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LlamaNamedOsama
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States1900 Posts
October 10 2012 12:25 GMT
#61
For SC2, seeing as how we've got the Kingslayer and the King in the North I think a better term for MVP (and in general for the currently "best" [but not necessarily exceedingly dominant] player) would be the King of Westeros.
Dario Wünsch: I guess...Creator...met his maker *sunglasses*
OmniEulogy
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada6600 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-10 12:29:59
October 10 2012 12:28 GMT
#62
On October 10 2012 00:48 jpak wrote:
Stop using that word. It was meant for one person and one person only.


NaDa? And no Sun is not even close to being a sc2 Bonjwa... possibly the dumbest thing I've seen you write ever =/
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DJWilma
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Canada740 Posts
October 10 2012 12:47 GMT
#63
On October 10 2012 10:32 Falling wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2012 03:37 DJWilma wrote:
Brings up discussion about if Rain pulls of both GSL and OSL, and continues to do so for an extended period of time, he will be considered dominant in SC2, and could get Bonjwa status on just a theoretical basis

Team Liquid reads the words Rain and Bonjwa in the same sentence and...

*TL Reaction*

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That pretty much was my reaction. I am currently borrowing a computer as a result. But more seriously, regardless of any talk of whether Bonjwa is a strictly BW term, the biggest problem with these bonjwa discussions is it is always brought up when we see a rising star. The discussion in SC2 always revolves around someone who is starting to get really good rather than someone who has been dominating for a long period of time. Current and looking back (emphasis on past) rather than current and looking forward (theoretical future). The only correct response then is to throw it on the ground!


^This is the first argument that didn't sound like a whiny fan boy basically crying about something not being canon.

Seriously its a term. Stop being so anal about its usage. If someone called MVP the closest thing to a bonjwa in SC2 you know what that person is refering to. They wouldn't be saying that he has the win rate that Savior had, but that he is the best player at this time (in their opinion). I'll admit, I did this to stir the pot a bit, but look how up in arms you guys got over one little post about a hypothedical. This kind of reaction over something so little, is actually more embaracing than the ludacris topic I brought up.

If someone just entering into the StarCraft universe and this community, got this sort of reaction on something so little, something purely opinionated, I can imagine that person wouldn't want to stay in it. Minus the whole sexism issue, the reaction reminds myself of how the Fight Game Community can act out over something so small.

Just saying, its a 6 letter word, don't get so caught up on it.

Much Luv ♥ DJ Wilma
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fabiano
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Brazil4644 Posts
October 10 2012 14:21 GMT
#64
With that kind of topic no wonder you are getting shit, don't act too naive now.
"When the geyser died, a probe came out" - SirJolt
bonifaceviii
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada2890 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-10 14:44:06
October 10 2012 14:36 GMT
#65
Edited. I'm getting too emotional here.
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ch33psh33p
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
7650 Posts
October 10 2012 15:17 GMT
#66
This thread is over.

People don't understand what a Bonjwa is.

Look up their stats. Nobody was as dominate as people are talking about right now, even Savior and Oov, yes they had thier AMAZING runs, but they did not dominate consistently for 1-2 years.

Rofl, Savior was known for MSLs, but how many OSLs did he win? Oh wait.

Flash is the only one that holds up the standards in this thread, so according to these people, Flash is the only Bonjwa.
secret - never again
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19384 Posts
October 10 2012 16:24 GMT
#67
On October 11 2012 00:17 ch33psh33p wrote:
This thread is over.

People don't understand what a Bonjwa is.

Look up their stats. Nobody was as dominate as people are talking about right now, even Savior and Oov, yes they had thier AMAZING runs, but they did not dominate consistently for 1-2 years.

Rofl, Savior was known for MSLs, but how many OSLs did he win? Oh wait.

Flash is the only one that holds up the standards in this thread, so according to these people, Flash is the only Bonjwa.

LOLWat. Savior won 1 osl gold and 1 osl silver. Don't knock him for his OSL runs lmao. He was dominant in both leagues. And his reign lasted 3 years.'05, '06' '07.
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metbull
Profile Joined April 2011
United States404 Posts
October 10 2012 16:49 GMT
#68
I'm confused, perhaps this can be clarified by someone more knowledgable, about the b-word, than myself.
So bonjawa is reserved for complete dominance in a period of time?
Who establishes what a "period of time" is?
Is bonjawahood based on longevity of results?
Are international results taken into account, or is the only real competition (therefore the only ways to determine dominance) in S. Korea?
Are there any BW players who weren't considered bonjawa during their period of dominance, but later upon reflection were conferred that status?
I just wonder because if MVP isn't considered bonjawa now, could he be considered bonjawa a year or two down the road if he continues with the highest results, even though it isn't for every tournament? One of the things that I feel people aren't taking into account is that BW was not an international competitive game (for the most part). THE tournament(s) were S. Korean; but now with SC2 the tournaments are worldwide.
I feel there needs to be a clarification/distinction between what is a BW bonjawa and a SC2 bonjawa (when/if there ever is one).
Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary26003 Posts
October 10 2012 19:56 GMT
#69
You're embarassing yourself.
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