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Laserist
Turkey4269 Posts
All in all, non-CM dota will never be "good" or "fun" for non-troll players in long term. All brackets have ruiners and most have players that are not deserved to be there. I believe we all see those players all the time. You can differentiate having a bad day from being actually significantly worse than the others. It appears in troll/smurf/etc.. forms. There is no option rather than CM to play actual dota. | ||
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makmeatt
2024 Posts
We'll see how it will go. I doubt any major changes will occur at this point, but if they actually shifted their ranking criteria from cs to hero damage (which I personally can hardly believe, but I haven't been around lately), then it means the system is still in the works and you can have your hopes. | ||
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TRAP[yoo]
Hungary6026 Posts
On October 03 2014 19:09 makmeatt wrote: I'd go as far as to wager that this whole ordeal with pushing players with an average score (however it is calculated, that's beside the point) being much higher than the average score of other players in their current 'bracket' (however it is defined) just to avoid newcomers being stomped in their first match and leaving the game discouraged has been pushed to an extreme. We'll see how it will go. I doubt any major changes will occur at this point, but if they actually shifted their ranking criteria from cs to hero damage (which I personally can hardly believe, but I haven't been around lately), then it means the system is still in the works and you can have your hopes. im pretty sure the hero damage thing got patched today. tbh zeus is a good hero and i dont mind people picking him BUT if you play matches in the 4-5k bracket you encounter alot of people that instalock zeus and their ranks are usually TBD. additionally they use wrath of god everytime its not on cd | ||
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Fenneth
Australia354 Posts
Whether you won or lost. That's IT. No other ingame factors should apply. Not hero damage, not k/d, not wards purchased, not game length, nothing else. The only goal of DotA is to win the game. Including all this extraneous crap punishes support players, promotes stat padding and generally fucks with the integrity of the rating system and the quality of games when people try to exploit it. | ||
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Ler
Germany543 Posts
On October 03 2014 15:03 wavebave wrote: even sephiroth is giving out the truth about u OP http://www.reddit.com/r/DotA2/comments/2i4gqa/5k_rmm_the_smurf_hell/ckyzpsl Well, this guy has lower solo MMR than I got. Additionally he also loses heavily when we are going to compare the competitive history. He also got denied by an IXDL Admin (Hektor) who wrote this about Sephiroth: I remember you from a matchmaking game where you ruined our lanes by picking last then refusing to go woods with quite good wood hero (naix) and then spaming quite a lot during that game. I think you are really unmannered guy and that you wont be a fit in this league. This time i will be forced to deny you, next time if you reapply i wish to see 3 supports from decent vouched players. Source: ixdl.net People playing in IXDL even made a topic and complain about his attention problems when it comes to casting games so he also got kicked as a caster (didnt even know such things are possible): Imo not only is this guy a horrible player who thinks too well of himself, he's also a horrible caster. Honestly, his commentary isn't even that good, and I don't really see why he's allowed to cast these games. It just brings kinda like a bad influence over the league when the casters are assholes(not being good is understandable, but there's a difference between being a poor caster and a moron). <8:29:14 PM> sephirothvg has been unvouched by HEKTOR. Source: ixdl.net I think enough has been said. | ||
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wavebave
12 Posts
 i just think you as a player should get a better attitude and stop pulling the gg card after FB or whatever. much respect to you if you manage to improve mentality wise, edit: ive now met 3 TBD zeus spammers since the patch, i guess they made it so you cant calibrate past 5k when they could've just made zeus not pickable by TBD players altogether. | ||
Firebolt145
Lalalaland34491 Posts
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Torte de Lini
Germany38463 Posts
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wavebave
12 Posts
if valve decided to look through statistics of how many tbd players actually picked zeus it'd probably be the most picked hero with a rate of 80% among tbds | ||
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Torte de Lini
Germany38463 Posts
On October 03 2014 21:55 wavebave wrote: how isnt it a viable solution? a 3k mmr player spamming zeus ulti whenever its off cd gives them 5k straight away if valve decided to look through statistics of how many tbd players actually picked zeus it'd probably be the most picked hero with a rate of 80% among tbds because you're removing choice from players. It's something you need to uphold and removing Zeus will choose have TBD abusers switch to another hero that is a near second. | ||
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FakeDeath
Malaysia6060 Posts
 It's getting obnoxious. | ||
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ahswtini
Northern Ireland22208 Posts
On October 03 2014 21:55 wavebave wrote: how isnt it a viable solution? a 3k mmr player spamming zeus ulti whenever its off cd gives them 5k straight away if valve decided to look through statistics of how many tbd players actually picked zeus it'd probably be the most picked hero with a rate of 80% among tbds Because it's a bandaid solution for a problem with the calibration system. When problem A causes symptom B, your aim should be to fix A, not B. | ||
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FiWiFaKi
Canada9859 Posts
Anyway, I don't think it's nearly as big of an issue as you make it out to be, but lower initial calibration would be a good change. | ||
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wavebave
12 Posts
On October 03 2014 23:17 Torte de Lini wrote: because you're removing choice from players. It's something you need to uphold and removing Zeus will choose have TBD abusers switch to another hero that is a near second. lmfao ok give me another hero that doesn't require skills but can get to at least one third of zeus' average hero dmg at the end of a match fucking god this forum is like playdota's dota chat section except ppl try to be serious here lolz | ||
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FiWiFaKi
Canada9859 Posts
It would be much wiser to address the root of the problem, and put less of a weighting on player damage on calibration matches. We don't have the exact formula for how calibration matches work, so it's quite difficult for us to offer recommendations to the system. | ||
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wavebave
12 Posts
just admit it, ur a zeus tbd spammer since u cant answer this, no need to run away from the truth brah User was warned for this post | ||
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Comeh
United States18918 Posts
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ahswtini
Northern Ireland22208 Posts
On October 04 2014 00:24 wavebave wrote: lmfao ok give me another hero that doesn't require skills but can get to at least one third of zeus' average hero dmg at the end of a match fucking god this forum is like playdota's dota chat section except ppl try to be serious here lolz Except you're the one who's brainless. The problem here is that getting high hero damage inflates your calibration rating. Not that zeus is the easiest hero to get a high hero damage with. Your solution is to attack the symptom of the problem, not the problem itself. Worse still you do it with a nuke and not with a precision strike. That's great, you still haven't fixed the root of the problem so the abusers will just move onto the next best hero for the job. | ||
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ahswtini
Northern Ireland22208 Posts
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Playguuu
United States926 Posts
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