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On April 23 2013 23:49 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
no.. Blizzard will not acknowledge how much money they are "pouring into the scene".
that is directly from Morhaime in his PCGamer.com interview.
he has been asked elsewhere.. and also refuses to comment..
it is a white wash smear job... no one really knows between these "7 partners" who is supply what money to whom.
The question was regarding if Blizzard supplied all the money or if the other event holders still was giving away money as well as which Blizzard choose not to respond. The question was not about how much money.
EDIT:JimmyJRaynor you are losing it, half of your posts can't even be considered as relevant anymore, are you getting fed up of always being wrong? 
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no, i said Blizzard will lower its support.
i did not said "no one any where will ever put anything into SC2 eSports ever again".
what i did say was.. 2013 ain't gonna be as good as 2012 due to lowered support by Blizzard.
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But 2013 is better than 2012 8(
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On April 23 2013 23:55 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
no, i said Blizzard will lower its support.
i did not said "no one any where will ever put anything into SC2 eSports ever again".
what i did say was.. 2013 ain't gonna be as good as 2012 due to lowered support by Blizzard.
You actually said all three statements above already in this blog and you have also denied them, what the hell man, you are really slipping!
At least come up with something original. this is getting boring now.
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no one knows... now... Morhaime won't answer the question.
so we can only speculate at this point...
but with the disaster that WCS 2013 has become... i'd say support is not as good as 2012.
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On April 23 2013 23:58 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
no one knows... now... Morhaime won't answer the question.
so we can only speculate at this point...
but with the disaster that WCS 2013 has become... i'd say support is not as good as 2012.
So you admit that everything you wrote in this blog is speculation? Thank you for saying that you were wrong!
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You're just jumping from opinion to opinion, changing what you think just to keep up the argument and make yourself not look wrong. But you are wrong, so for the love of all things holy stop trying to argue the dozens of mutually exclusive points you've presented.
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guy, can u stop PM-ing me...
i'm commenting that at this point 2013 is worse than 2012 for SC2 eSports support.
WCS 2013 is looking like an unmitigated disaster.
I hope Blizzard will fix this for 2014, but at this point all i can do is hope.
On April 23 2013 23:58 Integra wrote:Show nested quote +On April 23 2013 23:58 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
no one knows... now... Morhaime won't answer the question.
so we can only speculate at this point...
but with the disaster that WCS 2013 has become... i'd say support is not as good as 2012. So you admit that everything you wrote in this blog is speculation? Thank you for saying that you were wrong!
the Blog was written BEFORE Morhaime refused to answer the money question.
Had he answered it we'd have a definitive answer.
I can't account for his secrecy in this matter.
the others who are claiming Blizzard is increasing the prize money AFTER Morhaime's PCGamer.com interview .. they are speculating...
their comments were made AFTER Morhaime refused to answer the money question.
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I pm you once asking you to stop spewing misinformation and idiocy. It seems my pm didn't help 
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On April 24 2013 00:58 kollin wrote:I pm you once asking you to stop spewing misinformation and idiocy. It seems my pm didn't help
dude i've received several PMs from you...
i've asked u to stop via PM .. now i'm requesting it in public..
this is comical.
almost as comical as WCS 2013...
although WCS 2013 is turning into a tragicomedy.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tragicomedy
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It's sad that you've resorted to lying to try and smear me. Oh well.
#lifegoeson
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On April 24 2013 00:57 JimmyJRaynor wrote:guy, can u stop PM-ing me... i'm commenting that at this point 2013 is worse than 2012 for SC2 eSports support. WCS 2013 is looking like an unmitigated disaster. I hope Blizzard will fix this for 2014, but at this point all i can do is hope. Show nested quote +On April 23 2013 23:58 Integra wrote:On April 23 2013 23:58 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
no one knows... now... Morhaime won't answer the question.
so we can only speculate at this point...
but with the disaster that WCS 2013 has become... i'd say support is not as good as 2012. So you admit that everything you wrote in this blog is speculation? Thank you for saying that you were wrong! the Blog was written BEFORE Morhaime refused to answer the money question. Had he answered it we'd have a definitive answer. I can't account for his secrecy in this matter. the others who are claiming Blizzard is increasing the prize money AFTER Morhaime's PCGamer.com interview .. they are speculating... their comments were made AFTER Morhaime refused to answer the money question.
Again, thank you for coming out admitting that you were wrong, very kind of you
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WCS 2013 is a an unmitigated disaster...
symptomatic of the rush job Blizzard put together on this.
I guess the next big thing to predict will the "Apology Cardinality" of WCS 2013.
i say the "WCS 2013 Official Apology Total" will be greater than the "WCS 2012 Official Apology Total"
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looooool you're just ignoring the points other people present and spouting the same bullshit over and over again. A poor troll, better luck next time eh?
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On April 24 2013 01:51 kollin wrote:
looooool you're just ignoring the points other people present and spouting the same bullshit over and over again. A poor troll, better luck next time eh?
Kollin, whenever he repeats himself or goes off-tangent (whenever he starts making zero sense) then just ignore him. I mean there is not point discussing with him at that point.
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I try to, but the temptation to rip his argument to pieces never ends 
EDIT: Lest we forget this:
On February 24 2013 18:16 kollin wrote:Show nested quote +On February 24 2013 18:13 JimmyJRaynor wrote:On February 24 2013 17:58 WolfintheSheep wrote:On February 24 2013 16:03 JimmyJRaynor wrote:On February 24 2013 12:38 WolfintheSheep wrote:On February 24 2013 09:53 JimmyJRaynor wrote:On February 24 2013 09:41 Dundron2000 wrote:On February 24 2013 09:24 JimmyJRaynor wrote:On February 24 2013 09:21 kollin wrote:On February 24 2013 09:18 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
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that is great, however, hte head of the IPL said they are 5 years from profitability.
Ziff Davis said "find another sugar daddy". What is that your Stone Cold Steve Austin imitation? http://www.eventhubs.com/news/2013/jan/07/ipl-spent-over-1-million-years-event-and-lost-money-they-expect-it-make-money-its-fifth-year/and as you know Ziff-Davis is trying to sell the league. although why any one would buy it to lose money for 5 years is beyond me. IPLs previous "value proposition" was that it drew traffic to IGN.com. ZD announced their alternative method of attracting that same traffic is by simply reporting on eSPorts events rather than paying out the prize money. well you said it yourself, 5 years from profitability.. so "losing" money for 5 years isnt really true, rather it means you will make money in the future to compensate for the initial costs. so it has more to do with short versus long term investement strategies rather than "sugar daddies". ya well there are 5 million assumptions that go into this "plan for profitability" any one can lose money. the tricky part is making it. if IPLs plan look like a sure thing to you then put together a group of investors and laugh all ur way to the bank. It's worth noting that most business (even small ones) are not profitable until a long time after they are established, simply by the nature of start up costs. While IPL may have put in $1million last year, a lot of that will be the cost of setting up infrastructure, hiring and training the employees, buying the required equipment, etc. and many businesses never see a profit and just go out of business. so far 2 big corporations are not willing to wait: Newscorp and ZiffDavis. and their actions speak louder than your words. Yes...and? If almost all businesses take a long time to offset start-up costs, and if some businesses close down after a short period, it stands to reason that some businesses close down without being profitable. This is technically what investing is all about: Losing short term money with the prospect of gaining in the long term. and IGN and the league it owns IPL was shopped around for months and months with Newscorp unable to find a buyer. finally it went to auction. no one thinks IPL is going to make some big turnaround. if you do... you should get some friends together and buy it.. because at this point its available for pennies on the dollar. OK you seem pretty confident, why don't you put your money where your mouth is. If IPL is sold, you get a 30 day ban. If IPL isn't sold, I get a 30 day ban.
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On April 24 2013 02:05 kollin wrote:I try to, but the temptation to rip his argument to pieces never ends EDIT: Lest we forget this: Show nested quote +On February 24 2013 18:16 kollin wrote:On February 24 2013 18:13 JimmyJRaynor wrote:On February 24 2013 17:58 WolfintheSheep wrote:On February 24 2013 16:03 JimmyJRaynor wrote:On February 24 2013 12:38 WolfintheSheep wrote:On February 24 2013 09:53 JimmyJRaynor wrote:On February 24 2013 09:41 Dundron2000 wrote:well you said it yourself, 5 years from profitability.. so "losing" money for 5 years isnt really true, rather it means you will make money in the future to compensate for the initial costs. so it has more to do with short versus long term investement strategies rather than "sugar daddies". ya well there are 5 million assumptions that go into this "plan for profitability" any one can lose money. the tricky part is making it. if IPLs plan look like a sure thing to you then put together a group of investors and laugh all ur way to the bank. It's worth noting that most business (even small ones) are not profitable until a long time after they are established, simply by the nature of start up costs. While IPL may have put in $1million last year, a lot of that will be the cost of setting up infrastructure, hiring and training the employees, buying the required equipment, etc. and many businesses never see a profit and just go out of business. so far 2 big corporations are not willing to wait: Newscorp and ZiffDavis. and their actions speak louder than your words. Yes...and? If almost all businesses take a long time to offset start-up costs, and if some businesses close down after a short period, it stands to reason that some businesses close down without being profitable. This is technically what investing is all about: Losing short term money with the prospect of gaining in the long term. and IGN and the league it owns IPL was shopped around for months and months with Newscorp unable to find a buyer. finally it went to auction. no one thinks IPL is going to make some big turnaround. if you do... you should get some friends together and buy it.. because at this point its available for pennies on the dollar. OK you seem pretty confident, why don't you put your money where your mouth is. If IPL is sold, you get a 30 day ban. If IPL isn't sold, I get a 30 day ban.
The easiest thing is not to argue with him at all, just correct and clarify him since nothing he says is grounded in anything concrete anyway.
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He never said IPL would or would not be sold, he said there would no longer be any large scale events by IPL, similar to IPL 3, 4 & 5
IPL doesn't even exist at this point.
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He did say they wouldn't be sold, more than once.
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How did 2011 Prize money compare?
Because I remember late 2011-early 2012 as the best years, with this slowly catching up and I feel will surpass as players develop in HotS.
Jimmy, this is an aside, but how do you feel game quality will compare with the previous years?
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