EPTI mean, LoL you cant deny, you cant creep stack, buffs are in your own jungles instead of in the river, no bottle/chicken... it is just like a completely simplified DotA2. So why is it so popular for professional players to be switching to LoL?
Genuinely Curious - Why LoL instead of DotA2?
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TheRabidDeer
United States3806 Posts
I mean, LoL you cant deny, you cant creep stack, buffs are in your own jungles instead of in the river, no bottle/chicken... it is just like a completely simplified DotA2. So why is it so popular for professional players to be switching to LoL? | ||
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Ettick
United States2434 Posts
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Catch]22
Sweden2683 Posts
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SKC
Brazil18828 Posts
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Dandel Ion
Austria17960 Posts
It's a better career move, especially in Korea, where Dota/dota2 is relatively small, while LoL is huge. I bet you all my esports dollars that Chinese SC2 pros switching would mainly go to DotA 2. | ||
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HorsemasterK
United States606 Posts
Also, there is this false assumption that more complex games make better sports. The rules of most popular sports aren't all that complicated, yet the strategies employed by professional teams are. Kids can play a pickup game of basketball; the rules are simple, but no one would suggest that since children play the sport, there cannot be skilled play. | ||
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jpak
United States5045 Posts
On October 25 2012 06:35 Dandel Ion wrote: Because in the grad scheme of things, the difficultiy is not actually that much of a difference, but LoL has way more money. It's a better career move, especially in Korea, where Dota/dota2 is non-existant, while LoL is huge. I bet you all my esports dollars that Chinese SC2 pros switching would mainly go to DotA 2. Fixed that for you. And of course, Chinese SC2 pros would most likely switch to Dota 2. | ||
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DeepElemBlues
United States5079 Posts
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TheRabidDeer
United States3806 Posts
On October 25 2012 06:36 HorsemasterK wrote: LoL is more accessible, both to play and to watch. MOBA games are pretty arcane to those who have not played them, and since League is the simplest/most played, its got the largest audience. Also, there is this false assumption that more complex games make better sports. The rules of most popular sports aren't all that complicated, yet the strategies employed by professional teams are. Kids can play a pickup game of basketball; the rules are simple, but no one would suggest that since children play the sport, there cannot be skilled play. Yea, but the rules are simple for both games (arguably the same), it is still the strategies and tactics employed. | ||
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docvoc
United States5491 Posts
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Lysteria
France2279 Posts
And the TL LoL community is a nice one, best I've seen in a long time. Edit : I find DotA 2 quite boring. Clearly not bad, it's just I don't like to deny/pull/stack camps, it reminds me of SC2 with the inject larva/chronoboost and all that stuff. I feel like it's kinda artificial and added just to be more mechanical than it needs to be(BW doesn't have that stuff, it's clean and it was a damn beast game I still enjoy to play). And since I prefer to play LoL, I prefer to watch LoL. That doesn't mean I don't watch the occasional DotA 2 game sometimes. :p | ||
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HorsemasterK
United States606 Posts
On October 25 2012 06:51 TheRabidDeer wrote: Yea, but the rules are simple for both games (arguably the same), it is still the strategies and tactics employed. You stated a couple of the ways DoTA is more complex in your OP, should I quote you? | ||
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TheRabidDeer
United States3806 Posts
On October 25 2012 07:08 HorsemasterK wrote: You stated a couple of the ways DoTA is more complex in your OP, should I quote you? The only one that could be considered a rule is maybe denying, but I dont really view that as a rule. Why do I not see it as a rule? Because it makes logical sense to be able to deny. I was surprised I couldnt when I first played LoL... why did they restrict that? | ||
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Lysteria
France2279 Posts
It's clearly possible to zone you opponent without that possibility. You just have to use other methods, that's all. | ||
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TheRabidDeer
United States3806 Posts
On October 25 2012 07:23 Lysteria wrote: You can deny an opponent, you can't deny creeps. It's clearly possible to zone you opponent without that possibility. You just have to use other methods, that's all. Even if you zone your opponent so they cant last hit, you cant deny experience... can you? | ||
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
On October 25 2012 07:18 TheRabidDeer wrote: The only one that could be considered a rule is maybe denying, but I dont really view that as a rule. Why do I not see it as a rule? Because it makes logical sense to be able to deny. I was surprised I couldnt when I first played LoL... why did they restrict that? Because denying ruins the game for the majority of players. If you suck at the game (which the majority of players do) or just going up against a very nasty lane combo than not getting last hits is already bad enough, why discourage the player further by telling them "you fucking suck"? | ||
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Lysteria
France2279 Posts
2v1 lanes are pretty good for that, and some heroes are made to deny experience, at least a good part of it. It's not as easy as in DotA because you can't directly deny your own stuff to keep the lane in your tower, but if you know how to freeze the lane and have the advantage on your opponent, he can be pretty much screwed. The fact minions aren't as strong as they are in DotA means you can be between your opponent and his creep for example, using the bushes to lose agro. Only type of denying I miss in LoL is for the towers. It makes me really sad when the tower has 10 hp and you can't do shit about it.  Edit : Pretty much like that sir above me said. | ||
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Kaal
Djibouti2466 Posts
On October 25 2012 06:34 SKC wrote: Koreans? Koreans never played Dota, Valve hasn't really focused on Korea with Dota2, at least for now, and Riot has done the opposite, trying hard to get them to play LoL. It's honestly not surprising. I'd like to point out that Korea does have a Dota/Dota2 scene, primarily they used to play a map called Dota: Chaos instead of Allstars which is supposed to be significantly harder kind of like Three Kingdoms was to china, but I know many have switched to dota2. There's about 40 thousand members on their fansite DoKinMo: http://cafe.naver.com/dotaallstars.cafe | ||
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vOdToasT
Sweden2870 Posts
It's the most popular because it's easy. | ||
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Chairman Ray
United States11903 Posts
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