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JimmyJRaynor
Canada17682 Posts
disorganization chaos and uncertainty are all up... changing the prize pool in the middle of a GSL season... sad. pretty sad stuff.. so disorganized. there are hundreds if not thousands of qualifer games.. and they can't find a way to let NASL broadcast on their channels like they did yesterday... i guess this is what Blizzard calls a "streamlined viewing experience". on the plus side of broadcasting less of these online qualifiers the amount of "stream cheating" will be lower.  | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On April 18 2013 03:33 JimmyJRaynor wrote: overall prize money is down.. support is down.. disorganization chaos and uncertainty are all up... changing the prize pool in the middle of a GSL season... sad. pretty sad stuff.. so disorganized. there are hundreds if not thousands of qualifer games.. and they can't find a way to let NASL broadcast on their channels like they did yesterday... What part of NASL is a for profit business and doesn't do stuff for free. Mr. Bitter said his boss told them to stop producing the casts because they were getting no return on the broadcast, while having 8 staff members working on it. That isn't Blizzard's fault, its Mr. Bitter's fault for providing a product that they weren't getting paid for and then being told to stop broadcasting for free. Jimmy, you clearly are just going to ignore everything everyone posts and gong to keep saying that Esports is going to die due to Blizzard. You will change your points and theories, drop them when you lose and move on to whatever new theory supports your claim. You are 100% wrong on all points. Give up, your wrong, it isn't the end of the world. | ||
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eviltomahawk
United States11135 Posts
Rob Simpson, the most public member of the "eSports Team" is now gone. Blizzard has yet to announce his replacement. If the "eSports Team" were growing Rob would have 2 replacements. Ilja Rotelli left a while ago. And they ended up purchasing IPL staff and assets. Although Blizzard's support will be scaled back compared to what we saw in the past two and a half years they will still support many SC2 events. There is no way that the Blizzcon invitationals in 2010 and 2011 can even hold a candle up to the scope of WCS 2013. A comparison with WCS 2012 is arguable, yes, but still, it is undeniable that Blizzard is taking a more hands-on approach to eSports now more than ever. Heck, if they actually "scaled back," we wouldn't even have these current WCS glitches and everything would remain at the status quo. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On April 18 2013 03:48 eviltomahawk wrote: And they ended up purchasing IPL staff and assets. There is no way that the Blizzcon invitationals in 2010 and 2011 can even hold a candle up to the scope of WCS 2013. A comparison with WCS 2012 is arguable, yes, but still, it is undeniable that Blizzard is taking a more hands-on approach to eSports now more than ever. Heck, if they actually "scaled back," we wouldn't even have these current WCS glitches and everything would remain at the status quo. Rob Simpson also got offered a better job at another company(which fucking happens in the real world) and they did replace him with an entire production team and several Esports folks. Also they provided a contact to players to report hackers and other weird stuff on the ladder. | ||
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Integra
Sweden5626 Posts
On April 18 2013 03:33 JimmyJRaynor wrote: overall prize money is down.. support is down.. No.. GSL price pool is down, slightly, and it has nothing to do with the support from Blizzard, if that's even what you are referring to. disorganization chaos and uncertainty are all up... What does this sentence even mean? changing the prize pool in the middle of a GSL season... sad. You are correct there! Great job, they did change the money pool. pretty sad stuff.. so disorganized. there are hundreds if not thousands of qualifer games.. and they can't find a way to let NASL broadcast on their channels like they did yesterday... I think it's more cause NASL didn't see it to be worth to cast all the games and not cause it's "disorganized" i guess this is what Blizzard calls a "streamlined viewing experience". on the plus side of broadcasting less of these online qualifiers the amount of "stream cheating" will be lower. Blizzard is not GSL, or NASL. And the stream cheating is easily prevented by invoking delays on the streams. | ||
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JimmyJRaynor
Canada17682 Posts
and yesterday WCS qualifiers were on NASL.tv and they are permitted to cast in any language other than english. lol. its just a totally disorganized mess... and has been from the start. hopefully, no legit players get burned by hacking or stream cheating.. but i'll be shocked if there are zero incidents. did Kalaeris find a WCS logo to put on his stream yet? | ||
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Integra
Sweden5626 Posts
On April 18 2013 04:02 JimmyJRaynor wrote: and yet Khaldor was allowed to stream Code "A" qualifiers on his own channel. and yesterday WCS qualifiers were on NASL.tv its just a totally disorganized mess... and has been from the start. hopefully, no legit players get burned by hacking or stream cheating.. but i'll be shocked if there are zero incidents. Prepare to be shocked then i guess. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On April 18 2013 04:02 JimmyJRaynor wrote: and yet Khaldor was allowed to stream Code "A" qualifiers on his own channel. and yesterday WCS qualifiers were on NASL.tv and they are permitted to cast in any language other than english. lol. its just a totally disorganized mess... and has been from the start. hopefully, no legit players get burned by hacking or stream cheating.. but i'll be shocked if there are zero incidents. NASL stopped the broadcast, not Blizzard. Drop it, you wrong and you didn't read the reddit thread. Khaldor is able to broadcast the code A qualifiers on his own stream because it is just him, doing it on his free time. You see, that's how it works. On your free time, you can do what you want. But in the office, during business hours, you need to do your job and not take up 8 staff members doing stuff for free. I know its weird for you, but sometimes people other than Blizzard do things and they are for totally valid reasons. | ||
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JimmyJRaynor
Canada17682 Posts
so that is ur prediction 0 incidents  lol..its a long year. | ||
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JimmyJRaynor
Canada17682 Posts
On April 18 2013 04:09 Plansix wrote: NASL stopped the broadcast, not Blizzard. Drop it, you wrong and you didn't read the reddit thread. Khaldor is able to broadcast the code A qualifiers on his own stream because it is just him, doing it on his free time. You see, that's how it works. On your free time, you can do what you want. But in the office, during business hours, you need to do your job and not take up 8 staff members doing stuff for free. I know its weird for you, but sometimes people other than Blizzard do things and they are for totally valid reasons. lol.. i'm not laying blame at all LOL 1 day NASL is on... doing great work.. next day GONE.. 1 day the GSL first prize is $40,000 ... the next day... $20,000.... changing the prize pool during the middle of the event is sloppy I don't have enough space to go into the errors made by ESL during the WCS-Europe qualifiers. growing pains are 1 thing... this is just sloppy. did Kalaeris find a WCS logo... its so sloppy it is comedic. but all of it indicative of less support from Blizzard. Blizzard needs a guy like Ilja Rotelli to run the show. he is really missed now. | ||
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Integra
Sweden5626 Posts
On April 18 2013 04:11 JimmyJRaynor wrote: so that is ur prediction 0 incidents lol..its a long year. For the qualifiers. And again, your above post is related to NASL and GSL, they have nothing to do with Blizzards support. | ||
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JimmyJRaynor
Canada17682 Posts
On April 18 2013 04:17 Integra wrote: For the qualifiers. And again, your above post is related to NASL and GSL, they have nothing to do with Blizzards support. its Blizzard's event now. they put their name all over it... now calling it "WCS". and the GSL is now simply a part of "Korea WCS" ... please read all the crap about Artosis not calling it WCS and erroneously sticking with the name GSL ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/n9dlOiI.jpg) what is the first logo in the list? its all under the Blizzard WCS umbrella now. which is why they Kaelaris needed to find a WCS logo. LOL and right from Mr Bitter himself... "So the dispute was "Is NASL allowed to stream WCS Qualifiers to NASL channels?". The answer to that question, at least for now, is "no"." where is Ilja now? .. o ya.. working for Riot. | ||
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Integra
Sweden5626 Posts
On April 18 2013 04:22 JimmyJRaynor wrote: its Blizzard's event now. they put their name all over it... now calling it "WCS". and the GSL is now simply a part of "Korea WCS" ... please read all the crap about Artosis not calling it WCS and erroneously sticking with the name GSL No, WCS is a global ladder system which is being used to unify the scene and create a common rating system for all players, its not an event. All the other events, such as GSL, ESL, MLG and so forth simply uses the ladder system to know what players to pick, their events are their own and has nothing to do with Blizzard except for the main WCS event at blizzcon, which will be hosted by Blizzard. And regarding the logos that's the sponsors, and Blizzard is there because they are using their game, not because they OWN GSL or run it. | ||
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JimmyJRaynor
Canada17682 Posts
"PCG: Are the prize pools for MLG, GSL, and other participating WCS leagues now provided by Blizzard? MM: We’re not getting into details on where the money’s coming from. Blizzard is working in partnership with all of the tournament operators. We have announced the overall prize pool for 2013 – that’ll be $1.6 million." the Blizzard CEO... has inextricably tied his brand to all the feeder events. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On April 18 2013 04:22 JimmyJRaynor wrote: its Blizzard's event now. they put their name all over it... now calling it "WCS". and the GSL is now simply a part of "Korea WCS" ... please read all the crap about Artosis not calling it WCS and erroneously sticking with the name GSL its all under the Blizzard WCS umbrella now. which is why they Kaelaris needed to find a WCS logo. LOL and right from Mr Bitter himself... "So the dispute was "Is NASL allowed to stream WCS Qualifiers to NASL channels?". The answer to that question, at least for now, is "no"." where is Ilja now? .. o ya.. working for Riot. Jimmy, you are just wrong and bad at making arguments that make sense. Saying things over and over again doesn't make you right. Citing that people have changed jobs doesn't prove anything. You are just shouting at the rain and claiming the sky is falling. In the end, you will be wrong a year from now and still be claiming that it is all Blizzards fault. | ||
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JimmyJRaynor
Canada17682 Posts
On April 18 2013 04:31 Plansix wrote: Jimmy, you are just wrong and bad at making arguments that make sense. Saying things over and over again doesn't make you right. Citing that people have changed jobs doesn't prove anything. You are just shouting at the rain and claiming the sky is falling. In the end, you will be wrong a year from now and still be claiming that it is all Blizzards fault. read post above. | ||
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JimmyJRaynor
Canada17682 Posts
Blizzard made that decision. WCS is owned by Blizzard. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
The post above just makes you look like a man grasping at straws Jimmy. It doesn't make you right, it just makes you seem a like a fool who will say anything to make people believe him. The only person you are trying to convince is yourself. | ||
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Integra
Sweden5626 Posts
On April 18 2013 04:42 JimmyJRaynor wrote: who decided ESL would be the "EU WCS Partner" ? Blizzard made that decision. WCS is owned by Blizzard. WCS is the global ladder system and no one is forced to use it if they don't want to. Also blizzard does not own it, they own the WCS event at blizzcon but ESL is no part of that. On April 18 2013 04:31 JimmyJRaynor wrote: its so disorganized Artosis doesn't even know what to call it. "PCG: Are the prize pools for MLG, GSL, and other participating WCS leagues now provided by Blizzard? MM: We’re not getting into details on where the money’s coming from. Blizzard is working in partnership with all of the tournament operators. We have announced the overall prize pool for 2013 – that’ll be $1.6 million." the Blizzard CEO... has inextricably tied his brand to all the feeder events. The post you made above simply stated that blizzard had an estimate on how much money would be distributed during 2013 in WCS, not that it came directly from Blizzard, nor does it include the other price money from events outside WCS like MLG, Dreamhack, Proleauge and so forth. | ||
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ninazerg
United States7291 Posts
...JimmyRaynor is right? DUN DUN DUN | ||
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