• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 11:06
CET 17:06
KST 01:06
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
RSL Revival - 2025 Season Finals Preview8RSL Season 3 - Playoffs Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups C & D Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups A & B Preview2TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners12
Community News
Weekly Cups (Dec 15-21): Classic wins big, MaxPax & Clem take weeklies3ComeBackTV's documentary on Byun's Career !10Weekly Cups (Dec 8-14): MaxPax, Clem, Cure win4Weekly Cups (Dec 1-7): Clem doubles, Solar gets over the hump1Weekly Cups (Nov 24-30): MaxPax, Clem, herO win2
StarCraft 2
General
What's the best tug of war? The Grack before Christmas Weekly Cups (Dec 15-21): Classic wins big, MaxPax & Clem take weeklies ComeBackTV's documentary on Byun's Career ! Micro Lags When Playing SC2?
Tourneys
OSC Season 13 World Championship $5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship $100 Prize Pool - Winter Warp Gate Masters Showdow Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament Winter Warp Gate Amateur Showdown #1
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 505 Rise From Ashes Mutation # 504 Retribution Mutation # 503 Fowl Play Mutation # 502 Negative Reinforcement
Brood War
General
BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Recommended FPV games (post-KeSPA) BW General Discussion FlaSh on: Biggest Problem With SnOw's Playstyle soO on: FanTaSy's Potential Return to StarCraft
Tourneys
Small VOD Thread 2.0 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL21] LB QuarterFinals - Sunday 21:00 CET [BSL21] WB SEMIFINALS - Saturday 21:00 CET
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Game Theory for Starcraft Current Meta Fighting Spirit mining rates
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Beyond All Reason Path of Exile General RTS Discussion Thread
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas Survivor II: The Amazon Sengoku Mafia TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread The Games Industry And ATVI Russo-Ukrainian War Thread How Does UI/UX Design Influence User Trust? Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List TL+ Announced Where to ask questions and add stream?
Blogs
National Diversity: A Challe…
TrAiDoS
I decided to write a webnov…
DjKniteX
James Bond movies ranking - pa…
Topin
Thanks for the RSL
Hildegard
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 2291 users

map pool math

Blogs > Grumbels
Post a Reply
Grumbels
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Netherlands7031 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-03 09:32:54
June 02 2013 11:10 GMT
#1
In light of this thread on Blizzard aligning ladder seasons with the WCS, there was a discussion on what implications this has for map pools. A lot of people think that the WCS needs a shared map pool across regions, since it's a global sport and they all play together in the seasonal finals anyway.

I think it's more interesting to have different maps. There is however a problem, which is that for instance the upcoming seasonal finals uses the same map pool as WCS EU (despite being hosted in Korea), therefore possibly giving European players an advantage.

So you might want to have parity in the map pool for the seasonal finals. The definition for this would be that regardless of region of origin there are the same number of familiar maps for the global tournament. This assumes three regions, a global map pool based on taking maps from the different regional tournaments and a resulting four map pools of equal size.

This isn't always possible however. For instance, if three regions had the pools A B, A C, B C, then you can't pick a fair two maps. The only way around this is by introducing new ones, or by expanding the map pool to A B C, but this conflicts with the assumptions and therefore won't be considered. So this shows that you have to be careful in the choice of your regional map pools and that some degree of coordination is necessary.

I found out that you can use the following method to find out if the map pools allow you to have a fair seasonal final. What you basically do is line-up the pools per region. You start out with the maps shared across three regions. Then you take the maps shared across two regions (with a third 'random' map added from the region you left out). And then finally the maps that are unique for all regions. Now you give out scores, three points for the first, two points for the second, one point for the third. If the total score is divisible by three your map pool can have parity for the seasonal finals.

I added an example for the current WCS seasons here:
[image loading]
As you can see it's divisible by three so therefore it should be possible to have a fair map pool unlike the one for the seasonal finals. In this example they could replace Newkirk with Atlas in the seasonal finals and achieve this.

I only dabble in math occasionally, so please tell me if I overlooked something.

***
Well, now I tell you, I never seen good come o' goodness yet. Him as strikes first is my fancy; dead men don't bite; them's my views--amen, so be it.
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 54m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
SKillous 191
Livibee 137
BRAT_OK 85
mouzStarbuck 65
StarCraft: Brood War
Sea 5300
Rain 4354
EffOrt 747
Shuttle 604
ggaemo 333
Mini 221
firebathero 201
Snow 194
Sharp 121
Barracks 115
[ Show more ]
hero 109
Hyun 86
JYJ 68
Terrorterran 43
zelot 28
Sexy 22
yabsab 17
Shine 13
SilentControl 11
scan(afreeca) 11
Bale 10
JulyZerg 9
HiyA 5
Dota 2
qojqva4759
XcaliburYe786
Fuzer 207
League of Legends
Trikslyr22
Counter-Strike
zeus1250
edward218
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor225
Other Games
singsing2153
B2W.Neo815
Mlord368
crisheroes351
XaKoH 119
DeMusliM35
Organizations
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 14 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Light_VIP 53
• HeavenSC 31
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• Michael_bg 11
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• lizZardDota2114
Upcoming Events
Big Brain Bouts
54m
Elazer vs Nicoract
Reynor vs Scarlett
Replay Cast
8h 54m
Sparkling Tuna Cup
1d 17h
Krystianer vs TBD
TriGGeR vs SKillous
Percival vs TBD
ByuN vs Nicoract
OSC
2 days
Replay Cast
2 days
Wardi Open
2 days
OSC
3 days
Solar vs MaxPax
ByuN vs Krystianer
Spirit vs TBD
OSC
6 days
Liquipedia Results
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.