doing the opposite. the issue was racialized in the op

edit: anyway, you misunderstand me and I don't want to argue about it with you, because I think you are a boor. go bother someone else

scypio

Poland2127 Posts

October 28 2013 16:30 GMT

#85

Sorry mate, you can no longer draw a line in the sand in Europe.

Imagine a bus carrying a bunch of people that can be easily associated with an ethnic group of your choice.

The bus is heading for your country.

Imagine that you know that one of the passengers is a dangerous criminal, violent thief who hates all those stupid Western values and wants to exploit and destroy them.

Could you turn that bus away? No... you would become a racist.

What if there were two such guys on the bus? No... you would become a racist.

Five of them? Nope... YWBaR..

Half of them? same... YWBaR.

You can not stand up and say "this is Europe man, you can't do X or Y here" because... YWBaR. Sorry... suck it up.

bartus88

Netherlands491 Posts

October 28 2013 16:36 GMT

#86

I think I understand what you mean OP. I assume Belgium, like my country, has a large number of people that descent from North-African/Middle-Eastern immigrants. From my personal experience, there are a lot (no seriously, a lot) more shitheads among these people than the other ethnic groups in my country. And I am not alone in this, there have several discussion on national tv about how there may be a problem with this group of people (the Ebru Umar incident being the latest prominent one).

However, I also know a few people who belong to this group that are great people. But still it can be hard not to become prejudice. What you need to do is not let this become gradually worse over time and keep judging people for the person they are, not their ethnicity.

Boblion

France8043 Posts

October 28 2013 16:41 GMT

#87

On October 29 2013 01:23 sam!zdat wrote:

Show nested quote +

doing the opposite. the issue was racialized in the op

edit: anyway, you misunderstand me and I don't want to argue about it with you, because I think you are a boor. go bother someone else

I can understand you perfectly. I have been there before. Kinda funny that you think that i'm the boor here when you are the one trying to spew your little Marxist lies (and it is not even orthodoxt Marxism) and prejudice when you have clearly no idea about the immigration policies in Europe.

Anyway it was always a moral issue dear Sam. You are missing the point, like the OP. And like a good lefty boy you are just trying to find some excuses for the scum lol.

sam!zdat

United States5559 Posts

October 28 2013 17:02 GMT

#88

On October 29 2013 01:41 Boblion wrote:
(and it is not even orthodoxt Marxism)

thank god i have bob to oppose my deviation

brb gonna go write my autocritique

dravernor

Netherlands6188 Posts

October 28 2013 17:19 GMT

#89

Everyone plays down racism. It is actually rampant, everywhere. People, for some reason, cannot seem to accept that people with other skin colours are part of the same species as them. I know my parents are racist at times and it drives me mental. Just because one or two people of a certain race have offended you or done something wrong, it doesnt make it okay to hate on everyone of that race. You have to give cultural differences a chance too. Most of this hate is borne of misunderstanding and a ignorance.
To the o.p I understand your anger, and I would be angry too, but being a racist asshole isn't going to do anything but make you an angsty, bad tempered person that no-one wants to be around. Try to find some understanding for their situation, even if they wrong you and our grandfather. Bad things happen, often, and not everyone is nice. As you can see. Try to accept that these individuals are not representative of their race.

MoltkeWarding

5195 Posts

October 28 2013 18:52 GMT

#90

As Lord Henry says in Dorian Gray, the only way to overcome temptation is to yield to it. Once you accept that you are a racist rather than struggle against it, life becomes much easier, and you allow your repressed feelings to rise into the intellect, where it can be placed under good moderation.

HULKAMANIA

United States1219 Posts

October 28 2013 22:47 GMT

#91

On October 29 2013 03:52 MoltkeWarding wrote:
As Lord Henry says in Dorian Gray, the only way to overcome temptation is to yield to it. Once you accept that you are a racist rather than struggle against it, life becomes much easier, and you allow your repressed feelings to rise into the intellect, where it can be placed under good moderation.

Precisely, in-group preference is a feature, not a bug.