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On July 11 2013 00:28 govie wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2013 23:33 NoobSkills wrote:
Is this true? Rich's spare time > Twitch's entire team? Problem is monetizing there streams. It costs money to provide for them so they need something in return. In general i would say using rich his tool is smart, but killing twitch also. Which will mean twitch has to respond to this richtool if usage would become more frequent. If u like streamed esports, best is to be patient to let twitch sort it out on there own terms and accept the lag. Peeps using it are killing esports, although i understand they want a lagfree stream^^ 
How is this "killing esports" exactly? It's just a change in how Flash player accepts the data stream. The stream still comes from Twitch, the ads still come from Twitch, etc, there's not really anything different in that regard.
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I replaced the download with a newer version that is less spammy on the console window and shows some throughput stats.
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If I understand correctly it's not like more data is being requested.
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On July 09 2013 16:37 R1CH wrote:Show nested quote +On July 09 2013 16:04 NarutO wrote:You are just so amazing. Always contributing amazing stuff to the community. While I will try this out, I'd also like to ask what you think about the following: http://www.bananaconda.net/2013/05/how-to-fix-lag-on-twitchtv-vimeo-and.htmlMy connection doesn't lag all too often, but it does happen from time to time. I will try it out and give feedback if I happen to watch a streamed-tournament (not just occasionally but a larger tournament, so the feedback is appropriate) That guide doesn't do anything for Twitch, they run their own CDN and don't rely on L3 / XO (except for mobile streams and certain rare scenarios). It keeps getting posted which is quite annoying as if anyone did any testing they would see the IPs mentioned in that guide are never accessed when watching Twitch.
Hi R1CH,
The only reason my post is still up is because I keep getting comments on the youtube video for it from people in Europe and Germany about it fixing their lag completely. The results are however 50/50. Regrettably I cannot do traceroutes or use wireshark from all of their locations. I do monitor the posts and the youtube video closely and have considered it's removal only based on your own credential disapproval. When I stop seeing results, it will be removed.
Source: http://www.youtube[dot]com/watch?v=3MSY_hK2D54
(I did not want it to auto embed)
(POSITIVE feedback, like I said, it's 50/50, there is plenty of DID NOT WORK)
" reyes797 21 hours ago
LOL before this i only can view 360p but now i can see 1080p easy w no lag I SAY WTF IS THIS BLACK MAGIC"
" iTry2Merch 1 day ago
Thank you soo much man srsly ."
" Stephan Goll 2 days ago
THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU!"
Regardless, congratulations on an awesome fix, as always your contribution to the gaming community is always appreciated. You rule dude
Mark West
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Hey R1CH ive been testing this thing for 2 days on quite a different number of streams.
This works to an extent in Player streams, sometimes I suspect its the placebo efect. But it feels better, less shuttering etc.
This does not work (at least for me) if the lagg is comming from a high view count twitch tv channel, like a tournament and such.
my pc is kinda crappy thou so maybe the procesor is not good enough to handle your code at an eficient level.
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Canada515 Posts
This doesn't work for Vista? 
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On July 11 2013 16:24 MrRicewife wrote:This doesn't work for Vista?
I bet you just don't have the libraries installed the program uses. It's linked in the OP, that "visual studio runtimes" stuff.
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On July 11 2013 10:50 R1CH wrote:Show nested quote +On July 11 2013 00:28 govie wrote:On July 10 2013 23:33 NoobSkills wrote:
Is this true? Rich's spare time > Twitch's entire team? Problem is monetizing there streams. It costs money to provide for them so they need something in return. In general i would say using rich his tool is smart, but killing twitch also. Which will mean twitch has to respond to this richtool if usage would become more frequent. If u like streamed esports, best is to be patient to let twitch sort it out on there own terms and accept the lag. Peeps using it are killing esports, although i understand they want a lagfree stream^^ How is this "killing esports" exactly? It's just a change in how Flash player accepts the data stream. The stream still comes from Twitch, the ads still come from Twitch, etc, there's not really anything different in that regard.
U wrote the below quote a while ago in this thread. I assumed your little monster blocked that analytics or similar stuff, which in general would have hurt there monetizing efforts. But maybe i read ur post the wrong way?
+ Show Spoiler +On July 09 2013 04:51 R1CH wrote:
Yes, I was considering posting about this too. Twitch runs a lot of analytics and tracking scripts which can slow down your browser / Flash and cause decoding to run too slow. Blocking them can improve things at the expense of mildly hurting ESPORTS.
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On July 11 2013 16:56 govie wrote:Show nested quote +On July 11 2013 10:50 R1CH wrote:On July 11 2013 00:28 govie wrote:On July 10 2013 23:33 NoobSkills wrote:
Is this true? Rich's spare time > Twitch's entire team? Problem is monetizing there streams. It costs money to provide for them so they need something in return. In general i would say using rich his tool is smart, but killing twitch also. Which will mean twitch has to respond to this richtool if usage would become more frequent. If u like streamed esports, best is to be patient to let twitch sort it out on there own terms and accept the lag. Peeps using it are killing esports, although i understand they want a lagfree stream^^ How is this "killing esports" exactly? It's just a change in how Flash player accepts the data stream. The stream still comes from Twitch, the ads still come from Twitch, etc, there's not really anything different in that regard. U wrote the below quote a while ago in this thread. I assumed your little monster blocked that analytics or similar stuff, which in general would have hurt there monetizing efforts. But maybe i read ur post the wrong way? + Show Spoiler +On July 09 2013 04:51 R1CH wrote:
Yes, I was considering posting about this too. Twitch runs a lot of analytics and tracking scripts which can slow down your browser / Flash and cause decoding to run too slow. Blocking them can improve things at the expense of mildly hurting ESPORTS.
Look at the context for that post, he was talking to someone who was talking about using ghostery to block that stuff.
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I keep having this problem. http://gyazo.com/bd79c0e04c683f185d0df23417952198.png
Already checked all but I cant find a reason, it seems there is nothing like firewall or antivirus activated, i really dont know what to do, some tips?
btw, there is something really wrong going here with my connection on twitch.tv
I used to watch it sometimes in 720p, most on 480 and rarely on 360p.
But now it lags terribly in 240p, it's unwatchable, spiking 5 seconds and reproducing less than one
checked in another pc on sabe connection, same issue
speed test going ok
help me oracle
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Canada515 Posts
On July 11 2013 16:42 Ropid wrote:I bet you just don't have the libraries installed the program uses. It's linked in the OP, that "visual studio runtimes" stuff.
Nope. I have it all.
Do you have Vista and it works for you?
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Yeah I have the same problem, it tries to connect but then just says disconnected TT.
When I try to install than visual studio stuff it says I have already never version of it on my pc if that helps?
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On July 11 2013 13:09 bananaconda wrote:Show nested quote +On July 09 2013 16:37 R1CH wrote:On July 09 2013 16:04 NarutO wrote:You are just so amazing. Always contributing amazing stuff to the community. While I will try this out, I'd also like to ask what you think about the following: http://www.bananaconda.net/2013/05/how-to-fix-lag-on-twitchtv-vimeo-and.htmlMy connection doesn't lag all too often, but it does happen from time to time. I will try it out and give feedback if I happen to watch a streamed-tournament (not just occasionally but a larger tournament, so the feedback is appropriate) That guide doesn't do anything for Twitch, they run their own CDN and don't rely on L3 / XO (except for mobile streams and certain rare scenarios). It keeps getting posted which is quite annoying as if anyone did any testing they would see the IPs mentioned in that guide are never accessed when watching Twitch. Hi R1CH, The only reason my post is still up is because I keep getting comments on the youtube video for it from people in Europe and Germany about it fixing their lag completely. The results are however 50/50. Regrettably I cannot do traceroutes or use wireshark from all of their locations. I do monitor the posts and the youtube video closely and have considered it's removal only based on your own credential disapproval. When I stop seeing results, it will be removed. Source: http://www.youtube[dot]com/watch?v=3MSY_hK2D54 (I did not want it to auto embed) (POSITIVE feedback, like I said, it's 50/50, there is plenty of DID NOT WORK) " reyes797 21 hours ago LOL before this i only can view 360p but now i can see 1080p easy w no lag I SAY WTF IS THIS BLACK MAGIC" " iTry2Merch 1 day ago Thank you soo much man srsly ." " Stephan Goll 2 days ago THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU!" Regardless, congratulations on an awesome fix, as always your contribution to the gaming community is always appreciated. You rule dude Mark West
Thanks to both of you,
R1CH, yours was working for a bit and I understand your reasoning behind why the BananaConda thing shouldn't work and yet for reasons I have yet to discover, it worked for me thus far.
I will run some tests on my side and see what I can come up with in order to have a stronger point for it.
Thanks again guys <3 you are both heroes on this day.
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i get this on the black box: 192.16.70.39: read: 10599, avg 1023 kbps, cur: 1108 kbps, buffer : 3 kb blocked: 46
i still have lagg is this ok?
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Been using the proxy for a couple days. It seems to be running fine, but I don't see any improvement. I am starting to get the feeling that my ISP is the culprit. AT&T claims that they don't throttle, but I can't watch any streams at 720p or 720p+ except in rare occasions where there is nothing happening on the stream other than music.
Very frustrating.
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R1CH you truly are a wizard, thanks a bunch for making this!
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Works for me, thanks :-)
Went from 720p being unwatchable on most streams to 1080p having no lag.
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Unfortunately doesn't fix things for me x.x, still stuttering even at 480. TWC NYC is the worst.
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Windows vista + chrome here.
Did the windows firewall rules thing with the 2 IP bans.
Worked can watch 1080p without lag now, even in fights
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Is there some way to fix the buffer with VODS on twitch? For me its 100 times more urgent than live lagging. You literally have to buffer for 2 hour to watch a VOD even for a little while.
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