It seems like most of the issues that people are having with the change is the lack of some non-game-specific features not being present on both sites, so it's good to hear that efforts are being focused on bringing those into being! Otherwise, I'm completely fine with this change. Occasionally opening up another tab whenever I feel like looking over some DotA information really isn't much of a problem.

GeckoXp

Germany2016 Posts

May 12 2014 20:52 GMT

#63

On May 13 2014 05:44 EndingLife wrote:
We need more BW content. There are still a lot of us that follow SC:BW and there is still a decent pro-scene around.

Add content then, nobody is stopping you.

EndingLife

United States1602 Posts

May 12 2014 21:07 GMT

#64

Life > Games. Sad but true. Wish I could

Sufinsil

United States760 Posts

May 12 2014 21:18 GMT

#65

I like the idea separate front end pages and the same community backend. I like LiquidHearth a lot and like the initiative to have out early on. I can go there and see all HS related content. But for new guests and visitors they should still be able to join the community in other ways and see the Community and Other Game forums.

c0ldfusion

United States8293 Posts

May 12 2014 21:20 GMT

#66

I for one welcome this change. I don't follow Dota at all but I do follow Hearthstone. I thought it was a minor inconvenience when Hearthstone got its own site initially but now I've gotten used to it. So no big deal.

Zealos

United Kingdom3576 Posts

May 12 2014 21:21 GMT

#67

On May 13 2014 05:32 NKexquisite wrote:
This is a great change. I want 100% Starcraft content on TL.

Are you incapable of using filters so you see what you want, or is this just a weird attempt at a flame?

ILOVEWAR

Netherlands104 Posts

May 12 2014 21:49 GMT

#68

You should talk to the guys of Tweakers.net

Mind: Yes you should separate them.. more accesable to newcomers...
Heart: NO NO NO! I wanna I see all Dota & SC2 related news at one page! Once a fan always a fan!

Best solution...

Teamliquid shows all news... of every games that TL involvement
Liquid dota shows only dota and a "sc2" and heartstone separated website.
and a shared forum.

This way you can easily monitor which is most visited.

You might consider "tabs" and account customized website (Tweakers.net is a perfect example)

NKexquisite

United States911 Posts

May 12 2014 22:19 GMT

#69

On May 13 2014 06:21 Zealos wrote:

Show nested quote +

Are you incapable of using filters so you see what you want, or is this just a weird attempt at a flame?

Well, to answer you honestly. Dota and LoL are lame. Also, not all content is filtered properly, so it will be nice to have content I don't see as relevant be gone so it will enhance my user experience... After all, that's the point to this change.

Liquid`Nazgul

22427 Posts

May 12 2014 22:26 GMT

#70

On May 13 2014 02:45 Yacobs wrote:
TeamLiquid was unique with the previous format, now it loses some (a lot?) of that. I really appreciated the fact that there was a lot of different games being covered in one place with a focus on competitive gaming. I will still be a user of both sites most likely but I could easily see myself spending most of the time on the Dota site and at some point basically forgetting about TL.

It sounds to me like there was mostly a web design / organizational / interface issue with TL... why not simply have "filters" on the top that excludes games you don't want to see? Why did it necessitate a fragmented community?

The short explanation for this is that we can't make choices based on customization. Customization serves as added value for those who use it, but it can't dictate site-wide choices as the majority of our visitors simply don't use them.

Torpedo.Vegas

United States1890 Posts

May 12 2014 22:32 GMT

#71

What if there were big, colorful and thematically designed buttons on the side or top of the front page where first time users can immediately filter the site by one particular game. And if it is there first time perhaps have a pop-up with a link to account creation with an explanation of all the features and content for their particular game (and other games) TL has to offer. Top it off by having an account option to change the "theme" of the site between the particular game-related themes TL has (Dota, BW, SC2, Hearth). Like 4 sites in one without the need for 4 independent communities?

While I may not play all the games, regular exposure to other game content does help increase my understanding and appreciation of it. And it may encourage more cross game support on TL.

Just my 2 cents. I know you've gotten a lot of critical feedback, but you should know overall TL is still undeniably one of the top tier gaming communities. And not because of dumb luck, but because of the hard work we know you guys do behind the scenes. It is greatly appreciated.

Venomsflame

United States613 Posts

May 12 2014 23:31 GMT

#72

I don't like the change based on Nazgul's already stated reason as I like to read about both games and two sites is simply a little more of a hassle for me, but Nazgul's openness and communication on such a basic level has already put me on his side for this decision. So I'll be keeping up with both sites, and I hope the split goes well and the technical side isn't too complicated for TL to achieve its goals.

Shock710

Australia6097 Posts

May 13 2014 00:16 GMT

#73

I really like both the sites, like the new dota looks beautiful.
What i think isnt that great is the fact that i lost all my subscribed threads in dota and in hearthstone, hearthstone was less impactful because alot of the content hadnt been out yet.
But with dota boom had to refind all the threads and just skip out on some posts and go to the latest page because i couldnt remember where i was last.
Seeing how my account is linked across all the sites eg: my username and stuff, would it be possible to have all subscribed threads in the subscried threads??? i mean i guess it isnt too much trouble to open teamliqid subscribed threads, then liquiddota subscribed threads and then liquidhearth subscribed threads, but i check them regularly basically if im on the internet im on TL and when im not working or in school on the internet lol so i check for new posts like mintue-wise.

Though with ur post to include community across the sites im wondering if this will also mean community things will appear in all subscribed threads across the branches. Which would be definitely better tho still unconvinced on the site separations i assume blogs will remain divided?

In a perfect world i would have like TL to remain like it was before the split, BUT when u click on lets say general discussion dota in the TL sidebar it would take you to the page on liquiddota, that way i can still have all my subscribed threads in one place. People who only love dota can stay on liquiddota, and those (which is alot of users) who like multiple games still have teamliquid as their central hub.

Capped

United Kingdom7236 Posts

May 13 2014 01:50 GMT

#74

On May 13 2014 02:45 Capped wrote:
Kill TLLoL and i kill you.

Other then that, have a nice day

I didn't know u were actually taking a shit on tl lol when I posted this. Having just discovered it, I'm even more disgusted then I was when you jumped on the hearthstone train after ignoring the elephant in the room for so long. I'm really bitter about this.

Mistakes

United States1102 Posts

May 13 2014 03:44 GMT

#75

With the addition of LiquidDota and LiquidHearth, does this mean the Dota headlines will be taken off the TL front page?

inb4 filter button and settings saved when you log in.

Penecks

United States600 Posts

May 13 2014 03:58 GMT

#76

Guess it's a good time to be a LoL player, they can still follow that game and SC2 on the same site

sutoraiku

Canada70 Posts

May 13 2014 04:12 GMT

#77

On May 13 2014 00:23 Marou wrote:
As a fan of both SC2 and DotA2 i really enjoyed having the two games in one website, especially for the streams. I was able to see what are the good SC2 and DotA2 stream online at the same time.

This, i really liked to be able to see sc2, dota2 and hearthstone streams in one place, makes it a lot easier. Now i have to navigate through multiple website/tabs.

Falling

Canada11537 Posts

May 13 2014 04:27 GMT

#78

On May 13 2014 05:44 EndingLife wrote:
We need more BW content. There are still a lot of us that follow SC:BW and there is still a decent pro-scene around.

This is one of the strengths of this move, in my opinion. For SC BW, SC2, and Dota 2. When there wasn't much going on with SCBW, SC2 and Dota 2 were competing for frontpage space. Now that BW is on the upswing, three separate games competing for the front page means a lot of really quality articles get bumped out of the prime spots far too quickly.

With Liquid Dota2, their content won't be choked out by two separate SC games and for SCBW, we won't get murdered by the wave of content coming out of SC2 and Dota 2.

I understand the nuisance of visiting separate sites, but in this sense at least, I think it is better.

wei2coolman

United States60033 Posts

May 13 2014 04:28 GMT

#79

While I understand the reasoning for hiding and reducing LoL subforum after breaking up DotA and Hearthstone from the main site. I can't help but feel it's a giant dick slap to the staff that constantly contibuted to the LoL section of TL. Everyone made their peace that LoL wasn't going to be officially covered, nor a team was going to be picked up. But reduction of the LoL subsection was something no one really saw coming.

BigFan

TLADT24920 Posts

May 13 2014 04:38 GMT

#80

hmm while the reasoning makes sense, I think the fact that the community, media, blogs and other non-specific game related subforums are not being shared is a major concern. I know people who visit TL only for the dota2 section and I've recently started getting into dota2 due to it being there. I'm not sure how much I'll be visiting liquiddota or TL after this change. Guess time will tell lol.