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hp.Shell
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2527 Posts
August 31 2013 03:00 GMT
#21
On August 31 2013 03:25 travis wrote:
You are a watcher, not a person. You watch the person. You watch the mind. You watch the universe. If there is a god you are it and it is you. There is only one thing, how could it be any other way. You cannot control things you can only experience them. How can you control one thing when everything is connected. You cannot change things already set in motion just as you cannot stop the seconds from counting down on the clock.

I have experienced this multiple times. The first time I was really really tired from being physically overworked and had I not learned how to release control and just enter flow state, moving my body without thinking, well. I might have passed out. The way I see it is almost like you are allowing spirit to take control, resting your mind which in turn rests your body, because if the mind is not controlling the body then the body doesn't feel like it is tiring.

Watch the person, watch it grow and understand and love because with understanding comes love. See the faults and weaknesses in the person and witness the person do their best in this world against their shortcomings, as all people do. Know that what you see in the person is what is in all people, that we are all the watcher and we are all struggling to understand and love ourselves. And through this learn to love all people and be released from negativity.

This is really sublime insight. I would ask what motivated you to begin when there are all these distractions? How do you focus on long-term fulfillment instead of instant or shorter-term satisfaction? I feel like an instant gratification junkie, never sober enough where I can actually muster enough willpower to even BEGIN to move toward fulfillment. And when I do it is a short-lived effort.

I had thoughts about the concept of an "oversoul" recently. I thought I may write a blog about it but I don't think it would be the best place for it as I'm not sure I want to talk about it beyond mentioning the idea.

Let's pretend that humans have souls that are separate due to the separation of consciousness from each body to the next. The goal of each soul is to grow and develop into something stronger and greater than it is. Now there is also an oversoul, which I'll call "the collective group of souls within an arbitrarily defined area like a star system or galaxy, which remain separated by consciousness but are connected by the sub/unconscious." If all the souls in the oversoul were to suddenly realize, unconditionally, that they are connected to each other in every way, the result would be the oversoul.

So the oversoul's goal is, much like its separate souls, to grow and develop into something stronger and greater than it is. How it does this is by the interactions the subsouls (=souls) have on the whole. People like Buddha (if he existed) and Ghandi and Hitler, Tutankhamen and da Vinci, Pope Boniface VIII and Galileo Galilei have made large impacts on the collective experience in this realm. It is the growth of individual souls that both impacts and creates growth in the oversoul. So this kind of quality of life is something we should all be striving for, for if we believe in souls, the apparent best way to grow is by impacting the oversoul.
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farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18866 Posts
August 31 2013 03:04 GMT
#22
There was definitely a real Gautama Buddha. Whether or not he reached perfect enlightenment I'm not so sure
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GERMasta
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany212 Posts
August 31 2013 07:27 GMT
#23
On August 31 2013 07:15 travis wrote:
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On August 31 2013 05:59 Sauwelios wrote:
I for one am not buying it because you hardly put forth any arguments for your view, and the few arguments that you do put forth are quite vague and not very well thought out. So with that I don't have any reason to accept any of your statements. But then again, I guess the purpose of this post was not to argue for a certain view, but to just write a few sentences on what you think is the case. That's nice and all, but we all have some idea of what is the case - the difference between good and bad views is that the good ones are supported by good arguments, the bad ones are not.


Well people can think about or debate what I am saying if they want to. If they think about it then awesome! If they debate it that can be even more fun. I wrote what I wrote, if people simply dismiss it without thinking about it then that's their business not mine. They can say it's because I didn't provide enough supporting argument, I could say it's because of laziness or disinterest. It would be very difficult to objectively claim one of us as being right.

Oh I see, so if I make a bad argument and fail to convince people, then they must all

To say it's not well thought out would be ridiculous as you have no idea how much thought went into it.
I don't need to know how much thought went into an argument to know whether it's well thought out or not. If the argument is bad, it's not well thought; if it is good, then it is well thought out. I can have a true insight into something, but as long as I cannot give arguments for my view, people won't be convinced that the thing I know is really the case. Claiming that people who are not convinced by bad arguments are simply 'lazy' or 'disinterested' is like being in gold league and blaming imbalance for losing you games - maybe the fault lies with you?
Japhybaby
Profile Blog Joined February 2013
Canada301 Posts
August 31 2013 14:49 GMT
#24
On August 31 2013 12:00 hp.Shell wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2013 03:25 travis wrote:
You are a watcher, not a person. You watch the person. You watch the mind. You watch the universe. If there is a god you are it and it is you. There is only one thing, how could it be any other way. You cannot control things you can only experience them. How can you control one thing when everything is connected. You cannot change things already set in motion just as you cannot stop the seconds from counting down on the clock.

I have experienced this multiple times. The first time I was really really tired from being physically overworked and had I not learned how to release control and just enter flow state, moving my body without thinking, well. I might have passed out. The way I see it is almost like you are allowing spirit to take control, resting your mind which in turn rests your body, because if the mind is not controlling the body then the body doesn't feel like it is tiring.

Show nested quote +
Watch the person, watch it grow and understand and love because with understanding comes love. See the faults and weaknesses in the person and witness the person do their best in this world against their shortcomings, as all people do. Know that what you see in the person is what is in all people, that we are all the watcher and we are all struggling to understand and love ourselves. And through this learn to love all people and be released from negativity.

This is really sublime insight. I would ask what motivated you to begin when there are all these distractions? How do you focus on long-term fulfillment instead of instant or shorter-term satisfaction? I feel like an instant gratification junkie, never sober enough where I can actually muster enough willpower to even BEGIN to move toward fulfillment. And when I do it is a short-lived effort.

I had thoughts about the concept of an "oversoul" recently. I thought I may write a blog about it but I don't think it would be the best place for it as I'm not sure I want to talk about it beyond mentioning the idea.

Let's pretend that humans have souls that are separate due to the separation of consciousness from each body to the next. The goal of each soul is to grow and develop into something stronger and greater than it is. Now there is also an oversoul, which I'll call "the collective group of souls within an arbitrarily defined area like a star system or galaxy, which remain separated by consciousness but are connected by the sub/unconscious." If all the souls in the oversoul were to suddenly realize, unconditionally, that they are connected to each other in every way, the result would be the oversoul.

So the oversoul's goal is, much like its separate souls, to grow and develop into something stronger and greater than it is. How it does this is by the interactions the subsouls (=souls) have on the whole. People like Buddha (if he existed) and Ghandi and Hitler, Tutankhamen and da Vinci, Pope Boniface VIII and Galileo Galilei have made large impacts on the collective experience in this realm. It is the growth of individual souls that both impacts and creates growth in the oversoul. So this kind of quality of life is something we should all be striving for, for if we believe in souls, the apparent best way to grow is by impacting the oversoul.


Hitler? He killed families for no reason. William Blake says "if others were not foolish then we should be so" or somthing..so maybe that would be "the over souls" intent with that person? Because if there were an over mind or something it'd have intent I think.

But Buddhism in my understanding would inherently disagree with this idea because one of the core ideas is that there is no good or bad to be reached because everythign is already perfect. *shrug* i only care about this stuff occasionally.
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