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HelpMeGetBetter
United States764 Posts
If they a good understanding of the game, the motivation, the dedication, and determination, how hard is it really? What else factors into a good player becoming a great player? Any feedback would be great, I think its a very under-discussed topic IMO.    | ||
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gg_hertzz
2152 Posts
Being one of the greatest? Almost impossible. | ||
The_Templar
your Country52797 Posts
What league are you? (probably masters if you're considering pro seriously) How much have you played? How long? How much free time do you have? Money? Creativity? Mechanical ability in other fields? Even then, it would be very difficult. I have most of those down and I'm nowhere near pro. | ||
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HelpMeGetBetter
United States764 Posts
On May 26 2014 10:12 gg_hertzz wrote: Being a pro? Very very hard. Being one of the greatest? Almost impossible. I meant being at least competitive in the scene. We could debate forever who the greatest ever is | ||
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HelpMeGetBetter
United States764 Posts
On May 26 2014 10:16 The_Templar wrote: I think it depends. In addition to what you've posted, there are a lot of different deciding factors in being a pro. What league are you? (probably masters if you're considering pro seriously) How much have you played? How long? How much free time do you have? Money? Creativity? Mechanical ability in other fields? Even then, it would be very difficult. I have most of those down and I'm nowhere near pro. I'm currently high diamond. Experience is probably my weak spot. I only began serious 1v1 in WoL beta. I've played other games in the past. The time I know is a big factor. I recall hearing the some pros play 40 games a day. I'm probably play half that during the week, of course I have more free time on weekends. Most current pros, if not all do not have another job, but I do. So I understand that aspect. Same thing with money, gotta pay the bills right...lol Not sure what you mean by mechanical ability in other fields. I know hand-eye coordination is a big key in this game, which I think I excel at. But anyway, I've always wondered if the stars aligned right, how serious of a push I could make. | ||
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goody153
44111 Posts
Just remember that ton of people spend the same time as pros yet does not improve. | ||
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Najda
United States3765 Posts
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Scarecrow
Korea (South)9172 Posts
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BreAKerTV
Taiwan1658 Posts
On May 26 2014 09:45 HelpMeGetBetter wrote: What kind of commitment goes into someone competing at the highest level? ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/85jgi0U.png) I remember checking who was at the top of the NA ladder a few weeks ago and it was Minigun (before surgery). His victory rate on ladder was almost 2 to 1. Kane, who is now here in Taiwan, has a better victory rate, but at the same time wasn't GM Rank 1 on the ladder. Bear in mind this is all NA ladder. EU and KR are much much more aggressive. | ||
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LuckyFool
United States9015 Posts
Some people it might take more than that, I came from a solid bw background so I jumped into sc2 without too much trouble as well. | ||
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Hryul
Austria2609 Posts
It's your ability to brush that all aside which determines if you continue or not. | ||
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LuckyFool
United States9015 Posts
You need to love the game/community, you should never play with the mindset of going pro one day, you have to just basically work on improving and going pro just sort of happens after a shitton of work and time. | ||
Destructicon
4713 Posts
Do you have a lot of free time to grind game after game for hours on end? Do you enjoy playing tons of games over and over? Do you easily shrug off losses as learning experiences and just keep on going? Are you a quick learner? Depending on how you answer those it will be relatively difficult or easy for you to go pro. The key though is consistent, dedicated practice over long hours. At least 8 hours per day of it for at least a year or 2. If you have the time, the passion and the dedication to do it then by all means go for it, keep in mind that your circumstances will also change in time. However do some real soul searching before you commit, if you think you enjoy the game but really you get incredibly frustrated by losses or cheeses or something then you might quickly burn out. If you don't have a lot of time in general realize that it will take far longer to reach pro level. And most importantly, keep in mind that everything is a sacrifice, by going pro you're sacrificing something else in your life, so be careful about that, decide if its worth it or not, if you can still keep some equilibrium between your social life, your health and your passion for the game. To be honest I don't think its impossible. We had Babyknight switch from DotA to SC2 a couple of years ago and he was really successful, however he said he practiced like 8-10 hours per day. If you really are passionate about it, have the time and the right mindset then go for it, the sky' the limit. | ||
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urboss
Austria1223 Posts
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Targe
United Kingdom14103 Posts
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Whole
United States6046 Posts
On January 25 2012 23:03 IdrA wrote: how do you think i got that chance to develop? i ignored school and didnt have a social life for 2 years in order to win a tournament and move to korea at 18 to sit in a house and play starcraft1 with 0 return for another 3 years huk played sc2 all day on a shitty computer during the beta when there was no money in it and did everything he could to get to korea and then spent a year+ practicing in a korean house. most a team pros dont make salaries in korea. none of the b teamers do, the bottom of the barrel doesnt get to live in the house, they just get the priviledge of playing with the team if theyre good enough for people to want to practice with them. you have to sacrifice pretty much everything while you're on your way up. koreans are better because hundreds of them are willing to do it, a handful of nonkoreans are. So pretty hard. Probably the hardest part is the grinding. Like IdrA said, are you willing to give up a year or two of your life with 0 results just to have a chance? And then after that, you still might not see any significant results for years after that? | ||
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PiGStarcraft
Australia987 Posts
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CecilSunkure
United States2829 Posts
To be one of the best at <insert thing here> isn't that hard, so long as you're the type of person that has self discipline to achieve what you desire. Edit: I'm saying this given the assumption that opportunity is given. Of course if you live in a third world country with no opportunity, then sure it's probably impossible. But we're all here browsing TL so... | ||
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Whole
United States6046 Posts
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knOxStarcraft
Canada422 Posts
On May 26 2014 22:52 CecilSunkure wrote: It's not as hard as people make it out to be. It takes dedication. To be the very best, I'm not sure, but to be a professional player isn't as hard as everyone makes it out to be. To be one of the best at <insert thing here> isn't that hard, so long as you're the type of person that has self discipline to achieve what you desire. Edit: I'm saying this given the assumption that opportunity is given. Of course if you live in a third world country with no opportunity, then sure it's probably impossible. But we're all here browsing TL so... How can you say it's not as hard as people make it out to be? Based on what information? I just play for fun and manage to stay at a high masters level, but I watch korean pros and realize just how incredibly far high masters level is from the real pros. to OP : If you've been playing since WoL beta and you're high diamond then don't try to go pro, just don't. Play for the fun of it in your free time and if you get to GM doing that then MAYBE think about putting serious time into the game if that's what you really want, but otherwise you're probably wasting your time. | ||
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