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hansmuff
Profile Joined September 2010
United States23 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-24 16:14:01
May 24 2013 16:07 GMT
#181
Genna and John,
Thank you for the tournament and this incredibly honest and detailed post mortem. Thank you for putting your resources into this on such a large scale, I really hope for a continuation and given both of your dedication, how can it not get better from here?
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Masq
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada1792 Posts
May 24 2013 16:10 GMT
#182
On May 24 2013 22:47 Badboyrune wrote:
Being from Sweden it continually boggles my mind how bad internet is in certain countries


currently paying about $70/month for 0.4mb upload
yay
Holy_AT
Profile Joined July 2010
Austria978 Posts
May 24 2013 16:57 GMT
#183
I really loved this tournament, especially your casting with day9, idra and husky.
It has so much more warmth and fun to it compared to the seemingly cold castings at MLG.
Please do not get on the all professional train because your casting will loose touch in my opinion.
I liked the atmosphere and considering the major technical difficulties that blizzard layed in your way it was really really good <3
Badboyrune
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Sweden2247 Posts
May 24 2013 17:17 GMT
#184
On May 25 2013 01:10 Masq wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2013 22:47 Badboyrune wrote:
Being from Sweden it continually boggles my mind how bad internet is in certain countries


currently paying about $70/month for 0.4mb upload
yay


That really does suck I pay about half that for 10mb upload and 100mb download. Data limits are also something that is just about non existent with broadband connections in Sweden, whereas I understand they're quite common in both US and Canada. If a Swedish ISP did that they'd lose customers faster than they could say 'money grubbing'.
"If yellow does start SC2, I should start handsomenerd diaper busniess and become a rich man" - John the Translator
Eventine
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States307 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-24 18:19:39
May 24 2013 18:19 GMT
#185
On May 25 2013 02:17 Badboyrune wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2013 01:10 Masq wrote:
On May 24 2013 22:47 Badboyrune wrote:
Being from Sweden it continually boggles my mind how bad internet is in certain countries


currently paying about $70/month for 0.4mb upload
yay


That really does suck I pay about half that for 10mb upload and 100mb download. Data limits are also something that is just about non existent with broadband connections in Sweden, whereas I understand they're quite common in both US and Canada. If a Swedish ISP did that they'd lose customers faster than they could say 'money grubbing'.


You don't really have many options, at least in places I've lived in the US. I'm in north carolina. Here, I have two choices, AT&T Uverse and Time Warner. At&t is more expensive and has a data cap. No matter how mad I am at Time Warner, switching makes me worse off.
You are everything, I never knew, I always wanted.
BlackAdder21
Profile Joined December 2011
United States10 Posts
May 24 2013 19:10 GMT
#186
TB and Genna,
Thank you for doing this and thank you for your thoughts on the event. +1, would watch again. Good luck in future related endeavors!
You speak when you should be listening, sheepherder.
Rainling
Profile Joined June 2011
United States456 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-24 20:11:58
May 24 2013 20:05 GMT
#187
Great post TB. I 100% agree with everything you said. I think relaxing the natural-born citizens requirement is for the best, and the tournament should be restricted to people who have lived in the US for a certain duration. I think having been born in the US is less important than being a member of the NA scene.

I watched this tournament whenever I could, and I would definitely watch another, so I hope there's a sequel! I'm sure if the technical issues are resolved it will be a much greater success.
Shikada
Profile Joined May 2012
Serbia976 Posts
May 24 2013 20:22 GMT
#188
I love these intelligent, no BS posts from TB. Really detailed and a joy to read. Thanks for taking the time to write this up. Really goes to show you how much of a keen sense TB has for esports.

Although TB, I think you let your channel suffer way too much for this tournament. Like you already pointed out, you can not afford this again.
TBone-
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States2309 Posts
May 24 2013 20:46 GMT
#189
Thanks so much for putting this event on. I am genuinely interested in the NA scene and I was so interested in it that the technical problems wasn't enough to turn me off. I sincerely hope there will be more!~

Eve online FC, lover of all competition
Thrill
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
2599 Posts
May 24 2013 22:12 GMT
#190
Make it a ladder qualifier, jeez. EZPZ as you say.
dankh
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
France15 Posts
May 24 2013 23:53 GMT
#191
SHOUTcraft is much better then WCS NA. It had a soul, it was really player oriented and very entertaining. WCS NA is produced like a classic american cast, which I hate. TB and his team have casted a video game, at WCS NA people cast a "regular sport". SC2 is not regular sport and I personally don't want it to be considered as one, never.
Champloo
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany1850 Posts
May 25 2013 00:13 GMT
#192
Why didn't they schedule the Shoutcraft America grand finals for tonight? There's nothing going on right now.
GunPaladin
Profile Joined September 2011
United States1205 Posts
May 25 2013 00:33 GMT
#193
Thanx for the tournament, please don't let a few chuckle heads on reddit color your opinion on future events.
The doctors gave me 9 months to live, ]BIG[ gave me a life time.
DisillusionedAcronym
Profile Joined September 2011
190 Posts
May 27 2013 01:03 GMT
#194
On May 24 2013 21:41 Proseat wrote:
Extensive. Hope you'll find ways to make another season possible.

So, what is the actual story with Kane's trophy?

he didn't have a way to take it home - he had carryon only and no check-in - so sasquatch (i think?) took it and will send to him.
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