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hypercube
Hungary2735 Posts
On October 25 2013 06:57 SupplyBlockedTV wrote: Tell me, why i shouldn't become a racist asshole? You can't become something you already are. Your anger is completely normal. Even wanting to physically hurt them. (Although for your own sake I hope you won't actually do anything about it.) But to think anyone but the idiots who did this should suffer is seriously fucked up. | ||
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Scarecrow
Korea (South)9172 Posts
On October 25 2013 07:01 HardlyNever wrote: I believe he means what we might call "middle eastern" in the united states. I.e. brown skin, dark hair. That is different from "sub-Saharan" african that we might call "african american" in the US. Pretty sure North African means North African (Algeria, Libya, Niger etc.) and just because they're black and live on the same continent, doesn't mean there's no difference... If they were middle eastern/arab I'm sure he'd use the term. | ||
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IgnE
United States7681 Posts
On October 25 2013 09:28 sam!zdat wrote: your country needs those people so you can exploit their labor. otherwise your economy would collapse. when you import an underclass, you import desperation, anomie, and crime No, man. They are just there to leech on the prosperity of the Belgian people. | ||
micronesia
United States24761 Posts
On October 25 2013 08:20 SupplyBlockedTV wrote: But yea, it pisses me off when people defend these kind of crimes by saying its just because they have no chances in this society. Even if that was true, nothing excuses physically harming an old man in his home. Also on the streets, i meet alot of hostility from these groups of people. I dont go to their country to claim entire neighborhoods and throw rocks at the police (yea that actually happens in belgium, police are threatening to go on a strike here after one of their colleagues got badly injured by a rock in a neighborhood that is labeled as a no-go zone (lawless)..) I can't speak for other people, but there is a difference between defending crimes and explaining crimes. Why do some people commit violent crimes, whereas others don't? Much of it is due to having an upbringing plagued with misfortune (or alternately a mental disorder which is not their fault in and of itself). Most terrorists who are willing to do any vile thing are not coming from a life of luxury and comfort. The same general logic applies to the people who commit horrible crimes like the one you described in the OP. Of course, this is just a general description, and can't be applied to every person or every violent crime. If you agree with the idea that socioeconomic disparity explains why some groups of people are more violent than others, think about why certain racial groups comprise certain social demographics more than others. The two explanations are either that it's inherent in their race (racist approach) or that there are historical factors playing a role, among many other complex reasons (the harder approach, yet the necessary one). | ||
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Zealos
United Kingdom3576 Posts
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sam!zdat
United States5559 Posts
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HardlyNever
United States1258 Posts
On October 25 2013 09:46 Scarecrow wrote: Pretty sure North African means North African (Algeria, Libya, Niger etc.) and just because they're black and live on the same continent, doesn't mean there's no difference... If they were middle eastern/arab I'm sure he'd use the term. They... aren't... black... You are basically arguing against yourself. I can't even fully understand what you are trying to say... *head explodes* | ||
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Kevin_Sorbo
Canada3217 Posts
On October 25 2013 10:25 IgnE wrote: No, man. They are just there to leech on the prosperity of the Belgian people. maybe they are fleeing their countries because of the regime? I hope you didnt write that seriously lol. edit: oh yeah and LOL guys, north africa is called maghreb. | ||
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sam!zdat
United States5559 Posts
On October 25 2013 10:53 HardlyNever wrote: They... aren't... black... You are basically arguing against yourself. I can't even fully understand what you are trying to say... *head explodes* there are north african muslims who look like what you would call "black" | ||
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HardlyNever
United States1258 Posts
On October 25 2013 10:58 sam!zdat wrote: there are north african muslims who look like what you would call "black" Are they? The term "north african" is a weird way of describing a phenotype. I thought the OP meant someone that looked like this : + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://cast.thirdage.com/files/originals/97866796.jpg) | ||
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sam!zdat
United States5559 Posts
edit: sort of "north-east" african i suppose, probably | ||
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Kevin_Sorbo
Canada3217 Posts
On October 25 2013 11:06 sam!zdat wrote: no that guy looks like an arab. there were a lot of north african muslims in my neighborhood in seattle, and they are "black" dude. what did fucking khadafi look like?? michael jordan??? | ||
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sam!zdat
United States5559 Posts
i can't really say about the people he is talking about, who knows. | ||
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HardlyNever
United States1258 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/dam/assets/111012124447-iran-puyan-mahmudian-story-top.jpg) I mean, if you really look closely you might be able to tell the difference, but at first glance probably not. Plus I think there are more brown skinned, dark haired ethnic groups in north africa besides Arab. Thus why both "north african" and "arab" are bad words at describing "race" in this context. Edit: Maybe OP can clarify. At this point I'm confused. When I read "north african" I genuinely thought of someone that looked like what I posted above. I know there are "black" people in north africa was well, I just thought of someone that looked "arab" first. | ||
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ninazerg
United States7291 Posts
On October 25 2013 06:58 MarlieChurphy wrote: north african? How is that different from other africans? I am serious, I didn't really know there was a difference. They were clearly Algerians, probably from Oran. On October 25 2013 06:57 SupplyBlockedTV wrote: Tell me, why i shouldn't become a racist asshole? Nobody said you couldn't. In fact, go ahead and try it out. See if it makes your life better or not. See if it makes you happy as a person, then do a follow-up blog to let us all know how good your life has become since becoming a racist. | ||
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IgnE
United States7681 Posts
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zev318
Canada4306 Posts
On October 25 2013 11:30 IgnE wrote: the real question is: why is OP feeling racist when his grandfather doesn't? you dont know, it never says in his post how his grandfather feels | ||
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SlayerS_BoxxY
United States64 Posts
Correlation does not equal causation. Done. | ||
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hp.Shell
United States2527 Posts
There is something wrong with profiling. It's rude and very disrespectful to profile based on what others of the same profile might do. Once again, don't hate the people. The world we live in is so fucked up and some people just can't deal with it, so they get money through other means. Peace. | ||
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Shebuha
Canada1335 Posts
On October 25 2013 12:27 hp.Shell wrote: Don't blame the people. Blame the society. Some people don't like the idea of wearing chains 8 hours a day. There are other ways to run the world than mass slavery. There is something wrong with profiling. It's rude and very disrespectful to profile based on what others of the same profile might do. Once again, don't hate the people. The world we live in is so fucked up and some people just can't deal with it, so they get money through other means. Peace. Please don't blame me for stealing from an 80 year old man and threatening to injure him more than I already have! ! It wasn't my fault! The society I was raised in sucked and I don't like doing work! Please, society, lift all responsibility for my actions and blame from me! makes sense 2 me | ||
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