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kafkaesque
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Germany2006 Posts
March 16 2013 18:27 GMT
#21
"Of all sad words of tongue and pen, the saddest are: it might have been."

He won't regret failing as much as he would not trying at all.
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IdrA
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States11541 Posts
March 16 2013 19:11 GMT
#22
On March 17 2013 02:20 Talin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2013 01:56 Stratos_speAr wrote:
On March 16 2013 23:22 biology]major wrote:
On March 16 2013 22:33 FreshVegetables wrote:
On March 16 2013 22:30 sAsImre wrote:
On March 16 2013 13:37 iGrepair wrote:
So I have switched back. I trained in LoL for about 6 months and played no SC2 in between I am now at a diamond level once again and steadily improving. I will go pro though and I am dedicated.

Leave your experiences with SC2 and LoL!


True Fighting!


sorry to break your dreams but it won't happen.


I think you're being a bit unfair. Sure it's very unlikely he'll get good enough to get picked up by a professional or even a decent team in the near future. But there's always the small chance that he'll make it, who knows?


I sense delusional optimism, with phrases used like "LoL career", and "training sc2 pro". Sensible people don't make huge life decisions based on small chances.


You're the kind of person that just settles for a boring cubicle job that pays well because it's too hard/risky to actually chase your dreams, aren't you?

OP: Keep at it. If you have the drive, odds are that you can do it.


Actually, odds are nowhere near that.

yea they are, its the odds on having the drive that are pretty shitty
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kafkaesque
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Germany2006 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-16 19:24:56
March 16 2013 19:23 GMT
#23
On March 17 2013 04:11 IdrA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2013 02:20 Talin wrote:
On March 17 2013 01:56 Stratos_speAr wrote:
On March 16 2013 23:22 biology]major wrote:
On March 16 2013 22:33 FreshVegetables wrote:
On March 16 2013 22:30 sAsImre wrote:
On March 16 2013 13:37 iGrepair wrote:
So I have switched back. I trained in LoL for about 6 months and played no SC2 in between I am now at a diamond level once again and steadily improving. I will go pro though and I am dedicated.

Leave your experiences with SC2 and LoL!


True Fighting!


sorry to break your dreams but it won't happen.


I think you're being a bit unfair. Sure it's very unlikely he'll get good enough to get picked up by a professional or even a decent team in the near future. But there's always the small chance that he'll make it, who knows?


I sense delusional optimism, with phrases used like "LoL career", and "training sc2 pro". Sensible people don't make huge life decisions based on small chances.


You're the kind of person that just settles for a boring cubicle job that pays well because it's too hard/risky to actually chase your dreams, aren't you?

OP: Keep at it. If you have the drive, odds are that you can do it.


Actually, odds are nowhere near that.

yea they are, its the odds on having the drive that are pretty shitty


Just look at this guy:

The best training conditions out of every foreigner ever since the beginning of SC2, yet barely remaining competitive due a lack of passion for a game he doesn't particularly enjoy. I hope HotS will turn that around.
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IdrA
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States11541 Posts
March 16 2013 20:08 GMT
#24
winning multiple major tournaments is barely remaining competitive?
imbecile
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kafkaesque
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Germany2006 Posts
March 16 2013 20:40 GMT
#25
On March 17 2013 05:08 IdrA wrote:
winning multiple major tournaments is barely remaining competitive?
imbecile


I was making the point that a lack of passion and enjoyment is detrimental to your results and performance in general.

Everyone knows you were arguably the best foreigner in 2010 and easily amongst the top 20 of 2011.
Yet, you've been very vocal about not liking the game and I think the last one and a half years have shown that.

No need to be rude, not that I expected anything else from you.
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SupplyBlockedTV
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Belgium313 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-16 22:19:58
March 16 2013 22:19 GMT
#26
On March 17 2013 04:11 IdrA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2013 02:20 Talin wrote:
On March 17 2013 01:56 Stratos_speAr wrote:
On March 16 2013 23:22 biology]major wrote:
On March 16 2013 22:33 FreshVegetables wrote:
On March 16 2013 22:30 sAsImre wrote:
On March 16 2013 13:37 iGrepair wrote:
So I have switched back. I trained in LoL for about 6 months and played no SC2 in between I am now at a diamond level once again and steadily improving. I will go pro though and I am dedicated.

Leave your experiences with SC2 and LoL!


True Fighting!


sorry to break your dreams but it won't happen.


I think you're being a bit unfair. Sure it's very unlikely he'll get good enough to get picked up by a professional or even a decent team in the near future. But there's always the small chance that he'll make it, who knows?


I sense delusional optimism, with phrases used like "LoL career", and "training sc2 pro". Sensible people don't make huge life decisions based on small chances.


You're the kind of person that just settles for a boring cubicle job that pays well because it's too hard/risky to actually chase your dreams, aren't you?

OP: Keep at it. If you have the drive, odds are that you can do it.


Actually, odds are nowhere near that.

yea they are, its the odds on having the drive that are pretty shitty


A wild gracken has appeared! :O

Well, i think it is a very very hard journey to even go from a decent GM player to being a pro. And probably idra knows better about it then most of us (unless he was spawned pro?). You need to play the game all the time, even the days that you want to puke on the first starcraft related pixel you see. Its not like a 80s rocky training montage. But anyway, the way i look at it. Its never bad to try, especially in starcraft, it really sharpens your mind and helps with problem solving in real life, so its not a total waste.....like world of warcraft (sorry) :D
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FreshVegetables
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Finland513 Posts
March 17 2013 00:28 GMT
#27
On March 17 2013 05:08 IdrA wrote:
winning multiple major tournaments is barely remaining competitive?
imbecile


Is it harder to keep going and practicing when you're already an established pro?

What I mean is, you live in a pro-house, you're on one of the best teams around, and you get a good salary. Those are some milestones many lesser pro's can only dream of. You'd think if you just hit gm and trying to get your name out there would have more drive and more passion to practice harder?

I get the feeling that once you reach that level, and you can keep going at it with the same passion as before, is what makes you or breaks you in the end. I'm probably wrong though
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mambar
Profile Joined February 2012
United States841 Posts
March 17 2013 03:13 GMT
#28
On March 17 2013 05:40 kafkaesque wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2013 05:08 IdrA wrote:
winning multiple major tournaments is barely remaining competitive?
imbecile


I was making the point that a lack of passion and enjoyment is detrimental to your results and performance in general.

Everyone knows you were arguably the best foreigner in 2010 and easily amongst the top 20 of 2011.
Yet, you've been very vocal about not liking the game and I think the last one and a half years have shown that.

No need to be rude, not that I expected anything else from you.

yeah because your tone was so polite
SupplyBlockedTV
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Belgium313 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-17 14:45:30
March 17 2013 11:27 GMT
#29
On March 17 2013 09:28 FreshVegetables wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2013 05:08 IdrA wrote:
winning multiple major tournaments is barely remaining competitive?
imbecile


Is it harder to keep going and practicing when you're already an established pro?

What I mean is, you live in a pro-house, you're on one of the best teams around, and you get a good salary. Those are some milestones many lesser pro's can only dream of. You'd think if you just hit gm and trying to get your name out there would have more drive and more passion to practice harder?

I get the feeling that once you reach that level, and you can keep going at it with the same passion as before, is what makes you or breaks you in the end. I'm probably wrong though


There is alot more to it then you make it sound (just speaking about athletes in general now). A good example is how often unkown athletes can get better results then those with a big name, because of the simple reason that there isnt as much at stake for these people. There is alot of pressure for those who have already established a name when everyone around you expects you to get good results, or even worse, when you are making a living from it. Its also the reason why i feel nobody has the right to crap on progamers when their results arnt what they used to be, because there is alot more to it then just practicing day in day out. And im pretty sure there are alot of other factors too besides competitive stress and the amount of practice.
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