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Clash of LR titans: Lorning vs The_Templar Game 1

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The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-22 12:36:15
September 21 2014 21:03 GMT
#1
Many of you read the previous series of this installment, The_Templar vs GumBa. All of the games were extremely varied and quite lengthy, the shortest one being a mere 17 minutes while the longest one stretched all the way to the 47 minute mark. Most of the games featured The_Templar attempting a strange strategy while GumBa played relatively normally and passively. While The_Templar had the momentum in the second half of the series, starting with a successful BC play on Nimbus, he was unable to close it out, losing game 7 in a late game ZvP to archons and void rays.

To him, Lorning was a completely different player. He had studied the fine, precise playstyle of the top korean professional players, as well as prime players. He knew where to aggressively attempt to take an edge in the early and mid games. More importantly, he was a protoss player.

Could The_Templar manage to adjust to this completely different playstyle or would he fall apart in quick and easy games?


+ Show Spoiler +
Oh, by the way, the first map was The Shattered Temple.
The_Templar immediately expressed his disgust in having to play a mirror matchup, which he had not done in the previous series.

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The_Templar pylon scouted and announced they were not in close positions. Lorning took that to mean that they had to be in cross positions so he scouted there first and got irritated when The_Templar was not there.

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Look at the cybernetics core timings.


Lorning decided this was, in fact, 2011, and he busted out the good old 4 gate.

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Wtf, chronoboost on nexus, you're doing it wrong.


The_Templar was opening blink or something. He also got two sentries because he mined too much gas.

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A mothership core makes it into The_Templar's base!

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Clearly mothership cores are the counter to blink. Build order win.


One of the sentries is permanently scarred by the sight of the mothership core and goes into hiding.

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"Come out, Mr. Senterie." "No… no… I've seen things far too horrible in this world. I can't go back."


Meanwhile, 4 gateways turn out to be more than 2 gateways.

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1 force field is more than 0 though.


The_Templar warps in a stalker or something. Lorning retreats because stalkers are the counter to stalkers.

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After coordinating themselves, Lorning's stalkers go into The_Templar's main again to do a little dancing.

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The_Templar does not like dancing so he decides to commit murder. Lorning returns the favor and robots die on both sides.

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I guess that zealot died too.


One of the stalkers was trying to emanate mysterious blue energy so The_Templar killed it.

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Meanwhile, 4 gate robotics facility for Lorning. Good build.


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More robots die!

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Robots are hugging enemy robots and shooting them.


Both sides lose robots. However, mini-robots are mining more money for Lorning's team and Lorning has the ability to make more robots as well as huge armored robots. On the other hand, The_Templar's robots will soon be able to teleport which makes no sense.

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Where is that stalker warping FROM?


Lorning attacks using robots and zealous warriors from Aiur and The_Templar does not put his force fields down in time, so they manage to get into the base.

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Hey look it's Mr. Senterie!


The_Templar manages to hold somehow which doesn't actually make sense.

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Clearly Lorning used #TemplarMicro


However, Lorning still has way more so he crushes the base of The_Templar on the next wave.

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That was disappointing.


Lorning 4-gated and won.
NEXT!


+ Show Spoiler +
The_Templar race-picks after this. I think we can all see why.



Replay: http://www.ggtracker.com/matches/5450175

Bonus: + Show Spoiler +
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Clearly both of these players have GM level macro.


Game 2

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vult
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United States9400 Posts
September 21 2014 21:31 GMT
#2
LORNING 4GATE TOO STRONG
I used to play random, but for you I play very specifically.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
September 21 2014 21:38 GMT
#3
no respect for 4 gaters
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jakethesnake
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada4948 Posts
September 21 2014 21:41 GMT
#4
lorning won because of superior macro. you can tell because he built 1 more worker.
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FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10106 Posts
September 21 2014 21:51 GMT
#5
fagt i want to do this vs you. u sux. and back in the day i started a few good old LR threads myself.
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Yorbon
Profile Joined December 2011
Netherlands4272 Posts
September 21 2014 22:18 GMT
#6
As a diehard follower of this (and the last) series i will root for templar until he gets his bo7 win.

I believe.
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-21 22:22:33
September 21 2014 22:22 GMT
#7
On September 22 2014 07:18 Yorbon wrote:
As a diehard follower of this (and the last) series i will root for templar until he gets his bo7 win.

I believe.

After this one I've got 3 more chances
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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
September 21 2014 22:36 GMT
#8
were these streamed at all for your tournament thing or just going to be written up here?
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The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-21 23:42:43
September 21 2014 22:44 GMT
#9
On September 22 2014 07:36 Shellshock wrote:
were these streamed at all for your tournament thing or just going to be written up here?

They were streamed. Currently being uploaded to youtube.

Edit: I can't seem to upload them to youtube, but the twitch vod is here:
http://www.twitch.tv/thetempiar/b/570795494
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DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44079 Posts
September 22 2014 00:22 GMT
#10
Templar you need to start winning.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
September 22 2014 00:24 GMT
#11
On September 22 2014 09:22 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Templar you need to start winning.

I didn't realize he would be a cheeser, I was intending to play straight-up games against him >.>
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DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44079 Posts
September 22 2014 00:28 GMT
#12
On September 22 2014 09:24 The_Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 22 2014 09:22 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Templar you need to start winning.

I didn't realize he would be a cheeser, I was intending to play straight-up games against him >.>


That's why you proxy oracle/ dark templar in PvP :D
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
September 22 2014 04:26 GMT
#13
If lorning wins this series Prime>ST is official btw
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
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Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgica34432 Posts
September 22 2014 05:45 GMT
#14
Shattered Temple best map, never 4gate
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Charlie Sheens House51464 Posts
September 22 2014 07:33 GMT
#15
Don't think anyone can beat Batman. Well played master wayne :D
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GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
September 22 2014 10:27 GMT
#16
On September 22 2014 16:33 Pandemona wrote:
Don't think anyone can beat Batman. Well played master wayne :D

I beg to differ!
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
September 22 2014 11:59 GMT
#17
On September 22 2014 13:26 GumBa wrote:
If lorning wins this series Prime>ST is official btw

I'm not a ST fan though...
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