EPTIts hard to not become racist - Page 3
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NeuroticPsychosis
United States322 Posts
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tomatriedes
New Zealand5356 Posts
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sam!zdat
United States5559 Posts
On October 25 2013 13:10 tomatriedes wrote: Slightly off-topic, but It's annoying to me that having a negative view of mass immigration automatically equates to racism in some people's minds. It's like prosperous western countries are supposed to accept unlimited immigration from developing countries no matter how many social problems this causes and anyone who objects in anyway is labeled a fascist by liberal academics (I'm a liberal myself on most issues but not on this one I guess). why do you think the countries allow the immigration | ||
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Djzapz
Canada10681 Posts
As a general rule, poor people are more likely to commit crimes. Immigrants are more likely to be poor because they have to deal with extra hardships in life (education, getting a job, racism itself, becoming part of the society). It's difficult for them. Now that doesn't justify their actions, obviously not, but that's the (basic) explanation from a sociological standpoint. Now presumably you have no animosity toward a foreigner of any description who's well integrated to the Belgian society, works like the rest of you and commits no crimes... It isn't racist to be weary of the difficulties of multiculturalism. Would you attack or despise a nice foreign guy because of his skin color? Do you believe he's inferior because somebody of his skin color has committed disgusting acts? It's not the skin color or the "race" or the ethnicity that's the problem, but the existence of this social class which is particularly prone to criminality. | ||
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hp.Shell
United States2527 Posts
On October 25 2013 12:37 Shebuha wrote: Please don't blame me for stealing from an 80 year old man and threatening to injure him more than I already have! ! It wasn't my fault! The society I was raised in sucked and I don't like doing work! Please, society, lift all responsibility for my actions and blame from me! makes sense 2 me Nature vs nurture ring a bell? | ||
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Shebuha
Canada1335 Posts
Yeah, it's a debate that no one knows the answer to, if that's what you mean. | ||
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Sejanus
Lithuania550 Posts
Tell me, why i shouldn't become a racist asshole? Not sure what it has to do with racism... first, there's no becomming racist, either you are one or not, depending on your beliefs. Racism is generally defined as actions, practices, or beliefs that consider the human species to be divided into races with shared traits, abilities, or qualities, such as personality, intellect, morality, or other cultural behavioral characteristics, and especially the belief that races can be ranked as inherently superior or inferior to others, or that members of different races should be treated differently From Wikipedia. So you believe those two assholes did what they did because they belong to a particular race, and also their whole race is inferior to yours? That was the reason for what they did? As simple as that? If you believe it then yes you are racist. Stupid, too. But I have a strong feeling you are not stupid, it's just that your understanding of what racism is is messed up by dumb internet bandwagon on reddit and such, who scream racism every time some says something bad about a non western people or culture. | ||
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aTnClouD
Italy2428 Posts
It's true that if you were raised in the exact environment as these criminals who robbed your grandfather you would act in the same exact way, but this doesn't mean anything other than the fact you have to be aware of how dangerous these individuals can be and how much their way of living and treating people is different from ours. | ||
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ZERG_RUSSIAN
10417 Posts
It's a joke, but it's the truth. | ||
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Sejanus
Lithuania550 Posts
It's true that if you were raised in the exact environment as these criminals who robbed your grandfather you would act in the same exact way No it's not true. Or rather not necessarily true. Genetics influence the way we act too, you know. | ||
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IgnE
United States7681 Posts
On October 25 2013 16:24 Sejanus wrote: Not sure what it has to do with racism... first, there's no becomming racist, either you are one or not, depending on your beliefs. From Wikipedia. So you believe those two assholes did what they did because they belong to a particular race, and also their whole race is inferior to yours? That was the reason for what they did? As simple as that? If you believe it then yes you are racist. Stupid, too. But I have a strong feeling you are not stupid, it's just that your understanding of what racism is is messed up by dumb internet bandwagon on reddit and such, who scream racism every time some says something bad about a non western people or culture. Is racism just the definition on wikipedia? As simple as that? If you believe it then yes you are racist. | ||
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papaz
Sweden4149 Posts
On October 25 2013 06:57 SupplyBlockedTV wrote: But if a crime happens here, it is 80% of the time committed by a individual of foreign origins. Apparently there must be something with their culture or education that dictates them that robbing old people is a good thing to do. Tell me, why i shouldn't become a racist asshole? So let me get this straight. People in Africa are taught by the community/parents/school that robbing old people is a good thing to do? And there is some statistics in Belgium showing that 80% of the people that commit crime is of foreign origin? And even if the statistics is correct your conclusion is that because they are from a place that is not as awesome as your contry seems to be it must be that in the rest of the world people are taught to rob old people? Seriously, how do you come up with all this nonsense? You are angry and sad and making false conclusions. If the person robbing your grandfather would be someone from Belgium you wouldn't make these false and sad conclusions you are making. | ||
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sc4k
United Kingdom5454 Posts
Sorry about your grandpa though, that's awful. | ||
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Maenander
Germany4926 Posts
On October 25 2013 17:23 Sejanus wrote: No it's not true. Or rather not necessarily true. Genetics influence the way we act too, you know. Genetics and the environment interact in complex ways. One such interaction is that if you look like you are from an ethnic minority, then you get treated differently by your environment. | ||
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JonIrenicus
Italy602 Posts
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JonIrenicus
Italy602 Posts
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teddyoojo
Germany22369 Posts
It's definitely not racism though. It's the same logic behind staying away from dangerous animals, because of a repeated history of violence towards humans. rofl | ||
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Sejanus
Lithuania550 Posts
Is racism just the definition on wikipedia? As simple as that? If you believe it then yes you are racist. Are you even trying to make sense? | ||
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ETisME
12621 Posts
you can blame the society for not screening the quality of immigration for example, but getting all angry at their nationality/skin color just don't make sense. would you feel better if they were of same skin color and are Belgium citizens? | ||
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SoSexy
Italy3725 Posts
On October 25 2013 19:32 JonIrenicus wrote: You should be happy that at least in Belgium I could bet justice works and what your father experienced could happen to anyone in this world... There in Italy you could commit any amount of murders, robbery, thievery you wish without ever going to jail.. If I just explained you what it would mean Justice in italy you would start crying and throwing your monitor by your inner rage on how things go wrong... One day I will explain you how things work, just to make you laugh a bit, histerically You're so right man...you're so right I would smile, if it weren't such a pathetic situation  | ||
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