EPTSHOUTcraft America postmortem - Page 7
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Shady Sands
United States4021 Posts
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imJealous
United States1382 Posts
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TheRealNanMan
United States1471 Posts
I've said this on the reddit threads and on twitter but I feel it needs to be said again. These kinds of tournaments are vital for the growth of the North American scene! Up and coming players are able to show off their skills, get their name out there, and build a fan base for themselves and the scene is so necessary right now! I know i'm not alone in wanting to do anything in my power to help promote on going events like this! Thanks for all your guys hard work in putting this on! | ||
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WinterTV
United States297 Posts
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fezvez
France3021 Posts
Adding fuel to a dwindling fire Most viewers have not touched upon this but many NA pros have managed it. One of the best things this tournament accomplished was turning the NA ladder into a competitive warzone as players vied for precious top 16 spots. Everyone we've spoken to reported an immediate increase in competitive play resulting partially from top pros returning to American ladder from Korean or European grandmaster as well as everyone simply taking their games more seriously and giving 100% to win. The ladder became a better place to train due to those factors and the very thing that Blizzard claimed it wanted to do, “elevate” the level of play on the weakest ladder, was accomplished here even if only for a short time. If you want to elevate the ladder, you have to give it meaning. WCS does not do a thing to encourage that. If you want to beat Koreans you have to prepare specifically for them, you cannot just play ladder and hope to carry the day. Koreans will not come and play on NA ladder just because they are in WCS NA, that is inferior practice. Most Koreans treat NA ladder as stream fodder where they can slap around some foreigners with inferior builds and not have to show their true strength. Don't get me wrong that's totally fine and it's cool for NA streamers to meet up with these guys and show exciting battles, but true competition is needed. I believe Gennas decision to base on the tournament on the ladder was the correct one and if a second season occursI want to emphasize that even further, giving seeding based on ladder rank and playing over a much longer period to really get the ladder fired up. One of the legitimate criticisms of this event is that we did not give players enough time to qualify and that some pros were locked out of GM even though they shouldn't really have been. We aim to address this in future events by ensuring a longer qualification period before the ladder locks. This. Thank you TB for this very specific thing. Once again, you need to foster local competition to get to the grand stage. No one does it, except for Shoutcraft. Thanks once again. | ||
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daemir
Finland8662 Posts
Really sucks about the ISP problems. ISP #1 killing esports huehue. | ||
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bongling
41 Posts
i like the idea of using common sense regarding letting demuslim, polt, violet etc into a 32 man tournament, aslong as they have a commitent to NA and actively add to the scene i don't see a big problem. you also cast better than you think, a fine play by play and with the right kind of co caster, day9, idra, rotterdam, axslav i really enjoyed your work. hopefully wcs finds a nice balance and leaves some room for other tourneys, but keep up the good work and keep the ladder relevant, tis exciting. | ||
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TsGBruzze
Sweden1190 Posts
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EG.lectR
United States617 Posts
Is this in reference to StarCraft 2 or? | ||
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Crownlol
United States3726 Posts
On May 24 2013 05:16 daemir wrote: Region lock is the way, now that no NA are left in WCS NA, I have 0 interest watching it. Why would I? If I want to see koreans, I'll watch GSL. I want to see the NA players get more spotlight, I'm actually interested in seeing who is the best NA player, who is the best EU player, not just which korean happened to bother to this tournament. Really sucks about the ISP problems. ISP #1 killing esports huehue. It's rare that I see a post where I agree with all of the points, but, high five friend. | ||
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Sunfish
Austria162 Posts
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Linwelin
Ireland7554 Posts
On May 24 2013 05:45 Sunfish wrote: Curious, did you ever consider OBS over X-Split? It's a vastly superior program in my (and many others' opinion). His answer to that from the reddit thread OBS is completely incapable of the level of production I need for this event, not to mention the last couple of times I used it it actually wrecked the shows and mangled the vods. It is good for amateur streamers/guys that just wanna show gameplay, not for pro tournaments or complex productions. | ||
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shangul
Switzerland27 Posts
You're vision is worth fighting for. BillyEve | ||
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cjb230
United Kingdom1 Post
I'm new to the game and to watching competitions, but I really enjoyed it. The games might not reach KR Code S levels of perfection, but there's plenty there to keep my interest. I also really enjoyed the casting - Idra in particular provided a really good balance of analysis and humour. The only things I would change are the interview formats. I like listening to the players before the match, but I'd rather you didn't try to get some BM out of them! Hearing that someone is pleased they won isn't that interesting either. Still, I understand why you do it, and won't turn off because of it. As to ISP reliability, have you considered getting a few different residential connections, if possible, and using an off-the-shelf box to bond and share them? Might work out a lot cheaper than getting a dedicated line in. Thanks again! | ||
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ultrakiss
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Ireniicas
66 Posts
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Gleepwerp
Canada2 Posts
Lets see, Setup a premier SCII tournament (CHECK), Manage a SUCCESSFUL Korean eSports team (CHECK), Be a MOM (CHECK), Be married to TB and attempt to keep him in line (CHECK) How the hell do you manage all that? Hats off to you!! As mentioned elsewhere, I REALLY enjoyed the live ladder commentary as the Ladder Lock happened. That was spontaneous and just plain fun. The tournament had issues, no doubt. Very all-encompassing review TB. Bottom Line I have watched all of it, LIVE or VOD. This was fun and engaging and I hope you can do it again. Best wishes to all who assisted in this and keep up the good fight! | ||
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Masq
Canada1792 Posts
I fully support the region locking too and agree with most of your points. NA needs a tournament like SCA, perhaps with less prize pool in favor of more frequent tournaments to be more economical. I have no idea what kind of costs Homestory Cup runs, but they prove you can have a very entertaining tournament in your livingroom on a couch. I applaud what you guys are trying to do and truly wish you the best of luck. | ||
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Azarkon
United States21060 Posts
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Epamynondas
387 Posts
So I guess my question is whether the tip-jar cash is enough to make this not a big missing out of money for players. | ||
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