EPTThe Great Blizzard eSports Experiment Is Over - Page 10
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WolfintheSheep
Canada14127 Posts
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Bashnek
Australia895 Posts
For the sake of clarity: ESL told us that they would allow us to stream to WCS_Europe2. Problem here is that since we're not officially involved in WCS we would essentially be working for free. 2 casters, 2 production people, 8+ hours dedicated to a stream channel that isn't ours. As much as Kev and I would love to cast the games, of course our boss isn't going to allow it. So the dispute was "Is NASL allowed to stream WCS Qualifiers to NASL channels?". The answer to that question, at least for now, is "no". The complete quote on why NASL didnt continue to cast WCS Qualifiers. | ||
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JimmyJRaynor
Canada16259 Posts
well, i guess i'm not shocked. http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/1cs1n0/thoughts_on_wcs_na_qualifier_situation/ http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=408425¤tpage=4 i'm sure you'll come up with some way of saying how great WCS is though  another hand picked by Blizzard ... "partner" doing an "awesome job" with these online qualifiers. another example of poor planning and execution by Blizzard for WCS 2013. | ||
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Integra
Sweden5626 Posts
On April 21 2013 21:53 JimmyJRaynor wrote: well, i guess i'm not shocked. http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/1cs1n0/thoughts_on_wcs_na_qualifier_situation/ http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=408425¤tpage=4 i'm sure you'll come up with some way of saying how great WCS is though another hand picked by Blizzard ... "partner" doing an "awesome job" with these online qualifiers. another example of poor planning and execution by Blizzard for WCS 2013. It's MLG who were responsible for dealing with the tournament setup which was a normal 512 invite and they were the ones who fucked it up, not Blizzard. The Europe version had no problem since it was handled by ESL, another organizer. This had nothing to do with WCS or Blizzard since MLG would had fucked it up anyway, they couldn't even update the brackets correctly which is kinda O_o. | ||
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JimmyJRaynor
Canada16259 Posts
lol PhysicsLee is gone. lol i just feel bad for all the other people he eliminated. | ||
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WolfintheSheep
Canada14127 Posts
Is the OP even remotely relevant anymore, or is Jimmy just desperately clinging to every single controversy he can find to salvage some pride? | ||
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Integra
Sweden5626 Posts
On April 22 2013 04:32 WolfintheSheep wrote: Is this thread still going? Is the OP even remotely relevant anymore, or is Jimmy just desperately clinging to every single controversy he can find to salvage some pride? He has no pride left to salvage, and regarding relevance I think I've figured it out, JimmyJRaynor's logic basically goes like this: Find something bad, any bad that happens in the community and then find a possible link to Blizzard, disregard if the link actually is credible, relevant, real or simply made up, and claim that Blizzard is the cause or own it while being as general as possible so it fits. | ||
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JimmyJRaynor
Canada16259 Posts
pretty sad stuff. | ||
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JimmyJRaynor
Canada16259 Posts
On April 22 2013 04:46 Integra wrote: He has no pride left to salvage, and regarding relevance I think I've figured it out, JimmyJRaynor's logic basically goes like this: Find something bad, any bad that happens in the community and then find a possible link to Blizzard, disregard if the link actually is credible, relevant, real or simply made up, and claim that Blizzard is the cause or own it while being as general as possible so it fits. Comm was also disqualified... pretty sad stuff. then there was that big lag incident. really there are too many hacking and lag incidents to track .. and i'm too lazy to list them all. your implication that there would be ZERO hacking incidents the entire year was good for a laugh though. | ||
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Integra
Sweden5626 Posts
On April 22 2013 21:49 JimmyJRaynor wrote: Comm was also disqualified... pretty sad stuff. then there was that big lag incident. really there are too many hacking and lag incidents to track .. and i'm too lazy to list them all. your implication that there would be ZERO hacking incidents the entire year was good for a laugh though. Please outline where I said no one would hack or cheat in the tournament. And to further correct you, again, I was talking about the timeframe of the qualifiers, and not for the entire year, but that doesn't matter since it's okay for you to just make up shit, right? | ||
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JimmyJRaynor
Canada16259 Posts
however, that is expensive. and over all support for eSports has been lowered for 2013 in comparison to 2012. So, we'll all have to tolerate the possibility of hacking, stream cheating, and lag spikes (which can be tough to quantify) during online matches (which are cheaper to host and run). And again.. for the 5th time. Blizzard selected MLG. MLG isn't running this on their own... it is not some kind of independent MLG event. Please stop pretending that Blizzard has nothing to do with the WCS. Because the WCS is 100% their property. | ||
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Integra
Sweden5626 Posts
On April 22 2013 22:04 JimmyJRaynor wrote: No, the problems would still had persisted regardless of WCS since the problems are due to poor administration of MLG, and MLG actually had far worse problems during 2010-2011. It's not unusual for MLG to fuck up.this kind of event.. this giant open qualifier could easily be held in the traditional (MLG 2010,2011, 2012) MLG open bracket live event to avoid all of these issues. however, that is expensive. and over all support for eSports has been lowered for 2013 in comparison to 2012. So, we'll all have to tolerate the possibility of hacking, stream cheating, and lag spikes (which can be tough to quantify) during online matches (which are cheaper to host and run). And again.. for the 5th time. Blizzard selected MLG. Congrats! You are right! MLG isn't running this on their own... it is not some kind of independent MLG event. Please stop pretending that Blizzard has nothing to do with the WCS. Because the WCS is 100% their property. | ||
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JimmyJRaynor
Canada16259 Posts
which is allegedly going on every night this week... its now Monday 10 AM EST. pretty disorganized. for all of Mohraime's talk about an easier viewing experience... its just not happening. hopefully, it'll improve in the future... but at this point .. its all pretty sloppy. | ||
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Integra
Sweden5626 Posts
On April 22 2013 22:53 JimmyJRaynor wrote: still nothing published any where about the starting times of the WCS America Online Qualifiers held by MLG. which is allegedly going on every night this week... its now Monday 10 AM EST. pretty disorganized. for all of Mohraime's talk about an easier viewing experience... its just not happening. Mohraime is not the owner of MLG or responsible for the organization, Sundance is, remember? | ||
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9-BiT
United States1089 Posts
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FlamingForce
Netherlands701 Posts
On April 06 2013 18:50 FlamingForce wrote: He's a known troll over at Gamereplays. Atleast I'm pretty damn sure it's the same guy. I'll just echo my earlier statement for everyone's sanity. | ||
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JimmyJRaynor
Canada16259 Posts
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=408859#1 http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=408859#9 lol Blizzard hand selected both ESL and MLG with promises of a better and easier viewing experience. http://www.pcgamer.com/2013/04/04/blizzards-starcraft-2-wcs-2013-explained-by-company-ceo-mike-morhaime/ what do ESL and MLG have in common? both hand picked by Blizzard. | ||
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FryBender
United States290 Posts
On April 23 2013 00:12 JimmyJRaynor wrote: Lots of problems across the board in both the EU and "America" WCS qualifiers. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=408859#1 http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=408859#9 lol Blizzard hand selected both ESL and MLG with promises of a better and easier viewing experience. http://www.pcgamer.com/2013/04/04/blizzards-starcraft-2-wcs-2013-explained-by-company-ceo-mike-morhaime/ what do ESL and MLG have in common? both hand picked by Blizzard. Yes Jimmy, we all know that the qualifiers are kind of a mess. That in absolutely no way, shape, or form proves your original point that Blizard is scaling back it's support for e-sports. Just stop. At first it was funny. Now it's just sad. | ||
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JimmyJRaynor
Canada16259 Posts
" We wanted to take the next step and involve the StarCraft 2 ecosystem." this is an evolution.. LOL the whole thing is a giant clusterfuck that was hastily thrown together... this means "less support". proper support means running a proper WCS akin to the level of quality of the 2012 WCS. as stated already... http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=408859¤tpage=37#729 | ||
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FryBender
United States290 Posts
On April 23 2013 00:21 JimmyJRaynor wrote: the whole thing is a giant clusterfuck that was hastily thrown together... this means "less support". proper support means running a proper WCS akin to the level of quality of the 2012 WCS. as stated already... http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=408859¤tpage=37#729 Wow, either you're just trolling, in which case whatever, or you seriously don't understand the definition of the word support in which case you might be mildly retarded. In either of the cases talking to you is pointless so good luck with the rest of the thread. | ||
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