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On September 22 2013 21:03 Yoshi- wrote:Show nested quote +On September 22 2013 20:11 MapleLeafSirup wrote:the opponents of the afd like to claim that they would be right that is common fashion in germany, the words "right" and "nazi" are thrown around all the time, i am tired of that. especially for the left-party (die linke) - whoever does not share their opinion is automatically a nazi (thats exaggerated of course but i think you get what i meant) On September 22 2013 19:54 Mataza wrote:On September 22 2013 19:28 PraefektMotus wrote:
So, just voted AfD. Time to shake things up a little bit. You just want to watch the world burn. Be honest. Reintroducing the mark, stopping many obligations we have with the EU. No one can tell where that will lead. "reintroducing the mark" sorry but this is plain wrong. it is a shame that many people are so uninformed. the afd sees this as the worst case scenario. they do want to keep the EURO, just not the way it is now. Oh yea instead of going back to the old currency that only germany uses, they want to kick out everyother country from the euro, so that only germany got the Euro, that such a difference
Well, technically the Netherlands and Finland are also wealthy enough to keep the Euro, so we'll just make a currency union with those two countrys and all will be fine 
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...or maybe we have a history with the right wing in which we learnt that its totalitarian demeanor and national egoism leads only to destruction and damages a society.
Why is it that whenever I write a stereotype about the Germans, some German always tries argues the point by incarnating that very stereotype?
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Is there a fixed time when the first preliminary results will be out?
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On September 22 2013 21:10 MoltkeWarding wrote:Show nested quote +...or maybe we have a history with the right wing in which we learnt that its totalitarian demeanor and national egoism leads only to destruction and damages a society. Why is it that whenever I write a stereotype about the Germans, some German always tries argues the point by incarnating that very stereotype?
I don't know, maybe because you try to be provocative without actually knowing much about our history or poilitics? Just a guess without knowing much about you. Here, have a smiley: 
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On September 22 2013 21:14 JustPassingBy wrote:
Is there a fixed time when the first preliminary results will be out?
After the voting is over 6pm
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On September 22 2013 21:17 Yoshi- wrote:Show nested quote +On September 22 2013 21:14 JustPassingBy wrote:
Is there a fixed time when the first preliminary results will be out? After the voting is over 6pm
But don't they also make polls at the venue? Shouldn't they get somewhat accurate projections from them?
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On September 22 2013 21:22 JustPassingBy wrote:Show nested quote +On September 22 2013 21:17 Yoshi- wrote:On September 22 2013 21:14 JustPassingBy wrote:
Is there a fixed time when the first preliminary results will be out? After the voting is over 6pm But don't they also make polls at the venue? Shouldn't they get somewhat accurate projections from them?
they are not allowed to publish anything before 6pm
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Hey, ACrow, did you know that Germany had a history prior to 1933, that in the 19th century "national egoism" was mostly propagated by the left and that the forces of peace in Germany were largely those of the authoritarian right? True story.
I have never gone through the German school system, but I have sat beside history Lehramt students who are going to be responsible for moulding the souls of the following generation. Lord preserve us all.
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Put my first vote (personal) to the SPD, second vote (party) to the Pirate Party
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Do excuse us Moltke. There are many more germans than that one stereotype you encountered in a thread full of germans.
As for history it is largely irrelevant as german politics nowadays move slow as molasses, much like I expect many other nations politics to be.
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On September 22 2013 21:40 Mataza wrote:
Do excuse us Moltke. There are many more germans than that one stereotype you encountered in a thread full of germans.
As for history it is largely irrelevant as german politics nowadays move slow as molasses, much like I expect many other nations politics to be.
Did not Heinrich Heine already write about this in the 1840s?
How can you folks maintain consistency in your fears of deja vu when they keep coming back to the same premises?
If I can sum up my argument in one laconic sentence it is this: Learning only one thing from history is worse than learning nothing from history.
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On September 22 2013 21:22 JustPassingBy wrote:Show nested quote +On September 22 2013 21:17 Yoshi- wrote:On September 22 2013 21:14 JustPassingBy wrote:
Is there a fixed time when the first preliminary results will be out? After the voting is over 6pm But don't they also make polls at the venue? Shouldn't they get somewhat accurate projections from them?
They have to wait until 18:00, until they can publish anything, because a result estimation before 18:00 might influence people, who did´nt vote until that time. At 18:00 you can not vote anymore, so the results can be published.
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i cant wrap my mind around the fact that educated people vote for the AfD.... might as well be voting for the NPD, since the AfD attracts a lot of frustrated NPD politicians.
but seems like being anti-everything is something very popular these days. Not coming up with solutions but rather hating everything and wanting to convert back to the middle ages seems appealing to some? weird.
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Be aware that the first numbers at 6 p.m. are only estimations based on people who are asked what they voted for. After that, at about 6:15 there will be the first numbers which are also (but not exclusivly) are based on actual counted votes.
To the Euro: I think the statement of the afd is, that the euro must work in a way that we dont avoid the "no bail out clause", so that every state is responsible for their own household. They only want to kick states or in worst case reintroduce the DM if the other countries do not agree to that.
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So I gave my vote to the SPD, first time I can vote in the elections. Pretty excited about 6pm, a lot of upsets could happen
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On September 22 2013 21:47 Maxhster wrote:
i cant wrap my mind around the fact that educated people vote for the AfD.... might as well be voting for the NPD, since the AfD attracts a lot of frustrated NPD politicians.
but seems like being anti-everything is something very popular these days. Not coming up with solutions but rather hating everything and wanting to convert back to the middle ages seems appealing to some? weird.
They aren't really educated:
http://afdwaehlerstellensichvor.tumblr.com/
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On September 22 2013 21:46 MoltkeWarding wrote:
If I can sum up my argument in one laconic sentence it is this: Learning only one thing from history is worse than learning nothing from history.
why is learning one thing from history worse than learning nothing?
i mean, it is not like germany is going to be communistic leaded, soon(TM).
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I voted Pirate Party again, the same as 4 years ago.
Though they may have no chance, it's still better to vote according to your belief, than to vote a party that will certainly make it. Only this way, the democratic system can continue to work well.
Will be pretty exciting to watch, if the AfD will make it. Some more democratic plurality in the parliament would be good.
I will never understand, how anyone can vote CDU/Union after the recent NSA scandals and how Merkel is doing nothing against it...
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On September 22 2013 22:30 Caladan wrote:
I will never understand, how anyone can vote CDU/Union after the recent NSA scandals and how Merkel is doing nothing against it...
Hello, unknown brother.
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On September 22 2013 22:30 Caladan wrote:
I will never understand, how anyone can vote CDU/Union after the recent NSA scandals and how Merkel is doing nothing against it...
Because contrary to the believes of some people, the entire nsa scandal is pretty much irrelevant and most people simply doesn't care because it really isn't anything to care about
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