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motbob
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States12546 Posts
May 20 2013 13:58 GMT
#1
I made a video.



The black box is there because I don't know how to disable unit portraits without turning off health bars. Anyone know how to do this?

**
ModeratorGood content always wins.
SushilS
Profile Joined November 2010
2115 Posts
May 20 2013 14:19 GMT
#2
OMG...
Mind=blown.

That is just .... just.... beautiful.
iceiceice: I’m going to make this short; I am the one true tinker player.
Thor.Rush
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden702 Posts
May 20 2013 14:40 GMT
#3
it is beautiful : ) best moba
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Incze
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Romania2058 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-20 15:15:36
May 20 2013 15:15 GMT
#4
Saw this live. Amazing
Religion: Buckethead
Spicy_Curry
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States10573 Posts
May 20 2013 16:11 GMT
#5
I wish I could watch all teamfights in slomo
High Risk Low Reward
Warri
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany3208 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-20 16:20:26
May 20 2013 16:20 GMT
#6
mega misplay by funzii there. could have probably won the fight and the whole game if he got the rp off by not getting stunned from running out of puck ult.
(or by not standing in the most advanced position despite having a dagger)
Shadowpostin
Profile Joined June 2012
Germany798 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-20 16:59:10
May 20 2013 16:58 GMT
#7
The misplay was actually dd not assuming bane was in the trees on the highground.
I said before the fight even began that what mouz need to do is force an engagement near the trees or high ground where bane can get a good ult of that rubick can't steal.Idk why they forced the rosh so hard tbh,I felt like they were in a decent spot without the aegis on rapier gyro,they just needed to make sure they see bane and give rubick space to steal the ult.
Moreover,mouz had vision the whole time and could have just waited for the gyro to get roshan really low and than just bane ult him and steal the aegis with puck.I don't think it was a risky play to consider as dd were scared shitless to let anyone else in the pit cept from gyro.Just came down to dd not even thinking about the obvious bane on the highground.
Video is cool props motbob
allow me to demonstrate the skill of shaolin
AnomalySC2
Profile Joined August 2012
United States2073 Posts
May 20 2013 17:06 GMT
#8
It is indeed an incredible looking game. So much detail and amazing animations.
TylerThaCreator
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States906 Posts
May 20 2013 17:32 GMT
#9
Did it really have to be at 0.2x speed?
aka SethN
Apom
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
France656 Posts
May 20 2013 18:03 GMT
#10
Well I don't know shit about Dota (only played a few SotiS games back then), but big guy with two swords looks kinda OP.
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
May 20 2013 18:10 GMT
#11
On May 21 2013 03:03 Apom wrote:
Well I don't know shit about Dota (only played a few SotiS games back then), but big guy with two swords looks kinda OP.

Hint: he doesn't get to use two swords all the time. usually he uses his fists. Big with with Fists much less OP.
Butterednuts
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States859 Posts
May 20 2013 18:12 GMT
#12
On May 21 2013 02:32 TylerThaCreator wrote:
Did it really have to be at 0.2x speed?


Seriously this. It was damn annoying to watch it so slowly.
Chameleons Cast No Shadows
AnomalySC2
Profile Joined August 2012
United States2073 Posts
May 20 2013 18:21 GMT
#13
On May 21 2013 03:12 Butterednuts wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2013 02:32 TylerThaCreator wrote:
Did it really have to be at 0.2x speed?


Seriously this. It was damn annoying to watch it so slowly.


Point = missed.
Targe
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom14103 Posts
May 20 2013 18:25 GMT
#14
God I love this game.

On May 21 2013 02:32 TylerThaCreator wrote:
Did it really have to be at 0.2x speed?


Yes.
11/5/14 CATACLYSM | The South West's worst Falco main
Thrill
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
2599 Posts
May 20 2013 18:39 GMT
#15
It really isn't.

Not your fault though, nice job with the video.
Catch]22
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Sweden2683 Posts
May 20 2013 19:13 GMT
#16
On May 21 2013 03:25 Targe wrote:
God I love this game.

Show nested quote +
On May 21 2013 02:32 TylerThaCreator wrote:
Did it really have to be at 0.2x speed?


Yes.


Agreed
Cyx.
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada806 Posts
May 20 2013 19:30 GMT
#17
On May 21 2013 03:21 AnomalySC2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2013 03:12 Butterednuts wrote:
On May 21 2013 02:32 TylerThaCreator wrote:
Did it really have to be at 0.2x speed?


Seriously this. It was damn annoying to watch it so slowly.


Point = missed.

I watched it twice because I felt like I missed things still
Rimstalker
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany734 Posts
May 20 2013 20:03 GMT
#18
you had to use music that is under copyright so that pretty much all Germans can't watch it? :/
Here be Dragons
Targe
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom14103 Posts
May 20 2013 20:03 GMT
#19
On May 21 2013 05:03 Rimstalker wrote:
you had to use music that is under copyright so that pretty much all Germans can't watch it? :/

proxy?
11/5/14 CATACLYSM | The South West's worst Falco main
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
May 20 2013 20:04 GMT
#20
best moba
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
GaNgStaRR.ElV
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada535 Posts
May 20 2013 20:10 GMT
#21
Did you delete my post? thats kind of mean.... i liked ur video b4 that.
caelym
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States6421 Posts
May 20 2013 21:05 GMT
#22
god damn, Dota 2's art and animations are beautiful.
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Jaeger
Profile Joined December 2009
United States1150 Posts
May 20 2013 21:10 GMT
#23
On May 20 2013 22:58 motbob wrote:
The black box is there because I don't know how to disable unit portraits without turning off health bars. Anyone know how to do this?


Are these commands useful?

http://www.cyborgmatt.com/2012/02/dota-2-tips-for-movie-makers/
https://www.dotabuff.com/players/8137911
motbob
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States12546 Posts
May 20 2013 21:22 GMT
#24
On May 21 2013 06:10 Jaeger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2013 22:58 motbob wrote:
The black box is there because I don't know how to disable unit portraits without turning off health bars. Anyone know how to do this?


Are these commands useful?

http://www.cyborgmatt.com/2012/02/dota-2-tips-for-movie-makers/

Unfortunately, no, that page says what the problem is: the only way to disable portraits is to disable all HUD elements (and I want health bars so that's not an option.)
ModeratorGood content always wins.
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
May 20 2013 21:30 GMT
#25
On May 21 2013 06:22 motbob wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2013 06:10 Jaeger wrote:
On May 20 2013 22:58 motbob wrote:
The black box is there because I don't know how to disable unit portraits without turning off health bars. Anyone know how to do this?


Are these commands useful?

http://www.cyborgmatt.com/2012/02/dota-2-tips-for-movie-makers/

Unfortunately, no, that page says what the problem is: the only way to disable portraits is to disable all HUD elements (and I want health bars so that's not an option.)

could you record it twice from the exact same camera angles? once with HUD disabled once without? and then edit in the HP bars?
greggy
Profile Joined October 2010
United Kingdom1483 Posts
May 20 2013 22:56 GMT
#26
lack of minimap really hinders the viewing experience. should've just left the hud in place
motbob
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States12546 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-20 23:05:11
May 20 2013 23:05 GMT
#27
On May 21 2013 06:30 PrinceXizor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2013 06:22 motbob wrote:
On May 21 2013 06:10 Jaeger wrote:
On May 20 2013 22:58 motbob wrote:
The black box is there because I don't know how to disable unit portraits without turning off health bars. Anyone know how to do this?


Are these commands useful?

http://www.cyborgmatt.com/2012/02/dota-2-tips-for-movie-makers/

Unfortunately, no, that page says what the problem is: the only way to disable portraits is to disable all HUD elements (and I want health bars so that's not an option.)

could you record it twice from the exact same camera angles? once with HUD disabled once without? and then edit in the HP bars?

I'm not sure how I would get the camera to do the same thing twice.
ModeratorGood content always wins.
ViZe
Profile Joined January 2011
United States1513 Posts
May 21 2013 00:08 GMT
#28
motbob you are beautiful
ETisME
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
12488 Posts
May 21 2013 00:44 GMT
#29
just showed my GF who only played LoL and she was surprised how much better Dota 2 looks compared to LoL.
Sadly the game is way too challenging on mechanics for her to play, otherwise I would dive back into Dota scene too
其疾如风,其徐如林,侵掠如火,不动如山,难知如阴,动如雷震。
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
May 21 2013 00:48 GMT
#30
On May 21 2013 09:44 ETisME wrote:
just showed my GF who only played LoL and she was surprised how much better Dota 2 looks compared to LoL.
Sadly the game is way too challenging on mechanics for her to play, otherwise I would dive back into Dota scene too

hand her lion and explain to her that she's really squishy. and she'll have a good time with little need for mechanics. impale/earth spike are pretty easy to hit, hex is hard to miss, and mana drain alleviates the LoL -> dota shock of actually having to manage your mana.
DropBear
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia4371 Posts
May 21 2013 02:36 GMT
#31
This is the first dota video I ever watched. I have no idea what was happening but it did look pretty!
Sucker for nostalgia
figq
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
12519 Posts
May 21 2013 02:57 GMT
#32
Keep in mind this game is still in beta. Once out, it should burn the earth under the feet of any "similar" games.
If you stand next to my head, you can hear the ocean. - Day[9]
ETisME
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
12488 Posts
May 21 2013 03:01 GMT
#33
On May 21 2013 11:57 figq wrote:
Keep in mind this game is still in beta. Once out, it should burn the earth under the feet of any "similar" games.

it's kinda complete, isn't it? I don't see why it is still in beta stage when pros can already play competitive games on it
其疾如风,其徐如林,侵掠如火,不动如山,难知如阴,动如雷震。
figq
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
12519 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-21 04:03:38
May 21 2013 03:27 GMT
#34
On May 21 2013 12:01 ETisME wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2013 11:57 figq wrote:
Keep in mind this game is still in beta. Once out, it should burn the earth under the feet of any "similar" games.

it's kinda complete, isn't it? I don't see why it is still in beta stage when pros can already play competitive games on it
Some heroes are still missing and many details still need polishing. They are even working on some single player campaign to introduce new players. Most of all, the game is not as available and marketed as it would be when out. Casuals don't investigate that currently beta keys are super easy to find (practically everywhere).
If you stand next to my head, you can hear the ocean. - Day[9]
doner0
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States233 Posts
May 21 2013 03:53 GMT
#35
so well made, well done sir!
caelym
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States6421 Posts
May 21 2013 04:25 GMT
#36
On May 21 2013 12:27 figq wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2013 12:01 ETisME wrote:
On May 21 2013 11:57 figq wrote:
Keep in mind this game is still in beta. Once out, it should burn the earth under the feet of any "similar" games.

it's kinda complete, isn't it? I don't see why it is still in beta stage when pros can already play competitive games on it
Some heroes are still missing and many details still need polishing. They are even working on some single player campaign to introduce new players. Most of all, the game is not as available and marketed as it would be when out. Casuals don't investigate that currently beta keys are super easy to find (practically everywhere).

casuals don't play dota
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figq
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
12519 Posts
May 21 2013 04:50 GMT
#37
On May 21 2013 13:25 caelym wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2013 12:27 figq wrote:
On May 21 2013 12:01 ETisME wrote:
On May 21 2013 11:57 figq wrote:
Keep in mind this game is still in beta. Once out, it should burn the earth under the feet of any "similar" games.

it's kinda complete, isn't it? I don't see why it is still in beta stage when pros can already play competitive games on it
Some heroes are still missing and many details still need polishing. They are even working on some single player campaign to introduce new players. Most of all, the game is not as available and marketed as it would be when out. Casuals don't investigate that currently beta keys are super easy to find (practically everywhere).

casuals don't play dota
they will
If you stand next to my head, you can hear the ocean. - Day[9]
SilentchiLL
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany1405 Posts
May 21 2013 06:15 GMT
#38
On May 21 2013 03:03 Apom wrote:
Well I don't know shit about Dota (only played a few SotiS games back then), but big guy with two swords looks kinda OP.


"I don't know shit about dota, but let me judge an entire hero from one short fight."
Well that's just.... lol
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Jragon
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia1471 Posts
May 21 2013 07:28 GMT
#39
Very nice. What's the music?
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SamsungStar
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States912 Posts
May 21 2013 08:24 GMT
#40
The sequencing of stuns to literally silence/stun magnus out for over 10 seconds was incredible play by Mouz.
sluggaslamoo
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Australia4494 Posts
May 21 2013 10:52 GMT
#41
This is awesome kinda reminds me of this one

Come play Android Netrunner - http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=409008
isleyofthenorth
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Austria894 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-21 14:57:35
May 21 2013 14:56 GMT
#42
Moba is what the lol devs called their game. the genre is called "Dota" (maybe "AoS")

also moba means multiplayer battle arena i think?

But then Bloodline Champions fits it much better than dota or lol
Zealos
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom3576 Posts
May 21 2013 15:01 GMT
#43
On May 21 2013 05:03 Rimstalker wrote:
you had to use music that is under copyright so that pretty much all Germans can't watch it? :/

Yeah, he chose that music to spite the Germans. Fuck them.
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Shinbi
Profile Joined December 2009
338 Posts
May 21 2013 15:08 GMT
#44
On May 21 2013 16:28 Jragon wrote:
Very nice. What's the music?


Song is M83 - You, Appearing.
OmniEulogy
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada6592 Posts
May 21 2013 15:21 GMT
#45
On May 21 2013 23:56 isleyofthenorth wrote:
Moba is what the lol devs called their game. the genre is called "Dota" (maybe "AoS")

also moba means multiplayer battle arena i think?

But then Bloodline Champions fits it much better than dota or lol


I love you ^^ MOBA was coined by a guy who was hated in the DotA community... still don't know how it stuck oh well.

Also you left out the best part in the video! Synderen running into the wall and dying after DD gets wiped lol
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520
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2822 Posts
May 21 2013 15:29 GMT
#46
You can increase the view range, keep the camera fixed, and shoot the video twice - once with HUD and once without. The Roshan pit area is small enough and the fight contained enough that you can view from farther out without losing the detail that makes the video beautiful, in my opinion.
Writer
Aterons_toss
Profile Joined February 2011
Romania1275 Posts
May 21 2013 17:02 GMT
#47
Reminds me a bit of wow kill video. That is why i always liked dota, that wow feel of teaming and synchronizing is just something else... sadly it never fucking happens when I play ( or it does, but too rarely ) so I just stopped. I really hope someone will make a moba game that can be played 1v1 ( maybe 3 heroes only or something around those lines ) I would play the shit out of that :p
A good strategy means leaving your opponent room to make mistakes
Kittan
Profile Joined April 2012
Poland3999 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-21 17:43:49
May 21 2013 17:43 GMT
#48
Nicely done. I was able to see it live. Dota 2 best dota-like game.

Although The Play is still my favourite slow motion Dota moment.
Edit: Already linked at the top of the page. Watch it twice!
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MattBarry
Profile Joined March 2011
United States4006 Posts
May 21 2013 18:44 GMT
#49
On May 21 2013 23:56 isleyofthenorth wrote:
Moba is what the lol devs called their game. the genre is called "Dota" (maybe "AoS")

also moba means multiplayer battle arena i think?

But then Bloodline Champions fits it much better than dota or lol

Who cares. Just call it a moba for the sake of easy categorization.
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d_so
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Korea (South)3262 Posts
May 21 2013 20:16 GMT
#50
On May 22 2013 00:21 OmniEulogy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2013 23:56 isleyofthenorth wrote:
Moba is what the lol devs called their game. the genre is called "Dota" (maybe "AoS")

also moba means multiplayer battle arena i think?

But then Bloodline Champions fits it much better than dota or lol


I love you ^^ MOBA was coined by a guy who was hated in the DotA community... still don't know how it stuck oh well.

Also you left out the best part in the video! Synderen running into the wall and dying after DD gets wiped lol


Hunter
manner
RoyGBiv_13
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1275 Posts
May 21 2013 21:01 GMT
#51
On May 22 2013 03:44 MattBarry wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2013 23:56 isleyofthenorth wrote:
Moba is what the lol devs called their game. the genre is called "Dota" (maybe "AoS")

also moba means multiplayer battle arena i think?

But then Bloodline Champions fits it much better than dota or lol

Who cares. Just call it a moba for the sake of easy categorization.


Naming things is important, and many people care. Dota fans are generally (sorry for the bad word) okay with being lumped into the same category has LoL, but we have a huge problem with the name.

Riot has a history of coining stupid marketing terms that mean almost nothing:
+ Show Spoiler +

MOBA
Toxic
Roles
etc...
Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic
AnomalySC2
Profile Joined August 2012
United States2073 Posts
May 22 2013 00:08 GMT
#52
On May 22 2013 06:01 RoyGBiv_13 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2013 03:44 MattBarry wrote:
On May 21 2013 23:56 isleyofthenorth wrote:
Moba is what the lol devs called their game. the genre is called "Dota" (maybe "AoS")

also moba means multiplayer battle arena i think?

But then Bloodline Champions fits it much better than dota or lol

Who cares. Just call it a moba for the sake of easy categorization.


Naming things is important, and many people care. Dota fans are generally (sorry for the bad word) okay with being lumped into the same category has LoL, but we have a huge problem with the name.

Riot has a history of coining stupid marketing terms that mean almost nothing:
+ Show Spoiler +

MOBA
Toxic
Roles
etc...


Are you denying that basic roles don't exist in Moba or something?
WolfintheSheep
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada14127 Posts
May 22 2013 00:09 GMT
#53
On May 21 2013 23:56 isleyofthenorth wrote:
Moba is what the lol devs called their game. the genre is called "Dota" (maybe "AoS")

also moba means multiplayer battle arena i think?

But then Bloodline Champions fits it much better than dota or lol


As much as people might hate the term MOBA, calling a genre "DotA" or "AoS" is the stupidest idea imaginable.

"I'm playing a Mario (sidescrolling platformer)." "Oh, that game is a Quake (FPS)." "I wish a company would make a good FZero (racing game)".
Average means I'm better than half of you.
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
May 22 2013 00:44 GMT
#54
On May 22 2013 09:09 WolfintheSheep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2013 23:56 isleyofthenorth wrote:
Moba is what the lol devs called their game. the genre is called "Dota" (maybe "AoS")

also moba means multiplayer battle arena i think?

But then Bloodline Champions fits it much better than dota or lol


As much as people might hate the term MOBA, calling a genre "DotA" or "AoS" is the stupidest idea imaginable.

"I'm playing a Mario (sidescrolling platformer)." "Oh, that game is a Quake (FPS)." "I wish a company would make a good FZero (racing game)".

AoS was the standby and was even used early on by Riot as well. (like beta and re-release).
MattBarry
Profile Joined March 2011
United States4006 Posts
May 22 2013 01:15 GMT
#55
On May 22 2013 09:44 PrinceXizor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2013 09:09 WolfintheSheep wrote:
On May 21 2013 23:56 isleyofthenorth wrote:
Moba is what the lol devs called their game. the genre is called "Dota" (maybe "AoS")

also moba means multiplayer battle arena i think?

But then Bloodline Champions fits it much better than dota or lol


As much as people might hate the term MOBA, calling a genre "DotA" or "AoS" is the stupidest idea imaginable.

"I'm playing a Mario (sidescrolling platformer)." "Oh, that game is a Quake (FPS)." "I wish a company would make a good FZero (racing game)".

AoS was the standby and was even used early on by Riot as well. (like beta and re-release).

My personal favorite name is Aeon of Strife Styled Fortress Assault Game. ASSFAG for short
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WolfintheSheep
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada14127 Posts
May 22 2013 02:20 GMT
#56
On May 22 2013 09:44 PrinceXizor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2013 09:09 WolfintheSheep wrote:
On May 21 2013 23:56 isleyofthenorth wrote:
Moba is what the lol devs called their game. the genre is called "Dota" (maybe "AoS")

also moba means multiplayer battle arena i think?

But then Bloodline Champions fits it much better than dota or lol


As much as people might hate the term MOBA, calling a genre "DotA" or "AoS" is the stupidest idea imaginable.

"I'm playing a Mario (sidescrolling platformer)." "Oh, that game is a Quake (FPS)." "I wish a company would make a good FZero (racing game)".

AoS was the standby and was even used early on by Riot as well. (like beta and re-release).

Just because it was a standby doesn't mean it's not stupid.

Apparently DotA 2 is a game about Protoss history, if the genre "Aeon of Strife" remotely describes the gameplay.
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PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
May 22 2013 02:36 GMT
#57
On May 22 2013 11:20 WolfintheSheep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2013 09:44 PrinceXizor wrote:
On May 22 2013 09:09 WolfintheSheep wrote:
On May 21 2013 23:56 isleyofthenorth wrote:
Moba is what the lol devs called their game. the genre is called "Dota" (maybe "AoS")

also moba means multiplayer battle arena i think?

But then Bloodline Champions fits it much better than dota or lol


As much as people might hate the term MOBA, calling a genre "DotA" or "AoS" is the stupidest idea imaginable.

"I'm playing a Mario (sidescrolling platformer)." "Oh, that game is a Quake (FPS)." "I wish a company would make a good FZero (racing game)".

AoS was the standby and was even used early on by Riot as well. (like beta and re-release).

Just because it was a standby doesn't mean it's not stupid.

Apparently DotA 2 is a game about Protoss history, if the genre "Aeon of Strife" remotely describes the gameplay.

except like comparisons are how people relate information.

if i ask you to describe Dune you'd say "it's like starcraft 1" not its an "rts"

its human speech, and thus makes sense. to be honest it makes no says to say "this game is an rts" you'd have to say "this is an rts game" which isn't even commonly used. it's completely acceptable to say AoS to describe the genre, Dota-clone also works since most games tried to emulate dota after dota got big. but that isn't acceptable for groups of maps within the genre that were in dev concurrently with dota, so we say AoS.

If i ask you to describe what a soft drink tastes like you'd say "tastes liek coke/pepsi" not "its a cola"
GogoKodo
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Canada1785 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-22 03:22:26
May 22 2013 03:21 GMT
#58
On May 22 2013 11:36 PrinceXizor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2013 11:20 WolfintheSheep wrote:
On May 22 2013 09:44 PrinceXizor wrote:
On May 22 2013 09:09 WolfintheSheep wrote:
On May 21 2013 23:56 isleyofthenorth wrote:
Moba is what the lol devs called their game. the genre is called "Dota" (maybe "AoS")

also moba means multiplayer battle arena i think?

But then Bloodline Champions fits it much better than dota or lol


As much as people might hate the term MOBA, calling a genre "DotA" or "AoS" is the stupidest idea imaginable.

"I'm playing a Mario (sidescrolling platformer)." "Oh, that game is a Quake (FPS)." "I wish a company would make a good FZero (racing game)".

AoS was the standby and was even used early on by Riot as well. (like beta and re-release).

Just because it was a standby doesn't mean it's not stupid.

Apparently DotA 2 is a game about Protoss history, if the genre "Aeon of Strife" remotely describes the gameplay.

except like comparisons are how people relate information.

if i ask you to describe Dune you'd say "it's like starcraft 1" not its an "rts"

its human speech, and thus makes sense. to be honest it makes no says to say "this game is an rts" you'd have to say "this is an rts game" which isn't even commonly used. it's completely acceptable to say AoS to describe the genre, Dota-clone also works since most games tried to emulate dota after dota got big. but that isn't acceptable for groups of maps within the genre that were in dev concurrently with dota, so we say AoS.

If i ask you to describe what a soft drink tastes like you'd say "tastes liek coke/pepsi" not "its a cola"

Genre names are also a thing people use to relate information. Sure it's not specific or detailed but it's definitely used.
What kind of movie is it? Comedy.
What kind of book is it? Sci-fi.
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PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-22 03:32:49
May 22 2013 03:32 GMT
#59
On May 22 2013 12:21 GogoKodo wrote:
Genre names are also a thing people use to relate information. Sure it's not specific or detailed but it's definitely used.
What kind of movie is it? Comedy.
What kind of book is it? Sci-fi.

I don't think anyone in the history of movies or books has been satisfied and understanding of the topic with just one of those words.

calling a game "mutliplayer online battle arena" literally applies to everything. CoD is a MOBA, LoL is a MOBA, DOTA is a MOBA, Halo is a MOBA, Worms armageddon is a MOBA, Starcraft 2 is a MOBA. :/

not that any of this is on topic. though try what was suggested above by zooming out the cam a bit so it doesn't have to move, so you can record it twice.
WolfintheSheep
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada14127 Posts
May 22 2013 03:33 GMT
#60
On May 22 2013 12:32 PrinceXizor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2013 12:21 GogoKodo wrote:
Genre names are also a thing people use to relate information. Sure it's not specific or detailed but it's definitely used.
What kind of movie is it? Comedy.
What kind of book is it? Sci-fi.

I don't think anyone in the history of movies or books has been satisfied and understanding of the topic with just one of those words.

calling a game "mutliplayer online battle arena" literally applies to everything. CoD is a MOBA, LoL is a MOBA, DOTA is a MOBA, Halo is a MOBA, Worms armageddon is a MOBA, Starcraft 2 is a MOBA. :/

Which still does not change the fact that calling a genre DotA or AoS is even worse.
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sluggaslamoo
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Australia4494 Posts
May 22 2013 03:33 GMT
#61
Guys, please shut the fuck up

Sorry I just lost so many IQ points from seeing this last debate I couldn't think of a better phrase. Don't ruin a great OP with this trash.
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jubil
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States2602 Posts
May 22 2013 03:55 GMT
#62
Guess I still have some WoW instincts in me (used to watch a ton of WoW pvp videos) because when I saw Magnus get stunned my first thought was "he's about to die and he needs to get off his RP....he has to trinket asap!" (In WoW pvp every player has an item (trinket) that breaks all CC on you, on a 2 min cooldown)

Great video, nice music choice too
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Doomblaze
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States1292 Posts
May 22 2013 05:06 GMT
#63
On May 22 2013 12:32 PrinceXizor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2013 12:21 GogoKodo wrote:
Genre names are also a thing people use to relate information. Sure it's not specific or detailed but it's definitely used.
What kind of movie is it? Comedy.
What kind of book is it? Sci-fi.

I don't think anyone in the history of movies or books has been satisfied and understanding of the topic with just one of those words.

calling a game "mutliplayer online battle arena" literally applies to everything. CoD is a MOBA, LoL is a MOBA, DOTA is a MOBA, Halo is a MOBA, Worms armageddon is a MOBA, Starcraft 2 is a MOBA. :/

not that any of this is on topic. though try what was suggested above by zooming out the cam a bit so it doesn't have to move, so you can record it twice.


I was gonna say exactly this. DotA is a beautiful game, aesthetically and strategically.
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DCLXVI
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States729 Posts
May 22 2013 05:32 GMT
#64
Is the full game uploaded somewhere?
I can already see the ending
Yurie
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
11904 Posts
May 22 2013 05:35 GMT
#65
On May 22 2013 14:32 DCLXVI wrote:
Is the full game uploaded somewhere?


You can watch it for free in the Dota 2 client. Other than that yes, but I havn't looked up where.
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
May 22 2013 05:36 GMT
#66
On May 22 2013 14:32 DCLXVI wrote:
Is the full game uploaded somewhere?

http://www.twitch.tv/thegdstudio
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Rainling
Profile Joined June 2011
United States456 Posts
May 22 2013 06:26 GMT
#67
On May 21 2013 19:52 sluggaslamoo wrote:
This is awesome kinda reminds me of this one

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mahHF8dIeVg

So pretty O.o
Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-22 08:58:41
May 22 2013 08:56 GMT
#68
On May 22 2013 09:09 WolfintheSheep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2013 23:56 isleyofthenorth wrote:
Moba is what the lol devs called their game. the genre is called "Dota" (maybe "AoS")

also moba means multiplayer battle arena i think?

But then Bloodline Champions fits it much better than dota or lol


As much as people might hate the term MOBA, calling a genre "DotA" or "AoS" is the stupidest idea imaginable.

"I'm playing a Mario (sidescrolling platformer)." "Oh, that game is a Quake (FPS)." "I wish a company would make a good FZero (racing game)".

Meanwhile games that copy Rogue are called Rogue-likes and nobody seems to mind.


Also, watching gameplay in slow-motion is something i quite enjoy.
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Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-22 09:52:54
May 22 2013 09:52 GMT
#69
Genre and subgenre names are usually coined and/or adopted by the media, and once they're there, they stick.

Most of game genre names are terribly inappropriate and don't represent the games at all, but people get used to calling them that after a while anyway (because everybody else does).
Nisyax
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Netherlands756 Posts
May 22 2013 10:41 GMT
#70
Oh yea I saw this, was wondering why the lina died after (wasn't paying that much attention) :p Too bad about the bear dying and rolling into the wall in the beginning.
KurtistheTurtle
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States1966 Posts
May 22 2013 15:05 GMT
#71
On May 22 2013 03:44 MattBarry wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2013 23:56 isleyofthenorth wrote:
Moba is what the lol devs called their game. the genre is called "Dota" (maybe "AoS")

also moba means multiplayer battle arena i think?

But then Bloodline Champions fits it much better than dota or lol

Who cares. Just call it a moba for the sake of easy categorization.

No. I still call it dota because that's how I started saying it.

saw this live but didn't even realize half the things that went on!
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ACrow
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany6583 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-22 18:37:35
May 22 2013 18:36 GMT
#72
Hm, as someone who doesn't care and doesn't know anything about MOBAs (or Dotas or w/e), this video doesn't do anything to convince me that Dota is a beautiful game (I know, it probably wasn't your intention to convince others, but still, the title lured me here and made me watch the video).
For me it looked similar to a WoW 5 man arena with both sides trying to land some kind of stunlock and then killing each other, very slow, with melodramatic music. Not unlike WoW pvp vods. Sure, there is a big NPC monster that the both sides are dancing around. Fantastic.

Also, there is a dude in an airplane. Which is like the most appalling thing in a fantasy setting ever, stylistically speaking.
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PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
May 22 2013 22:59 GMT
#73
On May 23 2013 03:36 ACrow wrote:
Hm, as someone who doesn't care and doesn't know anything about MOBAs (or Dotas or w/e), this video doesn't do anything to convince me that Dota is a beautiful game (I know, it probably wasn't your intention to convince others, but still, the title lured me here and made me watch the video).
For me it looked similar to a WoW 5 man arena with both sides trying to land some kind of stunlock and then killing each other, very slow, with melodramatic music. Not unlike WoW pvp vods. Sure, there is a big NPC monster that the both sides are dancing around. Fantastic.

Also, there is a dude in an airplane. Which is like the most appalling thing in a fantasy setting ever, stylistically speaking.

YEah warcraft 3 was pretty appalling stylistically.
Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-22 23:04:57
May 22 2013 23:04 GMT
#74
Steampunk elements (races, factions) are pretty common and present in a lot of fantasy settings nowadays. One could even say they've become too common. You can almost be certain that Dwarf or Gnome-like races are going to have guns and flying machines of some variety.

If anything, it's unoriginal, but it can hardly be called appalling.
KurtistheTurtle
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States1966 Posts
May 23 2013 03:48 GMT
#75
On May 23 2013 03:36 ACrow wrote:
Also, there is a dude in an airplane. Which is like the most appalling thing in a fantasy setting ever, stylistically speaking.

what!? go away I don't want your fantasy!
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