On January 15 2014 03:21 Grovbolle wrote: I have multiple ideas as to how this tournament could be run. Including how to do map-specific stuff, scheduling, game resolvement etc. I however do wish we could keep it to somewhat Proleague like conditions with regards to teams/players.
Teams: There will be 8 teams (obviously) Each team will be custom named but keep a proleague-esque name. Examples/Names of my team: KT Prillan is a god Prillan is a god KHAN CJ Prillan is a god Prillan is a god Prime (You get the idea)
Schedule: Since we keep the names from the original teams, we can use the official proleague schedule, so we know who has to face who at any given point in time We can decide to start from round 2 or 3 depending on how much time coordination will take.
Maps: We use the maps as chosen by Kespa in the official matches, so if it's a CJ vs. KT match, we just look up the maps on liquipedia.
To make for more interesting series, we can ahead of time choose something like the following. Bel'Shir Vestige +2.5% for Protoss Frost +2.5% for Terran Star Station TE +2.5% for Zerg Yeonsu +1% for Protoss Outboxer +1% for Terran Sejong Research Station +1% for Zerg
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Match resolvement: Since we know the maps in advance, each team coach will submit a line-up consisting of 5 players before a predetermined timefrane, we can put rules on the lineups if we want. (at least 1 Z 1 T 1 P) (A player can play twice in the Ace match).
To resolve a match, we assume a BO1 and does a prediction in aligulac
Let's say CJ darkdwarf is playing KT Prillan is a god, then the CJ owner sends 5 RNG numbers, and the KT owner sends a "stay" or "switch" message to the admin. Let's say the CJ owner sent the following 5 numbers: 10 15 88 52 44
If the first match is Maru vs. herO and the KT owner sent "stay", we let Maru be the left player, and herO the right, Maru would win since 10 results in a Maru win. If the KT owner sent a "switch", we would have let herO be the left player and he would have won since 10 results in a herO win then.
If the match had been played on a +2.5% for Terran map, the percentages would change to
I don't get the point of the RNG thing. Can't the admin just do all the randomization? It is possible to cheat. For example, if you have 4 normal players and your opponent has 1 strong 3 weak, you jsut send all values around 50, and whether he stays or switches he loses.
On a side note do you think we should add player strategies?
You can do a cheese, safe build or greedy build. If both players do the same, there is no difference.
Safe build adds 10% over Cheese Cheese adds 10% over Greedy Greedy adds 3% over Safe
or something like that. Exact values can be worked out later.
On January 17 2014 17:09 Pangpootata wrote: I don't get the point of the RNG thing. Can't the admin just do all the randomization? It is possible to cheat. For example, if you have 4 normal players and your opponent has 1 strong 3 weak, you jsut send all values around 50, and whether he stays or switches he loses.
On a side note do you think we should add player strategies?
You can do a cheese, safe build or greedy build. If both players do the same, there is no difference.
Safe build adds 10% over Cheese Cheese adds 10% over Greedy Greedy adds 3% over Safe
or something like that. Exact values can be worked out later.
I think players strategies could make it too much stuff to manage smoothly.
On January 17 2014 02:08 Darkdwarf wrote: I think it sounds good. I think map imbalances would be interesting, as you suggest. How do we decide them, is the next question?
We just copy the maps that are used for the corresponding Proleague round. See below, that is the reason why I suggest we follow Proleague round 2 or round 3, so we just can copy their schedule and their maps.
CJ Prillan is a god vs Prime sucks but Prillan is god
On January 17 2014 02:08 Darkdwarf wrote: I think it sounds good. I think map imbalances would be interesting, as you suggest. How do we decide them, is the next question?
We just copy the maps that are used for the corresponding Proleague round. See below, that is the reason why I suggest we follow Proleague round 2 or round 3, so we just can copy their schedule and their maps.
CJ Prillan is a god vs Prime sucks but Prillan is god
On January 17 2014 02:08 Darkdwarf wrote: I think it sounds good. I think map imbalances would be interesting, as you suggest. How do we decide them, is the next question?
We just copy the maps that are used for the corresponding Proleague round. See below, that is the reason why I suggest we follow Proleague round 2 or round 3, so we just can copy their schedule and their maps.
CJ Prillan is a god vs Prime sucks but Prillan is god
On January 17 2014 02:08 Darkdwarf wrote: I think it sounds good. I think map imbalances would be interesting, as you suggest. How do we decide them, is the next question?
We just copy the maps that are used for the corresponding Proleague round. See below, that is the reason why I suggest we follow Proleague round 2 or round 3, so we just can copy their schedule and their maps.
CJ Prillan is a god vs Prime sucks but Prillan is god
* Games follow proleague schedule. * Maps follow proleague. * Go over map imbalances. * Teams and their names, connection to PL teams. * How the team draft will work. * Match procedures. * Sign-ups.
On January 21 2014 09:48 Darkdwarf wrote: Yes. What to include?
* Games follow proleague schedule. * Maps follow proleague. * Go over map imbalances. * Teams and their names, connection to PL teams. * How the team draft will work. * Match procedures. * Sign-ups.