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Deleted User 135096
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
3624 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-09 17:28:36
October 09 2012 17:28 GMT
#21
lets put it this way, if we're having a debate on whether someone is this good or not the answer is no. If this level of dominance ever happened in SC2 it would be blatantly obvious to everyone. Also I agree with others here, that word should stay with BW only.
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syst
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
United States247 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-09 17:35:24
October 09 2012 17:32 GMT
#22
On October 10 2012 02:25 krndandaman wrote:
If you're not willing to give 20:1 odds beting on your bonjwa vs any given opponent he is not a bonjwa.

I honestly was willing to give my friends those odds every game for Flash/Savior during their eras and no one would accept. It was amazing.


Man, this is amazing.

20:1 odds can happen in a game that's imbalanced and complains about "patch zergs" and "protoss warpgate OP," BUT it is so fucking difficult to recreate inside a game that 99% of the players will say is balanced and has as high of a skill ceiling as BW has. Bonjwa is a word that is definitive of Brood War and shouldn't be used elsewhere until a game called Brood War 2 comes out using the same mechanics, pathing and units and Brood War.

I feel like a conservative bitch saying this, but use your own fucking vocabulary to describe your favorite sc2 players. It's a totally different game, they can't be compared.]

EDIT: LOOK... bonjwas came around when the metagame truly felt sustained and constant (like sc2 now) and then here comes this mother fucker like savior (forgive me...) who turned this whole game inside the fuck out. You don't fucking know what it's like to have a game like bw turned inside out. It's a mind fuck. You (OP), an intelligent, stubborn, free thinking person, couldn't even imagine this new style of playing, yet here it is.

R E S P E C T
K3Nyy
Profile Joined February 2010
United States1961 Posts
October 09 2012 17:38 GMT
#23
There are so much more tournaments these days compared to in BW, that I don't think anyone can dominate for an extended period of time.
Depetrify
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
978 Posts
October 09 2012 17:39 GMT
#24
Haypro was the first SC2 bonjwa, and I really don't see him being replaced until Legacy of the Void.
jdseemoreglass
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States3773 Posts
October 09 2012 17:40 GMT
#25
Another 5/5 blog. Well done OP.
"If you want this forum to be full of half-baked philosophy discussions between pompous faggots like yourself forever, stay the course captain vanilla" - FakeSteve[TPR], 2006
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33468 Posts
October 09 2012 17:42 GMT
#26
argh, go to hell
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
Djzapz
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada10681 Posts
October 09 2012 17:47 GMT
#27
Nobody's short-lived domination have been worthy of the Bonjwa title. I think it's not all about winning though, it's also about how you win.
"My incompetence with power tools had been increasing exponentially over the course of 20 years spent inhaling experimental oven cleaners"
bonifaceviii
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada2890 Posts
October 09 2012 17:52 GMT
#28
On October 10 2012 02:42 Waxangel wrote:
argh, go to hell

Stay a while and listen || http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=354018
a176
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada6688 Posts
October 09 2012 17:55 GMT
#29
On October 10 2012 00:12 DJWilma wrote:
So am I right that Rain is looking like the first real contender as Bonjwa, since MVP?


from your last blogs you dont really have an understanding of the terms from bw. dont take this the wrong way, but you can save yourself the humility and embarrassment by stop pretending that you do.
starleague forever
Cokefreak
Profile Joined June 2011
Finland8095 Posts
October 09 2012 18:04 GMT
#30
On October 10 2012 00:54 monk. wrote:
No one is or has ever been even remotely close to Bonjwa status in sc2.

True, the only one that is even on the right track is Mvp and even he is far away from it.
Kanaz
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark658 Posts
October 09 2012 18:07 GMT
#31
tbh, people who will deny MVP being close to bonjwa status is just fools.
He has reigned supreme for ½-1year, and outside that performed quite stable, being the most succesive sc2 player atm, - by a far margin i'd say.
Maybe mc is close in prize earnings, but a lot of those come from foreign tournaments (no offense, but the level of play isnt equal to GSL code s (which mvp has won most of his prizes)).
Maybe bonjwa can't be applied to sc2, but everyone knows the meaning of the word, and that is why we use it.
btw, rain can't be considered anything close to as succesive as mvp before a 1½ year, with 4 gsl code s titles on his back, and maybe a OSL / wcg victory aswell.
Fragmaaad
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States123 Posts
October 09 2012 18:09 GMT
#32
I try so hard to like your blogs, but its impossible..
Gangnam style
krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
October 09 2012 18:15 GMT
#33
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Whatson
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United States5357 Posts
October 09 2012 18:25 GMT
#34
Learn what a bonjwa is before calling Rain one.
And please, close this thread, you're only going to further embarass yourself.
¯\_(シ)_/¯
DJWilma
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Canada740 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-09 18:38:52
October 09 2012 18:37 GMT
#35
Brings up discussion about if Rain pulls of both GSL and OSL, and continues to do so for an extended period of time, he will be considered dominant in SC2, and could get Bonjwa status on just a theoretical basis

Team Liquid reads the words Rain and Bonjwa in the same sentence and...

*TL Reaction*

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I write stuff on LiquidDota also I own omwproductions.com
Heyoka
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Katowice25012 Posts
October 09 2012 18:39 GMT
#36
Bonjwa is a term meant only to describe Savior that sometimes we use retroactively to talk about other player's careers. No one in SC2 will have that applied to them.
@RealHeyoka | ESL / DreamHack StarCraft Lead
Kanaz
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark658 Posts
October 09 2012 18:40 GMT
#37
Ofc Flash if the most dominant example of a bonjwa, since his ELO / win% was that much higher than a lot of the others bonjwa ( in a shortier period tho ).
MVP had his ½-1 year with a insanely high win% aswell, and as i stated he's not a bonjwa, but he isnt far from either.
Look at nada / boxer / savior / iloveoov, they didnt have the same high elo / win%, but some of them - nada & boxer, had a much longer timespan.
I would compare MVP's run so far to savior / iloveoov, since they had a "burst" aswell, and then proceeded to fall in their ELO / win%.
- ELO is used as of TL wiki improved elo: "glicko-2 rating"
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19295 Posts
October 09 2012 18:43 GMT
#38
It's ok guys, Bisu plays SC2. Soon people won't even remember the word Bonjwa. Kim Taek Shin will be the new status in the years to come.
ModeratorFormer Afreeca Starleague Caster: http://afreeca.tv/ASL2ENG2
Condor Hero
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States2931 Posts
October 09 2012 18:52 GMT
#39
On October 10 2012 03:43 BisuDagger wrote:
It's ok guys, Bisu plays SC2. Soon people won't even remember the word Bonjwa. Kim Taek Shin will be the new status in the years to come.

Thought it was Kim Taek Yong
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19295 Posts
October 09 2012 19:13 GMT
#40
On October 10 2012 03:52 Condor Hero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2012 03:43 BisuDagger wrote:
It's ok guys, Bisu plays SC2. Soon people won't even remember the word Bonjwa. Kim Taek Shin will be the new status in the years to come.

Thought it was Kim Taek Yong

Yong is replaced with Shin. It means god. This was the name given to him during his tripple MSL run because he was unstoppable. He was the original god.
ModeratorFormer Afreeca Starleague Caster: http://afreeca.tv/ASL2ENG2
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