EPTSharing some thoughts - Page 8
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AcrossFiveJulys
United States3612 Posts
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
 We have alot of people from all over the world able to add bits of information just like in Reddit thanks to SC2. I like the fact you push the games like DOTA and Hearthstone away from TL.net but not away from TL.net as they are still here you just have to click away, i like that. Clearing up the space for the core communities to grow in the sports section etc. However it is a catch 22 because the people who come for DOTA and Hearthstone now, will they forgot about the other threads on LiquidDota.net or LiquidHearthstone.net etc? Im not sure and only time will tell. But as you know alot of time goes into the other aspects of Team Liquid and i don't want the whole community to whittle down to a few for then everyone to eventually jump ship to Reddit  So this post did nothing apart from remind you to make the right decision whatever it is to keep the community alive here :D The SC2 community will always be alive here i guess but i want the general numbers of people here so i have people who can discuss sports with me :D | ||
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3FFA
United States3931 Posts
 Also, thank you for thinking through all of these decisions and also maintaining a high level of communication so others easily understand the reasoning behind your ultimate decision. | ||
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figq
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Djzapz
Canada10681 Posts
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Ender985
Spain910 Posts
Edit: Speaking of "Other games", why is it that there is a Diablo III subforum in that section but it does not show in the left bar? | ||
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RobX
Sweden14 Posts
Drawn here like many others by SC2 beta but "discovered" other games like DOTA through reading articles and tournament report. (Not to mention Hotbid's excellent interviews). I've got a simple idea to maybe make more people happy: Just make the filters in reverse. Without doing anything it shows just SC2/BW content but add buttons for "show news/featured articles from our sister sites". Should be possible, right? | ||
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yido
United States350 Posts
However, people seem to be a bit more mild on their views and respect moba better these days. On the plus side they get to have front page stuff about their interests. Strangely enough, I find myself playing dota and visiting liquiddota after the split more than I've ever had before. | ||
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bluegarfield
Singapore1128 Posts
1/ People are resistant to changes: not pointing finger at anyone here, because I do feel the same. After 3 years of the old TL.net, a sudden change just make things feel uncomfortable. However, I do see some positive things in this change and willing to wait for a while to see if the overall result is good or bad. 2/ All the contents are still just a few clicks away, as you can just click on the liquiddota link top right to access. It just doesnt appear right in front of you eyes on the front page, but this makes things much cleaning and less confusing when there are so many information about different games/leagues appear 3/ I like the separate calendar/liquidpedia/event tracker as it helps me following the scene much more easier. But I also like a notification/calendar highlights to big events of the other games so I don't miss out when I don't check the site often. With the old calendar, I could be checking Dota2 event and oh, there is SC2 WCS final coming up in 15mins, may be I would want to watch that. New separate calendar can't help this 4/ I have grown attached to TL.net because it's such an amazing community, with a lot of helpful and knowledgeable members in all areas, from games to tech to anime to basically everything. And I also think that the togetherness and willingness to help each other is what make TL community as amazing as today. So while separating the sites for the different games may be good, I am not sure how it affects other aspects of the site. I also like to randomly check out other games threads when bored (LoL, Diablo3, PoE, TLADT, etc), so this separated sites might reduce my chance of discovering random hidden gems on this site T__T Just a few things on top of my mind, may have more or not. Overall, thank you for communicate your thoughts and for everything else. Back to under my rock lurking again whewwww | ||
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MysteryMeat1
United States3292 Posts
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Aveng3r
United States2411 Posts
Ive only been posting on this site for about 2 years now but I have been visiting it since starcraft 2 came out.. I cant remember ever being upset or otherwise dissatisfied by the dota content that was brought to the site even though I have never played or watched the game (where by comparison I played a LOT of starcraft 2 and made it up to low masters at one point.) That said, for some reason I am happy that this TL is back to only starcraft. | ||
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vasculaR
Malaysia791 Posts
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Zooper31
United States5714 Posts
I stopped actively caring about SC2 about 2yrs ago and only watch finals of huge tournaments nowadays. I then moved to LoL and DotA and some Hearthstone. Interest in that has now faded and I just kinda have an interest in multiple things. CS:GO, SC2 customs, and barely some league. I come to TL nowadays for the threads I follow and the things that still peek my interests. I probably won't ever go to the Hearthstone site or the DotA2 site. I don't know if you guys are doing this because you think SC2 needs more help being promoted or because you don't like the community the non SC stuff has brought here or because you just have some vision for the site the users don't understand. Whatever it is I'm pretty sure most people who aren't huge SC fans right now, right this moment disagree, the community is what makes a place worth visiting, without us this site is nothing. TL might've started out as a StarCraft Community site but now it's developed into a Gaming Community site with a bigger focus on StarCraft and you guys need to accept that. If anything LoL needs a bigger portion of the site but we all know that's not going to happen when DotA2 is it's bigger competitor and is officially sponsored by TL with a team and everything. People accepted that, but then you're now going to make it even smaller and obscure and piss off even more people for no reason at all then you wanted the focus to be on SC. | ||
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plogamer
Canada3132 Posts
Can teamliquid.net and liquiddota.com share 'General Discussions' part of the forums? Meaning that posters in that forum from teamliquid.net and liquiddota.com can interact in the same place for non-SC2 and non-Dota2 content. This kind of cross-site interaction might be mutually beneficial for both scenes, especially from potential fans who play both games like me! Maybe spread that to sports section, politics section, what not. Basketball fans who also play respective game titles (SC2 and Dota2) would benefit from a larger pool of people for conversations, debates, discussions, etc. The heart of the Team Liquid community are the forums. The Liquid brand can branch out in all directions but remain connect to its roots. | ||
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Shootemup.
United States1044 Posts
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pigmanbear
Angola2010 Posts
Happy to have TeamLiquid back! Please keep it this way! | ||
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Darpa
Canada4413 Posts
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Makro
France16890 Posts
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DeadByDawn
United Kingdom476 Posts
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BeMannerDuPenner
Germany5638 Posts
On May 16 2014 15:14 Zooper31 wrote: + Show Spoiler + Disagree whole heartedly on the decision to reduce basically everything not StarCraft related. TL is more than a StarCraft site now and is a competitive gaming community. I stopped actively caring about SC2 about 2yrs ago and only watch finals of huge tournaments nowadays. I then moved to LoL and DotA and some Hearthstone. Interest in that has now faded and I just kinda have an interest in multiple things. CS:GO, SC2 customs, and barely some league. I come to TL nowadays for the threads I follow and the things that still peek my interests. I probably won't ever go to the Hearthstone site or the DotA2 site. I don't know if you guys are doing this because you think SC2 needs more help being promoted or because you don't like the community the non SC stuff has brought here or because you just have some vision for the site the users don't understand. Whatever it is I'm pretty sure most people who aren't huge SC fans right now, right this moment disagree, the community is what makes a place worth visiting, without us this site is nothing. TL might've started out as a StarCraft Community site but now it's developed into a Gaming Community site with a bigger focus on StarCraft and you guys need to accept that. If anything LoL needs a bigger portion of the site but we all know that's not going to happen when DotA2 is it's bigger competitor and is officially sponsored by TL with a team and everything. People accepted that, but then you're now going to make it even smaller and obscure and piss off even more people for no reason at all then you wanted the focus to be on SC. pretty much agree with that dude. TL is my goto page for most things. im barely following sc2 anymore, somewhat follow dota but the overall community and moderation is whats keeping me here since 2004. i dont want to visit another website for dota even if its under the TL flag. i dont want my sports,movie,games boards get hurt cause the community gets split. if we could get shared forums or some kind of integration in the main TL site that would be cool. as it stands now for me it just has tonsa downsides. | ||
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