Today 2 north-african looking individuals broke into my grandfathers home (he is older then 80 and even had a stroke a few years back). They threw him out of his bed (badly injuring his leg and back) and told him "money, money" , "give it or i will hit you in your face".
Can you imagine how i feel right now, i could take a fucking axe right now and murder some people without second thought.
Probably if i could have these guys infront of me right now, i would kill them, no matter what the law says in this country, i would take them apart piece by piece.
You know, stuff like this happens alot in our country.
I know we should not be racist, and i know that for every rotten individual there is one that tries hard to fit in.
But if a crime happens here, it is 80% of the time committed by a individual of foreign origins. Apparently there must be something with their culture or education that dictates them that robbing old people is a good thing to do.
north african? How is that different from other africans? I am serious, I didn't really know there was a difference.
You should remember that the problem here has nothing to do with race, it's culture. Or more specifically, the poor people coming from shitty places and shitty parents that raise them (or lack of parents or complete family systems). Also, this is not just about poor people, or certain cultures specifically. There are rich kids that have shitty parents that will do stuff like this too. etc.
It just so happens that most times, all these things line up together with a X race of people in Y place. Every place has their bad. In my city, I would say the biggest problem is actually white people. Bunch of tweakers and bros who think they are hard.
On October 25 2013 06:58 MarlieChurphy wrote: north african? How is that different from other africans? I am serious, I didn't really know there was a difference.
I believe he means what we might call "middle eastern" in the united states. I.e. brown skin, dark hair.
That is different from "sub-Saharan" african that we might call "african american" in the US.
As to why you shouldn't become a "racist asshole:" because it doesn't make any sense? Judging people on race never does.
80% of the time that it is reported or publicized maybe, but I find it hard to believe that 80% of crimes in total are committed by foreigners.
To be honest I have experienced stuff like this in my country with certain groups, but honestly I've met some really cool people that made me realize that I shouldn't let bad people ruin my perception of a group as a whole. I'm sorry about your grandfather, though. Have you reported this to the police yet?
Because regardless of how many cunts there are in the ethnic minorities, it doesnt speak for all of them, never has and never will.
Judge every person as their own entity, do not make broad assumptions based on skin colour, race or religion.
Those north-african dudes are cunts who deserve an axe to the face (or an arrow to the knee.) but there are plenty others out there who have hearts of gold. You have to remember that not all north-africans live in your town / country, it is literally as simple as "getting a bad bunch".
By all means go hunt those fuckers down and fistfuck them with a knuckleduster, but be polite to the nice lady in the grocery store.
On October 25 2013 06:58 MarlieChurphy wrote: north african? How is that different from other africans? I am serious, I didn't really know there was a difference.
I believe he means what we might call "middle eastern" in the united states. I.e. brown skin, dark hair.
That is different from "sub-Saharan" african that we might call "african american" in the US.
As to why you shouldn't become a "racist asshole:" because it doesn't make any sense? Judging people on race never does.
Ah the A-rabs. Btw, I always say middle eastern, but people in USA normally will say arab. I always assumed this to be somewhat racist, and incorrect considering that arab comes from arabian or saudia arabia which is obviously wrong 90% of the time.
Anyways, that's weird. I guess there are a couple of countries in North Afro that are middle eastern peoples. Morrocco, Libya, Sudan and Egypt. edit- forgot Tunisia and Algeria
On October 25 2013 06:58 MarlieChurphy wrote: north african? How is that different from other africans? I am serious, I didn't really know there was a difference.
I believe he means what we might call "middle eastern" in the united states. I.e. brown skin, dark hair.
That is different from "sub-Saharan" african that we might call "african american" in the US.
As to why you shouldn't become a "racist asshole:" because it doesn't make any sense? Judging people on race never does.
Ah the A-rabs. Btw, I always say middle eastern, but people in USA normally will say arab. I always assumed this to be somewhat racist, and incorrect considering that arab comes from arabian or saudia arabia which is obviously wrong 90% of the time.
Anyways, that's weird. I guess there are a couple of countries in North Afro that are middle eastern peoples. Morrocco, Libya, Sudan and Egypt.
Saying arab is dumb, and I wouldn't say all the people in the US do it (only what I would consider uneducated people, largely). Iranian people are not arab at all (persian descent), and take offense to it (just as an example). Middle eastern is much more common, but still not all that correct, unless you define the "middle east" as basically all of africa north of the sahara.
On October 25 2013 06:58 MarlieChurphy wrote: north african? How is that different from other africans? I am serious, I didn't really know there was a difference.
I believe he means what we might call "middle eastern" in the united states. I.e. brown skin, dark hair.
That is different from "sub-Saharan" african that we might call "african american" in the US.
As to why you shouldn't become a "racist asshole:" because it doesn't make any sense? Judging people on race never does.
Ah the A-rabs. Btw, I always say middle eastern, but people in USA normally will say arab. I always assumed this to be somewhat racist, and incorrect considering that arab comes from arabian or saudia arabia which is obviously wrong 90% of the time.
Anyways, that's weird. I guess there are a couple of countries in North Afro that are middle eastern peoples. Morrocco, Libya, Sudan and Egypt.
Saying arab is dumb, and I wouldn't say all the people in the US do it (only what I would consider uneducated people, largely). Iranian people are not arab at all (persian descent), and take offense to it (just as an example). Middle eastern is much more common, but still not all that correct, unless you define the "middle east" as basically all of africa north of the sahara.
yea, noticing that too. So what is the most PC term then? And furthermore, asian is usually meant to mean oriental type peoples from south-east part of the continent. But we also have India and Russia there too, so they are asians technically.
There is some correlation between race and crime, but it's important to know that not all people of a race follow the same suit. The reason why there's correlation between race and crime is that people naturally associate with others of the same race, and people are also strongly influenced by those around them. So for example, if there's a group of Koreans that are criminals, the families they raise and the people who become friends with them have a much higher chance of committing crime compared to someone who's around good people. The important thing to know is that even though this particular group of Koreans are criminals, it doesn't correlate with Koreans as a whole, and Koreans are inherently not criminals.
There are two regions that I've lived in before. Both of them have a very large aboriginal population, but one of them, they are mostly gangsters, while the other one is full of very nice people. So yeah, when I was in the former region, I've ran into way too many aboriginals that were violent, tried to sell me drugs, and even had some sort of gang fight happen right outside my house. While I wouldn't actively display any discrimination and I would be polite to them when approached, I would still avoid them if possible. Yeah I'm being racist and judging people by their skin color, but when there's such a strong statistical correlation between race and crime in this particular area, I would rather be racist than get mugged. Sometimes you really don't have the opportunity to get to know what people are like inside, because you may be putting yourself in danger. Even though I have had negative experiences with aboriginals in this region, I've met a lot of great people and even made a lot of friends at the other place.
On October 25 2013 06:58 MarlieChurphy wrote: north african? How is that different from other africans? I am serious, I didn't really know there was a difference.
I believe he means what we might call "middle eastern" in the united states. I.e. brown skin, dark hair.
That is different from "sub-Saharan" african that we might call "african american" in the US.
As to why you shouldn't become a "racist asshole:" because it doesn't make any sense? Judging people on race never does.
Ah the A-rabs. Btw, I always say middle eastern, but people in USA normally will say arab. I always assumed this to be somewhat racist, and incorrect considering that arab comes from arabian or saudia arabia which is obviously wrong 90% of the time.
Anyways, that's weird. I guess there are a couple of countries in North Afro that are middle eastern peoples. Morrocco, Libya, Sudan and Egypt.
Saying arab is dumb, and I wouldn't say all the people in the US do it (only what I would consider uneducated people, largely). Iranian people are not arab at all (persian descent), and take offense to it (just as an example). Middle eastern is much more common, but still not all that correct, unless you define the "middle east" as basically all of africa north of the sahara.
yea, noticing that too. So what is the most PC term then? And furthermore, asian is usually meant to mean oriental type peoples from south-east part of the continent. But we also have India and Russia there too, so they are asians technically.
You could become more specific, like call people Turks, Kurds, Iranians, etc. But as for people with brown skin, dark hair but european features that you only know come from majority Muslim countries, I don't think there is a better term than Middle-Easterner. Maybe Maghrebi/Berber if they are from North Africa? I also have a good friend who looks middle-eastern but is actually Italian, so honestly it could be very hard to actually be correct.
On October 25 2013 07:19 Chairman Ray wrote: There is some correlation between race and crime, but it's important to know that not all people of a race follow the same suit. The reason why there's correlation between race and crime is that people naturally associate with others of the same race, and people are also strongly influenced by those around them. So for example, if there's a group of Koreans that are criminals, the families they raise and the people who become friends with them have a much higher chance of committing crime compared to someone who's around good people. The important thing to know is that even though this particular group of Koreans are criminals, it doesn't correlate with Koreans as a whole, and Koreans are inherently not criminals.
There are two regions that I've lived in before. Both of them have a very large aboriginal population, but one of them, they are mostly gangsters, while the other one is full of very nice people. So yeah, when I was in the former region, I've ran into way too many aboriginals that were violent, tried to sell me drugs, and even had some sort of gang fight happen right outside my house. While I wouldn't actively display any discrimination and I would be polite to them when approached, I would still avoid them if possible. Yeah I'm being racist and judging people by their skin color, but when there's such a strong statistical correlation between race and crime in this particular area, I would rather be racist than get mugged. Sometimes you really don't have the opportunity to get to know what people are like inside, because you may be putting yourself in danger. Even though I have had negative experiences with aboriginals in this region, I've met a lot of great people and even made a lot of friends at the other place.
That's not racism, that's profiling. And there is nothing wrong with it.
On October 25 2013 07:19 Chairman Ray wrote: There is some correlation between race and crime, but it's important to know that not all people of a race follow the same suit. The reason why there's correlation between race and crime is that people naturally associate with others of the same race, and people are also strongly influenced by those around them. So for example, if there's a group of Koreans that are criminals, the families they raise and the people who become friends with them have a much higher chance of committing crime compared to someone who's around good people. The important thing to know is that even though this particular group of Koreans are criminals, it doesn't correlate with Koreans as a whole, and Koreans are inherently not criminals.
There are two regions that I've lived in before. Both of them have a very large aboriginal population, but one of them, they are mostly gangsters, while the other one is full of very nice people. So yeah, when I was in the former region, I've ran into way too many aboriginals that were violent, tried to sell me drugs, and even had some sort of gang fight happen right outside my house. While I wouldn't actively display any discrimination and I would be polite to them when approached, I would still avoid them if possible. Yeah I'm being racist and judging people by their skin color, but when there's such a strong statistical correlation between race and crime in this particular area, I would rather be racist than get mugged. Sometimes you really don't have the opportunity to get to know what people are like inside, because you may be putting yourself in danger. Even though I have had negative experiences with aboriginals in this region, I've met a lot of great people and even made a lot of friends at the other place.
That's not racism, that's profiling. And there is nothing wrong with it.
hmm, I learn something new every day from TL. Thanks
You should dislike the culture that they come from, and that produced them, rather than the race. If they had grown up as babies in your country and culture, they would probably have had the same chance of being a criminal as individuals who were born there.
In Sweden, immigrants from some countries are over represented in crime statistics (middle eastern countries mostly). However, the earlier they immigrate, the less crime they commit, so the biggest factor is upbringing and culture (their genes were the same, but their culture was not).
It's probably the same with african immigrants in your country. If you take a sample of people from a country, the higher the crime rate is in that country, the more criminals you will have in your sample rate. That's what immigration is.
I doubt that growing up in a country improves them. People will hate regardless much like the OP and that will make them outsiders and fucked-up individuals more likely to commit crime then the average (ok, white.) citizen.
I know for damn sure that in england that black dude could have grown up here or flown in from Zimbabwe he's still taking my wallet. Same for any other race.
Alright. first off, sorry, i needed to vent really hard. Second, if mods decide that this blog will in no way positively contribute to teamliquid, then feel free to just shut it down and banish it to the darkest corners of the internet.
I know alot of good people from other cultures too. And i have great respect for those who try to get a honest job and build a peaceful family.
But yea, it pisses me off when people defend these kind of crimes by saying its just because they have no chances in this society. Even if that was true, nothing excuses physically harming an old man in his home. Also on the streets, i meet alot of hostility from these groups of people. I dont go to their country to claim entire neighborhoods and throw rocks at the police (yea that actually happens in belgium, police are threatening to go on a strike here after one of their colleagues got badly injured by a rock in a neighborhood that is labeled as a no-go zone (lawless)..)
If I'm in a city and I see a black/hispanic male dressed like some gangbanger, there's no way I would trust him. Like someone else mentioned, that's not racism, that's profiling, and it's also just good sense. The statistics are pretty well known and they show blacks and hispanics account for a disproportionately large amount of crimes relative to their populations in America. I think the unfortunate part is when the african american community want to blame racism for all of the negative reactions they get when the real problem is in their own community, because it's definitely a culture thing. What's even stranger, is that most of these crimes committed by blacks or hispanics are victimizing other blacks and hispanics, and yet many fail to realize the problem is in their own neighborhoods. It's definitely not racism though. It's the same logic behind staying away from dangerous animals, because of a repeated history of violence towards humans.
EDIT: I'm half hispanic, and the hispanics in my family are lovely people. I'm speaking from a statistical sense here. Obviously not every black/hispanic is out to rob you, that is racism.
On October 25 2013 08:48 blinkingangels wrote: It's definitely not racism though. It's the same logic behind staying away from dangerous animals, because of a repeated history of violence towards humans.
Fuckin lol
op you clearly realize that the actions of a few individuals can not be used to label or define an entire population, so dont worry about being racist.
your country needs those people so you can exploit their labor. otherwise your economy would collapse. when you import an underclass, you import desperation, anomie, and crime
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