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Watch Twitch/DM on VLC/MPC(good for low-end users)

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dabom88
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States3483 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-22 21:49:06
March 09 2014 06:25 GMT
#1
Note: The instructions will mainly include examples of Twitch and Dailymotion channels, but the program also works for MLG.tv, Youtube Live, Justin.tv, Ustream, and Livestream.com. Reportedly, anyway. I've tested it for Twitch, Dailymotion, and MLG.tv.

Also note: Replace all forward slashes (/) in the directory links in this blog with backslashes, since backslashes still aren't recognized on Team Liquid for some reason.

My computer is terrible. It cannot play most modern AAA games. I can't even watch 720p streaming video on my browser from sites like Youtube and Twitch. On Firefox anyway. Sometimes I can get it working on Chrome, but often it too, slows down after a while. Apparently, Twitch/Youtube HD is pretty resource is intensive, as is Firefox.

I can, however, watch 720p video files on Media Player Classic with the Combined Community Codec Pack. Along with VLC (which I rarely use). And now, I've figured out way to watch 720p streams from Twitch on MPC/VLC.

It's a program called Livestreamer:
https://github.com/chrippa/livestreamer/releases

Instructions:
1. Download it and install it (I installed the .exe version).
2. Go to C:/Users/[USER]/AppData/Roaming\livestreamer
Note: [USER] Is your username. AppData is usually a Hidden Folder. You have to either reveal Hidden Folders, or just paste the above location into your directory and insert your username there.
3. Open livestreamerrc, which you can do with Notepad.
4. Delete the # in front of the player= you want to use.

For example, if you want to use VLC, delete the # in front of:
#player="C:/Program Files/VideoLAN/VLC/vlc.exe" --file-caching=5000


so that it just becomes:
player="C:/Program Files/VideoLAN/VLC/vlc.exe" --file-caching=5000


Make sure the VLC program is in the same location on your computer. Otherwise, edit the location in the Notepad to match the location on your computer.

Same with MPC (which is the one I use).

delete the # in front of:
#player="C:/Program Files/MPC/mpc-hc.exe"


And modify it to the correct location to turn it into:
player="C:/Program Files/Combined Community Codec Pack/MPC/mpc-hc.exe"


I would recommend making a shortcut to livestreamerrc if you want to change what Video Player you want to use.

Now to go the Run command on your computer. And type in livestreamer [STREAM URL] [QUALITY]

For example:
livestreamer twitch.tv/beyondthesummit best


"Best" will give you the best quality that's available. "Worst" will give you the worst quality available.

For Twitch, the qualities match with how Twitch labels their qualities: Source, High, Medium, Low, Mobile. Possibly more that I'm personally not too worried about.

For stuff like Daily Motion, it's 720p, 480p, 380p, and 240p.

Let's say best is 1080p, and like my computer, your computer can't handle 1080p regardless, since not only is the computer low-end, but your monitor only goes up to 900p. And you want to view it in 720p. For Twitch, you can type in:

livestreamer twitch.tv/beyondthesummit high


For Daily Motion, you would type in 720p. For example:
livestreamer http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xmehe4_millenium-tv_videogames 720p


For see the list of qualities available to a livestream, type into your command line
cmd /k livestreamer [STREAM URL]

(so same command, just nothing inserted into quality)

Doing so will bring up a list of qualities you can type in for QUALITY, and inputing the cmd /k in front of the command will prevent the Command Line from disappearing after executing the program so you can actually see the list of qualities available that you can input.

That's it. Mainly, I've been using it to finally be able to watch 720 streams. But apparently, it also helps with stream lags or something, since some Europeans are reportedly using it to deal with Twitch lag. Because Twitch is well-known to be laggy in various parts of Europe.

That's the main kinks I've managed to work out of Livestreamer to get it working consistently. Hopefully this helps people out who need it to get HD streams to work, like I did.

I guess this can be another addition to my "Tips to improve your browsing experience" series.

Auto-go to a Youtube Channel's Upload Page /Script: http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/444804-auto-go-to-a-youtube-channels-upload-page-script

Whitelisting by Channel on Youtube - GM/TM Script: http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=435906

How to get Twitch to play on SmartTVs via Serviio: http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=437509

Have Youtube go to your Subscription Uploads by Default: http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=397387

Stopping Blip.tv from auto-starting the next vid: http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=394291

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HolyExlxF
Profile Joined March 2011
United States256 Posts
March 09 2014 06:42 GMT
#2
Alternatively, you can use this nice script and just paste the output into VLC (Ctrl+N if it doesn't automatically work with Ctrl+V).
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Birdie
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
New Zealand4438 Posts
March 09 2014 07:16 GMT
#3
On March 09 2014 15:42 HolyExlxF wrote:
Alternatively, you can use this nice script and just paste the output into VLC (Ctrl+N if it doesn't automatically work with Ctrl+V).

This is nice, but it uses the frankfurt server. Any idea how I can change it to use the singapore server? Changing fra to sin or sin-backup doesn't work
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NeThZOR
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
South Africa7387 Posts
March 09 2014 10:26 GMT
#4
This is a really cool tip, thanks
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HolyExlxF
Profile Joined March 2011
United States256 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-09 18:57:32
March 09 2014 18:57 GMT
#5
On March 09 2014 16:16 Birdie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2014 15:42 HolyExlxF wrote:
Alternatively, you can use this nice script and just paste the output into VLC (Ctrl+N if it doesn't automatically work with Ctrl+V).

This is nice, but it uses the frankfurt server. Any idea how I can change it to use the singapore server? Changing fra to sin or sin-backup doesn't work


Yeah, it used to have an option to use R1CH's proxy, but I guess the scripter didn't think it was necessary anymore.

Sorry, bros
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Dingodile
Profile Joined December 2011
4139 Posts
March 09 2014 21:26 GMT
#6
if ads works then I'll give a try. I just want to support.
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HolyExlxF
Profile Joined March 2011
United States256 Posts
March 09 2014 22:47 GMT
#7
Unfortunately, this pulls the HLS stream directly from the streamer so the Twitch ad handler has no opportunity to load, ergo no ads.
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dabom88
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States3483 Posts
March 10 2014 02:42 GMT
#8
On March 10 2014 06:26 Dingodile wrote:
if ads works then I'll give a try. I just want to support.

On March 10 2014 07:47 HolyExlxF wrote:
Unfortunately, this pulls the HLS stream directly from the streamer so the Twitch ad handler has no opportunity to load, ergo no ads.


This, pretty much. However, if you want to support, you could probably do something like leave the stream running in the background on Low and Muted on Chrome or something to try and use the fewest resources possible.
You should not have to pay to watch the GSL, Proleague, or OSL at a reasonable time. That is not "fine" and it's BS to say otherwise. My sig since 2011. http://www.youtube.com/user/dabom88
minitelemaster
Profile Joined May 2011
United States95 Posts
March 10 2014 04:50 GMT
#9
Why does this method use less computer resources than just watching on twitch? Excited for this since my laptop starts to melt if I try to watch anything above 360p.
Bite my shiny metal @$$
dabom88
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States3483 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-10 05:30:27
March 10 2014 05:30 GMT
#10
On March 10 2014 13:50 minitelemaster wrote:
Why does this method use less computer resources than just watching on twitch? Excited for this since my laptop starts to melt if I try to watch anything above 360p.

I'm not knowledgeable enough to explain how computer resources are allocated. I just know that I can't consistently watch 720p without stuttering on my browser. But I can watch 720p videos on my media player.

If you can watch 720p video files on your media player, then you can watch 720p streams from Twitch on your Media Player with this program.

If I were to guess, it has to do with the fact that Flash is a very resource-intensive program. And internet browsers are pretty resource-intensive on lower-end computers as they are.

The question is, though, if your laptop can't handle 480p/Medium video on Twitch, can it handle 720p video files period?
You should not have to pay to watch the GSL, Proleague, or OSL at a reasonable time. That is not "fine" and it's BS to say otherwise. My sig since 2011. http://www.youtube.com/user/dabom88
minitelemaster
Profile Joined May 2011
United States95 Posts
March 10 2014 06:45 GMT
#11
Yes, my cpu can handle 720p. It's not limited by stuttering, just the cpu heats up too much and my laptop can't dissipate the heat fast enough. With less pressure on the cpu, I'm hoping it can stay cooler.
Bite my shiny metal @$$
dabom88
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States3483 Posts
March 10 2014 07:03 GMT
#12
On March 10 2014 15:45 minitelemaster wrote:
Yes, my cpu can handle 720p. It's not limited by stuttering, just the cpu heats up too much and my laptop can't dissipate the heat fast enough. With less pressure on the cpu, I'm hoping it can stay cooler.

I'm even less knowledgeable on heat management, so I can't tell you what the effects are going to be.
You should not have to pay to watch the GSL, Proleague, or OSL at a reasonable time. That is not "fine" and it's BS to say otherwise. My sig since 2011. http://www.youtube.com/user/dabom88
HolyExlxF
Profile Joined March 2011
United States256 Posts
March 10 2014 20:16 GMT
#13
In effect, this method allows the video to play through VLC or MPC and utilize better codecs that decode video with the GPU instead of the CPU. This is a far more efficient method and is much more friendly to low-power systems.
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dabom88
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States3483 Posts
March 10 2014 21:05 GMT
#14
On March 11 2014 05:16 HolyExlxF wrote:
In effect, this method allows the video to play through VLC or MPC and utilize better codecs that decode video with the GPU instead of the CPU. This is a far more efficient method and is much more friendly to low-power systems.

Ah, so that's how it works. Yeah, this pretty much.
You should not have to pay to watch the GSL, Proleague, or OSL at a reasonable time. That is not "fine" and it's BS to say otherwise. My sig since 2011. http://www.youtube.com/user/dabom88
minitelemaster
Profile Joined May 2011
United States95 Posts
March 11 2014 03:26 GMT
#15
Sounds good. I will give it a try when I can. Thanks for the post!
Bite my shiny metal @$$
Flaim
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany1 Post
May 23 2014 13:52 GMT
#16
could you make the cmd close by default when the player is closed? it's incredibly annoying for me to close it manually.
a simple "EXIT" in the cmd does the trick.

i'm asking because i'm using the firefox addon to open streams from there quickly and without this i have to move my mouse unnecessarily.

thanks in advance
LyrickCZE
Profile Joined June 2014
Czech Republic1 Post
June 28 2014 20:14 GMT
#17
It closes the cmd line for me once I close the VLC manually.

But I came to thank the OP, working really well for me.
Recently sold my gaming PC to save for the upcomin Haswell-E platform (I'm also rendering the 3D) and watching Twitch on this old laptop was driving me crazy.

Getting nice and smooth 720p streams now and as a bonus - I now can't even fall for the trap and open the chat.

Great stuff, thanks.
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-18 09:01:39
July 18 2014 09:01 GMT
#18
You can also type %APPDATA% into run to get to the appdata folder

Thanks for the info
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dabom88
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States3483 Posts
July 25 2014 06:45 GMT
#19
Huh, more and more people are helped. You're welcome.
You should not have to pay to watch the GSL, Proleague, or OSL at a reasonable time. That is not "fine" and it's BS to say otherwise. My sig since 2011. http://www.youtube.com/user/dabom88
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