EPTI Hate Coffee? - Page 3
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isleyofthenorth
Austria894 Posts
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Race is Terran
United States382 Posts
On June 16 2013 10:57 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: But what incentive is there to start in the first place? If I could tell you there was this magic liquid that acts as a performance enhancer if drinked, would that be something you might be interested in? | ||
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zergnewb
United States816 Posts
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[UoN]Sentinel
United States11320 Posts
On June 16 2013 11:42 Race is Terran wrote: If I could tell you there was this magic liquid that acts as a performance enhancer if drinked, would that be something you might be interested in? Considering there's better tasting liquids that enhance performance, not really. | ||
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Djzapz
Canada10681 Posts
If you need to push your limit a little, and this is going to sound silly but bear with me... If you live in a safe neighborhood, go outside and jog - don't get yourself to sweat, just get the blood pumping, it should give you a second wind. It should take just a few minutes, if that. Fresh nighttime air feels good too. If you can't go outside for whatever reason, run up and down the stairs just for a few seconds. This is not a workout - you don't want to get anywhere close to your limit. Then as a last resort, there are energy drinks, as mentioned a bunch of times, but just don't make an habit of it. You never want to study until 4AM unless it's an emergency for some reason... When you get to your exam, if at all possible, you want to be prepared AND you want to have the hours of sleep that you need. People don't realize that their performance dips when they're tired from studying too much or when they're too "hyper" from caffeine, which also makes you anxious and stressed out, which in turns makes you forget all your shit  | ||
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GTPGlitch
5061 Posts
All the sweet, none of the bitter Easily made~ | ||
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ninazerg
United States7291 Posts
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LaNague
Germany9118 Posts
Using energy drinks and stuff is not neccessary, there is no need to exhaust your body just to stay awake one more hour. Just go to sleep, a very tired brain makes as much mistakes as a drunk one, btw. | ||
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Disregard
China10252 Posts
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Chef
10810 Posts
If you don't like the taste of coffee, you shouldn't drink it. It stains your teeth and it develops dependency. If you do, caffeine isn't the worst thing in the world as long as you have it at a habitual time and not in huge doses. If you want to stay away till 4am like your friends, just sleep in till 11am ;p It is really not useful to stay up longer than you usually do, since cutting into sleep just means significantly lower performance both the day you are working and the day after. Always get a good rest before you have a test, and you'll do way better. Really you should be thankful you don't stay up till 4am, cause that's pretty much insomnia if you don't sleep in. | ||
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FallDownMarigold
United States3710 Posts
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Megaliskuu
United States5123 Posts
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ZERG_RUSSIAN
10417 Posts
On May 18 2013 12:18 MountainDewJunkie wrote: You get more energy from eating an apple. And it's caffeine free! - Signed, a guy addicted to coffee Caloric content is not a good measure of energy when we're talking about neurotransmitters and receptors. | ||
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ZERG_RUSSIAN
10417 Posts
On June 17 2013 00:38 Chef wrote: Regular use of caffeine offers no advantage. People who regularly consume caffeine REQUIRE the caffeine to operate at the same functionality as someone who never has it. This is because the brain adapts to it (aka tolerance) and normalizes itself. If it doesn't get the caffeine, then you get withdrawal and you're even worse off. Heightened energy and the like are from the first few uses (not of your life, but after your brain has stopped thinking it will get any) when the brain isn't expecting it. While this is true in some sense, a tolerance to caffeine does not mean that you go so far below that an average dose of caffeine will only "normalize" your brain. You still get positive effects, it just takes slightly more to get above that threshold. Drinking coffee will not ruin your brain by any means and this is a severe overestimation of the effects of caffeine "withdrawal". | ||
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Chef
10810 Posts
On June 17 2013 06:49 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote: While this is true in some sense, a tolerance to caffeine does not mean that you go so far below that an average dose of caffeine will only "normalize" your brain. You still get positive effects, it just takes slightly more to get above that threshold. Drinking coffee will not ruin your brain by any means and this is a severe overestimation of the effects of caffeine "withdrawal". http://lifehacker.com/5585217/what-caffeine-actually-does-to-your-brain This is one of many things I've read about the topic, but gives a pretty good summary of the overall issues surrounding caffeine. Comments admittedly point out that much of the data is not recent, but it's pretty hard to refute studies that test people who don't use coffee and people who regularly use coffee. Performance is not too hard to test. Normalize is not a real scientific term, but I mean that your brain adapts to the chemicals within it. I'm not gonna pretend I'm a neurologist, but this is not super specialized knowledge. Most people are at least aware that this is why the phenomenons of tolerance and withdrawal exist. I won't deny a certain placebo effect from getting what you want, and comfort of your regular cup of joe, but it's silly to deny that if you have that every day at the same time your brain hasn't changed the way it works. Caffeine withdrawal can be pretty bad if you go from having a lot to having none at all. Severe headache and irritability, sometimes real health concerns. At lot of people have 5 or 6 cups of coffee in a day and that's enough to be very painful if you go cold turkey a few days. Of course your individual experience may differ ;p | ||
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SomethingWitty
Canada94 Posts
On June 17 2013 09:08 Chef wrote: http://lifehacker.com/5585217/what-caffeine-actually-does-to-your-brain This is one of many things I've read about the topic, but gives a pretty good summary of the overall issues surrounding caffeine. Comments admittedly point out that much of the data is not recent, but it's pretty hard to refute studies that test people who don't use coffee and people who regularly use coffee. Performance is not too hard to test. Normalize is not a real scientific term, but I mean that your brain adapts to the chemicals within it. I'm not gonna pretend I'm a neurologist, but this is not super specialized knowledge. Most people are at least aware that this is why the phenomenons of tolerance and withdrawal exist. I won't deny a certain placebo effect from getting what you want, and comfort of your regular cup of joe, but it's silly to deny that if you have that every day at the same time your brain hasn't changed the way it works. Caffeine withdrawal can be pretty bad if you go from having a lot to having none at all. Severe headache and irritability, sometimes real health concerns. At lot of people have 5 or 6 cups of coffee in a day and that's enough to be very painful if you go cold turkey a few days. Of course your individual experience may differ ;p Pretty bad compared to what exactly? | ||
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Djzapz
Canada10681 Posts
Caffeine withdrawal can be pretty bad in comparison to "no caffeine withdrawal"? Sounds like a reasonable assertion to me. All things in moderation. | ||
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ZERG_RUSSIAN
10417 Posts
On June 17 2013 09:08 Chef wrote: http://lifehacker.com/5585217/what-caffeine-actually-does-to-your-brain This is one of many things I've read about the topic, but gives a pretty good summary of the overall issues surrounding caffeine. Comments admittedly point out that much of the data is not recent, but it's pretty hard to refute studies that test people who don't use coffee and people who regularly use coffee. Performance is not too hard to test. Normalize is not a real scientific term, but I mean that your brain adapts to the chemicals within it. I'm not gonna pretend I'm a neurologist, but this is not super specialized knowledge. Most people are at least aware that this is why the phenomenons of tolerance and withdrawal exist. I won't deny a certain placebo effect from getting what you want, and comfort of your regular cup of joe, but it's silly to deny that if you have that every day at the same time your brain hasn't changed the way it works. Caffeine withdrawal can be pretty bad if you go from having a lot to having none at all. Severe headache and irritability, sometimes real health concerns. At lot of people have 5 or 6 cups of coffee in a day and that's enough to be very painful if you go cold turkey a few days. Of course your individual experience may differ ;p (PS I am a doctoral student in a clinical psychology program and I've done research papers on caffeine and nicotine) People severely exaggerate the addictive potential of caffeine. There are actual drugs of addiction out there (and again, i'm not saying caffeine doesn't have a withdrawal, i just personally think it's a pussy one) and caffeine does not effect change on your synapse like crack or similar drugs do. Also like if you cold turkey for two weeks you generally return to baseline levels AND caffeine has positive long-term effects in addition to its negative ones. | ||
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Chef
10810 Posts
To qualify caffeine withdrawal as pussy withdrawal is really weird and obnoxious. Of course quitting heroine or the like is gonna give you more than a headache. But I don't think headaches feel good just because there are worse things. Pretty bad compared to what exactly? Pretty bad compared to not having a headache, being irritable, being tired, etc. Try an experiment yourself if you want. Drink 6 cups of coffee a day for a month and then suddenly quit. You can assess for yourself if you think it is a slight annoyance or something that really disrupts your ability to work productively and enjoy socializing. I'm not saying quitting caffeine is an intolerable experience, and you can actually avoid most of the withdrawal by just halving your intake every day until you're having none. It's certainly not as hard as quitting smoking or something like that if you don't have an emotional attachment to it. I'm just saying you're gonna be a real grumpy bear. If you're the type to have espressos from morning till night, you might be more than a grumpy bear ;p So I don't really understand why we're suddenly talking about illegal drugs and comparing caffeine to them. Of course there is no comparison in terms of damage you can do to your body. | ||
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SomethingWitty
Canada94 Posts
On June 17 2013 23:38 Chef wrote: I never said caffeine was like cocaine lol. I did know that you can get back to normal pretty quickly. To qualify caffeine withdrawal as pussy withdrawal is really weird and obnoxious. Of course quitting heroine or the like is gonna give you more than a headache. But I don't think headaches feel good just because there are worse things. Pretty bad compared to not having a headache, being irritable, being tired, etc. Try an experiment yourself if you want. Drink 6 cups of coffee a day for a month and then suddenly quit. You can assess for yourself if you think it is a slight annoyance or something that really disrupts your ability to work productively and enjoy socializing. I'm not saying quitting caffeine is an intolerable experience, and you can actually avoid most of the withdrawal by just halving your intake every day until you're having none. It's certainly not as hard as quitting smoking or something like that if you don't have an emotional attachment to it. I'm just saying you're gonna be a real grumpy bear. If you're the type to have espressos from morning till night, you might be more than a grumpy bear ;p So I don't really understand why we're suddenly talking about illegal drugs and comparing caffeine to them. Of course there is no comparison in terms of damage you can do to your body. I was having a caffeine intake of around 4 cups of coffee and day and I stopped cold turkey and I felt slightly more irritable with a light headache. It wasn't bad whatsoever, stopping amphetamines cold turkey was pretty uncomfortable. Stopping 360mg of codeine a day was slightly worse. Beznodiazepine withdrawal was unarguably the worst thing I can imagine experiencing. | ||
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