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Acurus
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Norway32 Posts
April 05 2013 03:58 GMT
#1
This is part of a longer blog series I am writing. Where I am trying to figure out why I often gg and leave the game way to early. There are also a few other spin-off effects I hope to get out of it.

Read the whole thing here :
http://www.teamliquid.net/blog/Acurus

Day 3.

Only played 4 games tonight, as I had to watch me some GSL :D
Roro was pretty sick!
As for me, not so sick tonight.

As for blaging, I only want to write about one game tonight.
A ZvP on Neoplanet

You can watch the game from my POV if you take pleasure in such things.

I decided to get the overlord speed upgrade before lair in all my games tonight. Just to make it easier to scout. I think one of my big problems is that I don't scout enough, so I'l prioritize that for a few days now.

The game opened pretty standard, with him forge expanding, and me 3 hatching it up.
I then forgot to scout... and he surprised me with an oracle at my third. This was not really that big of a deal, but then another turned up, and I started to panic. In the heat of the defense, I forgot my lair, I was missing injects, I was getting supply blocked, and generally played pretty bad.

And I felt that I could not move out, or do anything. I saw him take his third, and I was stuck in my base, forced to just watch him do it.

I was getting mad!

From here I didn't have a plan really. I wanted to get a 4th and a max lair tech army and see if I could do something with that. But as i tried to take my 4th, I noticed that he had had his 4th up for a while. And my fingers went ENTER --> gg --> F10 --> n

Looking at the replay, his 4th was pretty dam risky. And he had a fairly small army. I could have done huge damage with some ling run-by's or other stuff. But I just felt so scared that I just sat in my base like an jerk.

I'm not sure if this is down to lack of scouting, poor game sense, or what. But it really felt like I was being outplayed like mad. However I don't really think I was. Had I just been able to be more active on the map, and not let him double expand. The game would have been very different.

I don't have a conclusion to this. But I do think I need to calm down more when playing. When stuff happens, I get tunnel vision and forget so many basic things. On the other side, when I feel like I am iNcontroL of the game, the game seems to go in slow motion, and I have all the time in the world..

Could I have won the game from where I was when I left? would be difficult, but definitely possible.

Need to stop leaving!

Tomorrow I will be playing Bioshock, so probably not a blag entry then.



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MysteryMeat1
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States3292 Posts
April 05 2013 04:46 GMT
#2
is there a way to rebind menu hotkeys. If there is I think you should do this so that you can't leave games as fast as you can now. Gives you an extra second to think about it. And instead of leaving you should just continue with your gameplan and cut some corners as well.
"Cause ya know, Style before victory." -The greatest mafia player alive
Acurus
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Norway32 Posts
April 05 2013 04:55 GMT
#3
I might have to pluck F10 out of my keyboard. Don't really need it for anything anyway
FrogsAreDogs
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
Canada181 Posts
April 05 2013 05:57 GMT
#4
Hello,

I saw your ZvP from your perspective and first thing I noticed was that you could have had much better overlord placements in the beginning of the game. Your first overlord was sent directly to below his nat's mineral line, which I imo isn't is a very good position. I always send mine straight towards the forge, placing it slightly away so that it is not directly under a canon, this lets me see exactly what order of buildings he builds after the pylon, if it is nexus first, canon, or gateway. It will give you a good idea of how economically he is opening up.

Also, I think once you take your nat(your 3rd base) you can send your second overlord to his main. You eventually send your third overlord but by the time you sac it, it is already too late to scout anything useful(eg. oracle). Another problem I see is that you were apm spamming pretty much up to the 7minute mark. Once you have your first two lings out you can have much better options to spend your apm. For example, your lings pretty much sat outside of his nat without vision of anything, when they could have poked at his nat and gave you scouting info (eg. if he is chronoing warpgate, forge). I think your apm is high enough that even if he chases your lings with a zealot you can still circle it while macroing up nicely. Watching from your perspective, your vision of your opponent is pretty much completely dark, I would be quite nervous if I was in your position.

Another small thing to note is that, when the two oracles appeared in your main, if you sent your two queens at ur nat IMMEDIATELY to your main you would have been completely fine. You got caught off guard quite a bit from the oracle harass, perhaps you should consider hotkeying your queens?(=| IDK why, quite a bit of zergs don't hotkey their queens and end up not using them fast enough for critical moments)

Lastly, you left before even seeing his army which I thought (no offense) was quite hilarious haha. I highly doubt he could have outplayed you so much as to sneak a fourth and have a larger army, but he did then there's not much you can do =|. What I would have done in your game is send out your roaches to his nat as soon as you saw the oracles. Your roaches can then apply a bit of a pressure, which would force out army units and overall delay his sneaky expos. If he played as greedy as you said, then your roaches would have definitely been able to put on some pressure(it will also force his oracles to decide between chasing your roaches or killing your drones).

Overall these are just my opinions, and I'm not pro in anyway, so I hope you find them useful. =)
YO
-Kaiser-
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Canada932 Posts
April 05 2013 10:42 GMT
#5
I addition to the poster's above advice, which is pretty solid (You need to scout their main with an overlord. If you don't, you'll die to everything a protoss player does to kill you)....

Your immediate reply to stargate harassment should be to hold the D key on your keyboard while you defend and take your 4th. You should more or less have a blind spore at your 3rd nowadays to deal with mcore/zealot pokes, so that will help.

Drone as hard as possible while you tech to lair for your hydralisks, and then when hydras get out you can make a huge round of them and pressure the protoss player back while you get your spire up. If you droned hard enough during the stargate harassment and didn't take too much damage, your economy should be good enough or close enough to afford a corruptor/hydra/roach army to fight the protoss player's colossus with. If the protoss player is going mass air instead of a more balanced air/colossus/gateway composition, take every base on the map, drop down a second spire for upgrades, and drone like a ridiculous fool to afford the 400/400 corruptor/hydra army you'll need.

TL;DR Drone and expand hard as a response to stargate openings.
3 Hatch Before Cool
Acurus
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Norway32 Posts
April 05 2013 22:37 GMT
#6
Great advice from the both of you! I will definitely try my best to do that in game. Something I tried a while back, but kinda forgot about was to force myself to do some kind of scouting each time I catch myself APM spamming (Boxing drones). I tend to do that at every free moment, and that time would be much better spent poking with lings, adjusting OV placement etc. And droning to counter stargate openings sounds like a good plan, so I will be holding down that D-button the next time I see it
ninazerg
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States7291 Posts
April 05 2013 23:34 GMT
#7
You should put a plastic cover over your f10 key so you can't press it. This way, you will only be able to leave a game once all your buildings are dead.
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