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Calgary25967 Posts
Personal
I got married in November and my wife applied for immigration to Canada in December. At that time, the Canadian Immigration website said it would take 14 months for approval. I set an expectation of Christmas 2014 and a best case of August 2014. This Tuesday her status on the immigration website changed to “Decision Made”! Unfortunately, we are still waiting for the mailed documents to let us know if that’s a good decision or a bad decision. Fingers crossed!
Frozen Pawn
I finally set up my corporation. It was pretty painless, about an hour online, $200 and another required $24.69 to make sure no one had stolen my company name. Coagulation hates the name but I really like it. Frozen touches on “Chill”, Canada, and Blizzard’s influences on my gaming and my life. Pawn represents my love and respect of chess, is the shortest piece (hi!) and starts as the weakest piece but can change into almost any other stronger piece after completing its journey.
Coagulation is working on different logos. I won’t say who likes which until we hear your feedback.
Poll: Which concept (not exact drawing) do you like best?#1 (61) 32% #2 (75) 40% #3 (53) 28% 189 total votes Your vote: Which concept (not exact drawing) do you like best? (Vote): #1
(Vote): #2
(Vote): #3
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The bank asked about 5 times if I am a pawn shop. I’ve banked with the same bank for 25 years – since 1989. I have my chequing account there, a mortgage, all my investments, and two credit cards. After two 1-hour meetings trying to explain what the business was, I got a phone call requesting another 1-hour meeting. I had to listen to the guy try to explain what Magic: The Gathering was on the phone to someone for about 20 minutes. I went to a competitor and got a business account open in 30 minutes. Pretty frustrating.
Cards & Graphics
Coagulation is constantly tweaking the card layouts. The latest feedback was that the numbers were too small, and people were getting confused about which numbers meant what (Despite me saying again and again “The bottle caps are green, matching the green number!“) Coag added some icons and shifted stuff around, so here’s where we are now:
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/NI1sqdF.png)
Coagulation has stepped up his game even more. His new art sometimes has a different style than the older stuff, which I think is amazing. If you go through the cards it seems like there were multiple artists, but it’s just one amazingly talented guy with multiple art styles.
I’ve picked some random cards that are my favourites:
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/arPglfC.png)
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Testing
Coagulation finally got a deck in his hands (after we paid for emergency overnight shipping so they were available for his kegger lol) and got to test. Getting feedback and a new perspective from new players are invaluable. Since then I’ve really focused on simplifying the game again and again. If you compare the current revision of 15a versus revision 1, it is pretty hilarious how much the game has been simplified. And even still, there’s more to cut and more to simplify.
I was at a bachelor party over the weekend and managed to get two games in with 5 people each time. Both games went about 75 minutes and people drank on average 2.5 – 3.5 beers. I’m happy with where that sits now and won’t be making any major rule changes any more. As always, the feedback was very accurate and I’m going through making the changes now.
Website
sob3k is helping us plan for the website launch. Currently I have http://www.manaspirits.com (the game’s name) and http://www.thedrunkgetdrunker.com (the game’s slogan ^^ which will just be a redirect). As usual, I gave Coagulation a terrible .doc showing what I thought would work using rectangles, and a couple hours later he sent back this:
![[image loading]](http://imgur.com/TWXkKY5.png)
I think that looks so badass. I think I sent 3 gushing emails about it haha.
Schedule
I think rev.16 will be the final Alpha revision, which is one more revision away. With that done, I will print one last Alpha deck for graphic and balance reviews. I’m hoping to have that done by the end of September. This will let us launch the Kickstarter campaign and move into Beta in November. I still foresee challenges with rule tweaking, balancing, box and instruction design, etc. So I’m putting a pessimistic target to have the game shipping by October 2015. Of course, the earlier, the better, but having a career in projects has taught me to always expect the worst and to under-commit and over-deliver. I’ve also seen on this project that finishing the first 90% of each task seems to take half the effort of finalizing the last 10%. Hopefully we stay strong!
 
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hmm so you cheated on TL with a gurl that you "married"? That explains your inactivity :/
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Chill, I gotta say that this is so fucking awesome
Keep the updates coming!
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looks great! those are some sick pictures, and I love the banner.
yea banks can be fun like that. it depends on what accountant you get, too.
logos:
#2 pawn logo looks best, it's clean. needs some refinement, but imo it's the best.
#3 is pretty ok, but looks like something is missing (needs something in the background).
#1 has too many "serifs" on the shield (or they're going out at weird angles/shapes), and is probably a bit too wide. it would look better if it had some texture on the background shield.
card frame:
at the bottom, switch the colors of the blue crossed swords vs red skull on a shield. usually you'd wan't to make offense red and defense blue? the skull would look pretty nice in blue, especially with the frame. I might be wrong about the meanings of those 2 icons since I forgot some of the rules/stuff from the previous blogs.
ps: I agree with Coag, I would name it something else if it was my company. xD
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Calgary25967 Posts
On July 25 2014 10:13 quirinus wrote:
card frame:
at the bottom, switch the colors of the blue crossed swords vs red skull on a shield. usually you'd wan't to make offense red and defense blue? the skull would look pretty nice in blue, especially with the frame. I might be wrong about the meanings of those 2 icons since I forgot some of the rules/stuff from the previous blogs.
Good point. We are making this change right now haha  Thanks!
ps: I agree with Coag, I would name it something else if it was my company. xD
Thanks for nothing I mean!!!!! 
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Chill, this does look awesome! And as a person who loves board games/card games, I'll support this even if drinking isn't really a thing in my friend group. Although, who knows, maybe it'll become a thing afterwards, hahaha.
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Frozen is also related to Coagulation... so, there's that!
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I don't like the name much - but I don't hate it either. I would imagine a hobby shop being called The Frozen Pawn, or a pub.
I really dislike the first two logos because it feels like I have to read it rather than just look at it. If you must, FP and surround it by your logo would be cooler, or making the text smaller and the logo much larger.
I would just not add any text at all and make a simple logo, but the 3rd one kind of looks "cheap".
The MANA SPIRITS logo is fucking awesome, very professional. I like the board layout, it looks intuitive, which is the most important thing in games. I agree with quirinus about the color change.
What bank did you use that gave you the run around? TD? I ask because I am thinking about starting a business in the near future, and it'll be my first time. I've used TD for my entire life - head shit about CIBC. I've actually heard good things about small guys like ATB or Candian Western Bank (seems like they take more risk in small bizz cuz they need more bizz than the big fish). Any insight would be nice, including how important credit score is.
Thanks.
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I didn't vote for any of the options because I like/dislike them all equally...
Coagulation is one of my all time favorite artists, love everything he does. Having said that, he's maybe not the best person to design a logo :D He is completely irreplaceable on all game related art. But can we get some concept logo ideas form other sources? <33
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On July 25 2014 11:22 Chill wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2014 10:13 quirinus wrote:
card frame:
at the bottom, switch the colors of the blue crossed swords vs red skull on a shield. usually you'd wan't to make offense red and defense blue? the skull would look pretty nice in blue, especially with the frame. I might be wrong about the meanings of those 2 icons since I forgot some of the rules/stuff from the previous blogs. Good point. We are making this change right now haha Thanks! Show nested quote +ps: I agree with Coag, I would name it something else if it was my company. xD Thanks for nothing I mean!!!!!
haha
I'd also maybe put the transparent shield thingy behind the swords/skull instead of in front of them (don't want it covering them, as they are the main feature, not the transparent shield), or even remove it. too much detail can be confusing/unclear sometimes.
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The logo getting the majority of votes will be difficult to work with in future branding. I highly suggest going with the idea behind the second or third logo idea for simplicity's sake. Go with something less busy and it will be easier to plug that logo in wherever you want to put it (advertisements, other websites, branding on swag) with just a color change while keeping a distinctive image that people will recognize easily.
But that's just my input, everything else looks great, glad you seem to be doing well on this. The number of revisions and how you've been working on it for as long as you have are amazing. Envious of your ability to keep it up. Good job, dude, keep it up!
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That looks really awesome. I remember Chill from back when I first came around to Teamliquid in 2009
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Good luck with the visa. I hope that logos 1/3 don't win despite getting the most votes. People are voting on which graphics they like the most not which one will work the best as a logo. I love the name Frozen Pawn is great.
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On July 25 2014 23:29 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
Good luck with the visa. I hope that logos 1/3 don't win despite getting the most votes. People are voting on which graphics they like the most not which one will work the best as a logo. I love the name Frozen Pawn is great.
Yeah. 2 is by far the best for a logo. 1/3 are good designs / concepts but simply wouldnt work as a logo persay.
Also 75 minutes seems rather long for a drinking game, i don't know if i'd want to invest that much time into something if i was drinking with friends. I would have said 30 minutes was the optimal time. Also 2.5 - 3.5 beers is far to small an amount of alcohol.
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Agree with Nazgul.
Can't wait to play this some day.
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On July 25 2014 23:29 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
Good luck with the visa. I hope that logos 1/3 don't win despite getting the most votes. People are voting on which graphics they like the most not which one will work the best as a logo. I love the name Frozen Pawn is great.
Agree... using one or three as a product logo would be terrible. I'm guessing a lot of people don't understand that a printed product logo is not the same as a website logo/banner.
Also, Chill, have you registered for a UPC yet?
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should pay a real artist... this is some deviant art level stuff.
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Hmm, I thought it was another 200 $ (400 total) to have a copy name instead of a number, should have incorporated with a name instead.
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28081 Posts
Game looks interesting
Also, where is your wife from?
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On July 25 2014 23:29 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
Good luck with the visa. I hope that logos 1/3 don't win despite getting the most votes. People are voting on which graphics they like the most not which one will work the best as a logo. I love the name Frozen Pawn is great.
3 is a fine logo by silhouette and concept. Removing the overly detailed texture and simplifying the colors and it's as effective a logo as 2 in my opinion. I like using negative space as much as the next guy but I think condensing the logo to strictly positive space can be effective as well. I think 1 is the least useful logo by far.
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The second logo is probably the best for your logo even if it is a bit generic. I don't think the third one can work at all. The second logo probably also needs the color redone. I think something based more around black/less with the blue would be more visually appealing.
Also, best of luck!
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Belgium9945 Posts
Nice update.
I think all 3 of the logos aren't good enough yet, tbh. The second one is the only one that's easily scalable and remains recognizable, you def want more of a vector style than anything with too many textures/images.
The problem with the 2nd one is that while it serves it's function, it's not so "memorable". It won't jump out as much in a line of boardgame designer logos since the pawn shape in itself is so standard.
What about this: You let the pawn be slightly tilted to the side as if its tipping over, don't overdo the texturing, make it look a bit water/glasslike, but still have the water freezing over the edge going vertically down opposed to the diagonal pawn. The lack of symmetry would remove some of the visual clarity, but would make it stand out more. Just my 2 cents.
I like all the other art though.
Edit: Almost forgot. Congrats on getting married.
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I really like the banner art and quite like the name Frozen Pawn as well. I also voted on concept art #1 initially, though I thought about it again and I'm liking #2 more now. Simple design that doesn't make it look overly complex and difficult to learn at a glance. After reading the above couple posts I would agree that it could still use some re-working and touching up. But I would still prefer it over the other two.
If there was one thing I would criticize it would be that the "A competitive drinking game of epic proportions" subheader in the banner sounds really cliche and cheesy to me. The term 'epic' is just so overused everywhere (often combo'd with 'proportions' as well) in terms of movies/frequent conversation if you have nerdy friends/games and whenever I read it anywhere I'm just like "oh really, you don't say?..." I definitely like the designation as a competitive drinking game because that's definitely an eye catcher, but yeah. I don't know what would be better, but just my 2 cents.
gl with your wife's visa!
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Calgary25967 Posts
On July 26 2014 03:47 musai wrote:
Hmm, I thought it was another 200 $ (400 total) to have a copy name instead of a number, should have incorporated with a name instead.
I did incorporate with a name. It's still $200 for federal registration - you just have to run a NUANS name search first.
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Calgary25967 Posts
On July 26 2014 03:59 TheEmulator wrote:Game looks interesting Also, where is your wife from?
Korea!
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Wow, the concept art looks awesome.
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Congrats on everything! The game is looking really good, thanks for the updates.
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United States2095 Posts
Very cool Chill. The art looks really amazing, and I like the name Frozen Pawn. I can't wait to see where this goes and I hope it works out well for ya
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I have to admit I thought this blog was going to be about a pawn shop.
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I like the name. It's not too fanciful, while also being recognisable.
As for the logos I think I like the 3rd most. Definitely not the 1st as it seems too cluttered, it removes a lot from the "pawn" idea and is really distracting. The "forms" (I have no idea what they're called) surrounding the pawn make the logo more generic.
I like the 3rd logo's idea of having icy pikes hanging from the edges, to give the idea of "frozen", and the outline works better to give the logo a recognisable shape than the color scheme of the 2nd one. On the other hand, it's true that it may be more easily "lost" if you put it amongst other stuff, especially as a logo. Maybe a background, more discreet than on the 2nd one so that the pawn itself remains the focal point, behind it to give it a bigger "shape" (like the rectangle) would help?
So you're planning on around 2015 for production... I guess I could just look at the list of your blogs and the dates for this, but for perspective, how long have you been working on this project? Must have been almost 2 years or something already?
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Calgary25967 Posts
On July 27 2014 19:22 Alaric wrote:
I like the name. It's not too fanciful, while also being recognisable.
As for the logos I think I like the 3rd most. Definitely not the 1st as it seems too cluttered, it removes a lot from the "pawn" idea and is really distracting. The "forms" (I have no idea what they're called) surrounding the pawn make the logo more generic.
I like the 3rd logo's idea of having icy pikes hanging from the edges, to give the idea of "frozen", and the outline works better to give the logo a recognisable shape than the color scheme of the 2nd one. On the other hand, it's true that it may be more easily "lost" if you put it amongst other stuff, especially as a logo. Maybe a background, more discreet than on the 2nd one so that the pawn itself remains the focal point, behind it to give it a bigger "shape" (like the rectangle) would help?
So you're planning on around 2015 for production... I guess I could just look at the list of your blogs and the dates for this, but for perspective, how long have you been working on this project? Must have been almost 2 years or something already?
Yep, we started in October 2012, nearly 2 years ago. It's been off and on since then but fairly steady for the last couple months. We have a working alpha version that is completely functional right now.
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Netherlands19129 Posts
Frozen pawn is a great name, nice work. Sadly I really don't like any of the logo's. One and three are unworkable in my opinion since it's not about what looks best as a piece of artwork but what constitutes a good logo. It should be clean which these are not in my opinion. The 2nd option works with silhouette which I approve the most of but still too convoluted with other things going on around it. Keep it clean keep it simple I'd say and have the logo be a seperate design from the company name and slogan so you can use it as is and be recognisable on a non text basis.
Personally I settled on this (yeah yeah, I went with the name but I just really like how it sounds and rolls of the tongue with the double L going on, thought about it for several months but kept coming back to it ). These are old concept versions as you can see in the typo in the concept but it's the concept that counts:
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/5fw23Iw.jpg)
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/aUlte2r.jpg)
As for your bank/account story. I had the exact same thing. Been with a bank my whole life but opening a business account with a nightmare so I went to the one around the corner after two weeks of bullshit and got it done in 30 min like you said. Kinda sucks but ah well.
Coag still being a boss on art <3.
And I dunno if you checked your last blog after your last post but you had a question in it and I'll just quote my answer below.
On May 28 2014 18:29 Nyovne wrote:
Looks amazing, if you need some more alpha testing I've got a bunch of friends who are dying to try this over a couple of saturday nights. Absolutely splendid job Chill and that artwork is the shit from Coag, really well done. Got me hyped! Really glad to see this is still going since it's been a fun project from the start.
With regards to your legal question, I'd simply add on a box the age it's ment to be played from and slap on a disclaimer (on the box, not inside of it). You can always instruct retailers/yourself to not sell to people under the legal drinking age. Plus inside of the box you might add a folder which explain the hazards of drinking/instructs in responsible drinking. This way you'd a) make it very clear what the intended audience is, b) disclaim possible damages (be careful if you ship to other countries that this might not be possible to disclaim/different legal drinking ages), c) age restrictions on selling/retailing is prudent and shows consideration and dilligence on your part, d) adding a folder might be super over the top but it's a great final step to show that you are aware of the dangers and have warned the users by any reasonable means at your disposal.
Offcourse I'd add another folder on how to mix some awesome special mana drinks (potions/elixers) for this game! :D With a conversion chart offcourse, say 4 drinks (beer ounces wise) can be replaced by one drink: demonblood elixer (create some crazy mix drink). Fun stuff to add some spice to the "drinks" aspect of the game!
edit: I really like the name the more I see it. Original, clean and easily recognisable. Now you need that in your logo!
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Man, that looks great Blake. Congrats on the marriage! As if you don't have enough to do, you should make a version for more serious drinking ;] Totally down for testing it if you need more people and I agree wholeheartedly with what Kris said. Looking forward to getting it on Kickstarter.
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Calgary25967 Posts
Thanks Nyovne for the advice - really really appreciated.
Once we get the website up it will ask for people to sign up to the mailing list as well as for signups for beta testing. I'll obviously post here once it's up
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Netherlands19129 Posts
No prob, I love this shit you've got going on so want to see it succeed! And we need to play this sometime Scott, rawrrrrr. <3
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If you end up using #1 I recommend making it smaller. Cut away some of the excess on the outside and bring the ribbon thing that Frozen Pawn is written on into the middle of the actual picture so it is curving inside the shield shape.
Honestly, if you are using this for a logo like one that will go on cards, webpages, etc. just going for #3 seems best since it needs to be relatively small without messing up its graphics.
Instead maybe use #1 for something else like something people click on in emails to go to your site since that being attractive should make people more enticed to see what its about.
Good luck Chill!
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chill likes #3
I like #1
everyone else likes #2
sounds about right.
obligatory pic
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/xSHmdtsl.jpg)
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That dragon card should have some sort of special rule:
"May enter the playing field at any time but unable to actually do anything until the 7th expansion is released."
Also, name it Drogon.
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how are the durability of the cards?
I ask this because when drinking because "party foul"
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this one looks more like a drogon imo.
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/z7tmTFml.jpg)
On August 01 2014 07:04 StorrZerg wrote:
how are the durability of the cards?
I ask this because when drinking because "party foul"
mine are holding out surprisingly well although I haven't shared a drink with any yet.
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Netherlands19129 Posts
Black dragon looks amazing! Not a fan of the first one (too generic perhaps, black one art has a whole atmosphere and feel to it. really like it).
Can't wait for this shit. So cool :D.
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Calgary25967 Posts
On August 01 2014 07:04 StorrZerg wrote:
how are the durability of the cards?
I ask this because when drinking because "party foul"
Pretty good actually. I would still recommend people put them in sleeves but I think youd be fine spilling a few drinks on them.
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Netherlands19129 Posts
More ornate that I expected. Like them though! Are your cards going to be pressed or printed? Pressed is alot more expensive relatively but with all the compound colouring going on (expecially on the front but now with the sphere on the back as well) it might be a desireable step with regards to product quality. Can't speculate on the effects on production/product cost though.
Anyway, how many sphere/backcolours will you be using? Since the yellow/orange/white are all pretty close together. Not that I mind, not at all but just curious why these and not the typical different colours like green/black/white/red etc or whatever differents parts of the colour pie you want.
The more I see of this the more I like it. Especially the very different artstyles on the front are so cool. Personally I'm a sucker for the heavy saturation versions but that's just me. Seeing all the very different styles is just sick ;D. Great job Coag!
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I never knew Science Vessels could be so good at art! Wonderful job Coag
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On August 01 2014 19:14 Nyovne wrote:
More ornate that I expected. Like them though! Are your cards going to be pressed or printed? Pressed is alot more expensive relatively but with all the compound colouring going on (expecially on the front but now with the sphere on the back as well) it might be a desireable step with regards to product quality. Can't speculate on the effects on production/product cost though.
Anyway, how many sphere/backcolours will you be using? Since the yellow/orange/white are all pretty close together. Not that I mind, not at all but just curious why these and not the typical different colours like green/black/white/red etc or whatever differents parts of the colour pie you want.
The more I see of this the more I like it. Especially the very different artstyles on the front are so cool. Personally I'm a sucker for the heavy saturation versions but that's just me. Seeing all the very different styles is just sick ;D. Great job Coag!
the color scheme for the back of the cards is bronze silver and gold. we went with that cause its already a pretty well established value system and we seen it lined up with how many card backs we needed. Im working on separating the color levels more to give each one a more distinct metallic look.
not sure about the print or press.
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On August 02 2014 01:54 Coagulation wrote:Show nested quote +On August 01 2014 19:14 Nyovne wrote:
More ornate that I expected. Like them though! Are your cards going to be pressed or printed? Pressed is alot more expensive relatively but with all the compound colouring going on (expecially on the front but now with the sphere on the back as well) it might be a desireable step with regards to product quality. Can't speculate on the effects on production/product cost though.
Anyway, how many sphere/backcolours will you be using? Since the yellow/orange/white are all pretty close together. Not that I mind, not at all but just curious why these and not the typical different colours like green/black/white/red etc or whatever differents parts of the colour pie you want.
The more I see of this the more I like it. Especially the very different artstyles on the front are so cool. Personally I'm a sucker for the heavy saturation versions but that's just me. Seeing all the very different styles is just sick ;D. Great job Coag! the color scheme for the back of the cards is bronze silver and gold. we went with that cause its already a pretty well established value system and we seen it lined up with how many card backs we needed. Im working on separating the color levels more to give each one a more distinct metallic look. not sure about the print or press.
You can always do a color separation process (depends on what program you're doing the designs) and have a 3 color separation, and apply gold/metal/bronze inks for the pressed way. It will deliver superb quality (it depends on the print shop doing them) and it will look sexy as fuck.
You can always add special coating or what not in some posts (sometimes called SPOT UV) to give the cards some more detail or just that unique look.
regarding to the logo:
I'd start stripping down of effects the logo, take away all shadows, glows and everything, try to settle for something relatively simple, an image or pictogram and then go for a (maybe) custom font. You can always take one of those you just chose and model it after you needs. You have to make sure your logo scales down well, and I say this with all my heart, well is not "it looks alright" it NEEDS to look almost close to perfection in smaller sizes, even if you're removing the type for the sake of space.
If you guys want I could guide you through the printing process, I have 3 year experience on a Print Shop, I used to mess a lot with metalic inks and whatnot.
Cheers on the project and better wishes for life! .
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Netherlands19129 Posts
Funkie you god damn sexy as hell bitch <3.
And bronze silver gold would be great! Needs the metallic though and press4life. Figuring out the press colour codes after having decided on what it should look like on PC is a huge bitch though haha. Fuck I hated that when I was designing my housestyle ;d.
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Zurich15314 Posts
So good to hear from you again Chill!
Good luck with the game, and you know wife, life, and all that.
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United States1654 Posts
Really nice work with the card game + art!
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Could you put one in the bottom right corner?
Another idea(though much harder I would imagine) is a cool thing where you look into the orb in the middle and see the logo in there. The 3rd logo would work best for this although it might need to be made smaller.
Just the first 2 ideas that popped in my head.
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putting it in a corner or over top of the gem doesnt work very well.
so this is what I have come up with
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/U2XmaqNl.jpg)
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/KJbbB53.png)
the colors change based on the card color type of back so it matches the card backs.
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Sweet shading.That looks epic!
edit: Although I would like to see what it looks like when seen together with the whole card back.
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sure
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/jBrC8v7l.jpg)
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/RoIAlZHl.jpg)
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On August 05 2014 05:47 Coagulation wrote:sure
I'd make some sort of combination of these two. Grey one is a bit too quiet for my taste whereas the golden one is too busy for a cardback. I'd try the grey version with golden mana spirits logo and golden gems. Looking very good though, keep it up!
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Holy shit guys all of this awesome. Also Coag thanks for including our Mafia buzzword "of epic proportions" :D Best of luck!
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Yeah great art overall. I see that you changed more of the card back than just the skull. It looks like these are made to fit on top of one another now.
If you don't mind me asking, how much time have you spent on art for this stuff? It comes out awesome fast. :o
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I would say somewhere north of a thousand hours so far.
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thx chalz
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/sfLNNT4l.jpg)
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siiiiick i was wondering what the art you were posting on omgus was all about, now i see!
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Orc Warlord looks like he would make a great bodyguard… and not much else. GJ!
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big update to logo
after chill sent me a hilarious yet helpful mspaint we worked this out.
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/NjH6Wubl.jpg)
still working on the text
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/29mLdb5l.jpg)
and finished this guy up
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Oh sweet!
Now I want to see the MSPaint he sent…
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Netherlands19129 Posts
Archers don't use crosbows wth! And isn't "drow" copyright protected by hasbro/wotc?
edit: Nvm it's OGL so np. The line seems very fuzzy. The closer you get to the specific conception of the Drow which WOTC has developed and marketed over the years, the closer you get to an infringement but "drow" isn't CPed or TMmed same as dark elves. But the way they have interpreted them is I guess. Meh.
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archers use crossbows.. ..dont they?
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This looks so awesome, great work!!
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On August 09 2014 02:21 Coagulation wrote:
archers use crossbows.. ..dont they?
most of them don't. it takes at least 30 sec. to reload one which makes it not very suitable if you're in the open field and need to shoot several times.
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Calgary25967 Posts
Don't worry, we talked about it and Arbalist sounds terrible as a card. We renamed the card to Hunter, which I think suits the expression on the card better.
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Netherlands19129 Posts
A really morose hunter with that art :D. Love the rain in the art. Arbalist sounds great to me but doesn't even fit remotely with the art so fully agree with you there.
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btw i'm not sure if you've already gone through this but it says "DEFENSE" in the bottom right and "ATTACK" in the bottom left, I think "DEFEND" would be more appropriate or "OFFENSE". i can see the noun theme but "DEFENSE" sounds strange
good luck with the game! :D
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On August 11 2014 18:25 Blisse wrote:
btw i'm not sure if you've already gone through this but it says "DEFENSE" in the bottom right and "ATTACK" in the bottom left, I think "DEFEND" would be more appropriate or "OFFENSE". i can see the noun theme but "DEFENSE" sounds strange
good luck with the game! :D
Yugioh style. "attack points and defense points" sounds better than "offense points and defense points" or "attack points and defend points."
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On August 11 2014 20:50 -Kaiser- wrote:Show nested quote +On August 11 2014 18:25 Blisse wrote:
btw i'm not sure if you've already gone through this but it says "DEFENSE" in the bottom right and "ATTACK" in the bottom left, I think "DEFEND" would be more appropriate or "OFFENSE". i can see the noun theme but "DEFENSE" sounds strange
good luck with the game! :D Yugioh style. "attack points and defense points" sounds better than "offense points and defense points" or "attack points and defend points."
Agreed.
Great art as always
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I'm gonna spread the word about the supersecretundergroundproject that Frozen Pawn is working on at GenCon this year. Get you guys primed for release next GenCon.
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BUMP
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Calgary25967 Posts
On August 15 2014 15:00 Coagulation wrote:BUMP
Whoa how come you're showing them first? haha
Looks great
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On August 15 2014 21:36 Chill wrote:Whoa how come you're showing them first? haha Looks great
Looks awesome
And he's showing us first because why not?
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this is one of my favs so far.
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More awesome art!
Any eta on the beta?? Can't wait for the release!
Also, that ninja edit in your girl blog Chill haha. Congrats by the way!
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I think we are shooting for the first beta decks in another month or so
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Sorry was too busy staring at the awesomeness for two days… those are… nvm back to staring.
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That elf is taking a poo.
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Any updates?
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Calgary25967 Posts
On September 29 2014 10:18 emperorchampion wrote:Any updates?
I just got back from my honeymoon today. Will figure out where things are this week and probably post an update next week.
We ordered the cards before I left (~Sept 1st) so I have to check if they shipped to my work tomorrow. If not, I'm going to be pissed!
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ALLEYCAT BLUES49626 Posts
On August 16 2014 07:54 Coagulation wrote:
I'll be honest,dude looks like a decked out ninja turtle to me, not that I mind it :p
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