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Beef Noodles
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States937 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-20 17:02:35
September 20 2012 16:58 GMT
#1
Hey TL,

I am curious.

Are there any features you would like to see added to Google+ (specifically the Hangouts feature)?

Any issues you have with the interface, features, limitations, platform, or the product itself?

I don't know if blogs is the best place for this, but I would like to turn this thread into a place to voice complaints about Google+ and provide ways to improve it.

It can be as trivial as "the audio quality on hangouts sucks," to something like "it would be awesome to be able to use Google+ to stream Starcraft.

Thanks,
Beef

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itsjustatank
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Hong Kong9179 Posts
September 20 2012 17:43 GMT
#2
Are you a Google engineer? What I'd say is (and I know its very unlikely), it would be cool to be able to watch Twitch streams with people like you can with YouTube.
Photographer"nosotros estamos backamos" - setsuko
RoyGBiv_13
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1275 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-20 19:01:39
September 20 2012 18:59 GMT
#3
A team coding environment would be absolutely awesome. Think about it, everyone can edit the same files, which are constantly displaying the changes. At any point, anyone can freeze a copy and begin a build process to test/deploy, while people are still working on the code (on a separate copy that may overwrite the building copy once the build completes, but you may want an option for how that works). Would be double cool, maybe even triple cool, if you could submit build tools directly into the hangout, and have it executed in the cloud

EDIT: sorry for the ambition, just sitting at work thinking of cool stuff you could do with a dynamic social environment. Same thing that got me interested in brood war custom maps in the first place!
Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
September 20 2012 19:46 GMT
#4
On September 21 2012 03:59 RoyGBiv_13 wrote:
A team coding environment would be absolutely awesome. Think about it, everyone can edit the same files, which are constantly displaying the changes. At any point, anyone can freeze a copy and begin a build process to test/deploy, while people are still working on the code (on a separate copy that may overwrite the building copy once the build completes, but you may want an option for how that works). Would be double cool, maybe even triple cool, if you could submit build tools directly into the hangout, and have it executed in the cloud

EDIT: sorry for the ambition, just sitting at work thinking of cool stuff you could do with a dynamic social environment. Same thing that got me interested in brood war custom maps in the first place!


It was called Wave.. no one used it.
NotBillMurray
Profile Joined September 2012
Canada52 Posts
September 20 2012 20:22 GMT
#5
Invite all Facebook/gmail contacts button.

Lets get G+ populated.
NotBillMurray
Profile Joined September 2012
Canada52 Posts
September 20 2012 20:23 GMT
#6
On September 21 2012 04:46 skyR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2012 03:59 RoyGBiv_13 wrote:
A team coding environment would be absolutely awesome. Think about it, everyone can edit the same files, which are constantly displaying the changes. At any point, anyone can freeze a copy and begin a build process to test/deploy, while people are still working on the code (on a separate copy that may overwrite the building copy once the build completes, but you may want an option for how that works). Would be double cool, maybe even triple cool, if you could submit build tools directly into the hangout, and have it executed in the cloud

EDIT: sorry for the ambition, just sitting at work thinking of cool stuff you could do with a dynamic social environment. Same thing that got me interested in brood war custom maps in the first place!


It was called Wave.. no one used it.

This is the other thing. G+ has a lot of things that nobody knows about or knows how to use. Get the knowledge out there somehow.
Beef Noodles
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States937 Posts
September 20 2012 21:28 GMT
#7
On September 21 2012 02:43 itsjustatank wrote:
Are you a Google engineer? What I'd say is (and I know its very unlikely), it would be cool to be able to watch Twitch streams with people like you can with YouTube.

So you can do this, but only with YouTube streams. If an independent developer wanted to make a Hangout app that worked for Twitch, Google wouldn't stop them. I don't think Google will make one for Twitch any time in the near future.
Beef Noodles
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States937 Posts
September 20 2012 21:38 GMT
#8
On September 21 2012 03:59 RoyGBiv_13 wrote:
A team coding environment would be absolutely awesome. Think about it, everyone can edit the same files, which are constantly displaying the changes. At any point, anyone can freeze a copy and begin a build process to test/deploy, while people are still working on the code (on a separate copy that may overwrite the building copy once the build completes, but you may want an option for how that works). Would be double cool, maybe even triple cool, if you could submit build tools directly into the hangout, and have it executed in the cloud

EDIT: sorry for the ambition, just sitting at work thinking of cool stuff you could do with a dynamic social environment. Same thing that got me interested in brood war custom maps in the first place!

So there are programs like this, and they are used by engineers at major tech companies. Unfortunately, it doesn't make much sense from a "Hangouts" point of view, because it is so specific. But, what Google could do is add a syntax checker onto the Hangouts doc program, which you can share. It would still have its problems, and you couldn't run the code in Hangouts, but it might serve your purpose.

Thanks for the feedback!
Beef Noodles
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States937 Posts
September 20 2012 21:39 GMT
#9
On September 21 2012 05:22 NotBillMurray wrote:
Invite all Facebook/gmail contacts button.

Lets get G+ populated.

Facebook terms and services doesn't allow this... what a bummer.
Beef Noodles
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States937 Posts
September 20 2012 21:47 GMT
#10
On September 21 2012 05:23 NotBillMurray wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2012 04:46 skyR wrote:
On September 21 2012 03:59 RoyGBiv_13 wrote:
A team coding environment would be absolutely awesome. Think about it, everyone can edit the same files, which are constantly displaying the changes. At any point, anyone can freeze a copy and begin a build process to test/deploy, while people are still working on the code (on a separate copy that may overwrite the building copy once the build completes, but you may want an option for how that works). Would be double cool, maybe even triple cool, if you could submit build tools directly into the hangout, and have it executed in the cloud

EDIT: sorry for the ambition, just sitting at work thinking of cool stuff you could do with a dynamic social environment. Same thing that got me interested in brood war custom maps in the first place!


It was called Wave.. no one used it.

This is the other thing. G+ has a lot of things that nobody knows about or knows how to use. Get the knowledge out there somehow.

While I agree with you, remember that it takes time. Google has too many great products to promote and explain them all at once to the masses.

On the one hand, most of the conversations I have with people is them saying, "Wouldn't it be great if Google invented something that could do X." Then I tell them, "Google does have something that does X."

On the other hand, Google has products that do A, B, C, D, E, F, G, H, I, J, K, L, M, N... Z. They can't launch major product campaigns every day explaining everything, so Google hopes that the great products will spread by word of mouth. Actually, traditionally, Google has fought against spending money on marketing, because they believe the money should go entirely into development, and the product with then speak for itself. This Google mentality is changing for the reason you said -- without marketing, people don't even realize Google has already created what they are looking for.
Aerisky
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States12129 Posts
September 21 2012 01:44 GMT
#11
Wait, so ARE you a google engineer? So awesome!!

And indeed, if they were able to explain the entire thing quickly, clearly, and in an engaging manner, that would be much appreciated. A small and quick tour of all the little features would help. It doesn't help that people are cemented in facebook and that g+ doesn't seem to offer quite the same organized little experience with all of your friends regularly posting there.
Jim while Johnny had had had had had had had; had had had had the better effect on the teacher.
Beef Noodles
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States937 Posts
September 21 2012 02:12 GMT
#12
On September 21 2012 10:44 Aerisky wrote:
Wait, so ARE you a google engineer? So awesome!!

And indeed, if they were able to explain the entire thing quickly, clearly, and in an engaging manner, that would be much appreciated. A small and quick tour of all the little features would help. It doesn't help that people are cemented in facebook and that g+ doesn't seem to offer quite the same organized little experience with all of your friends regularly posting there.

I'm not an engineer. It's my job to identify problems with the product, offer solutions, and come up with new ideas. Then, they see if they can do it.
calgar
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States1277 Posts
September 21 2012 02:53 GMT
#13
As for features I think it's very good... IMO it's mostly just a critical mass issue of everyone being elsewhere. Why go over when no one else you know is, and even if some do, most others won't, etc. I get an email every now or then about it and they suggest friends but I barely use my google contacts so its always kind of funny who it suggests. But props to them for cleverly trying to increase use.
Aerisky
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States12129 Posts
September 21 2012 03:28 GMT
#14
On September 21 2012 11:12 Beef Noodles wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2012 10:44 Aerisky wrote:
Wait, so ARE you a google engineer? So awesome!!

And indeed, if they were able to explain the entire thing quickly, clearly, and in an engaging manner, that would be much appreciated. A small and quick tour of all the little features would help. It doesn't help that people are cemented in facebook and that g+ doesn't seem to offer quite the same organized little experience with all of your friends regularly posting there.

I'm not an engineer. It's my job to identify problems with the product, offer solutions, and come up with new ideas. Then, they see if they can do it.

Ah, gotcha. That's really really cool :D Good luck!

Encouraging others to make good apps for G+ is definitely a good one. The trick really is getting people to switch en masse there, because that's probably the biggest motivator as far as I can tell; the biggest reason to go to a social network is that your friends are on that social network. You'd have to make something so enticing that people would be drawn to it on a regular basis to get them to switch just voluntarily hm.
Jim while Johnny had had had had had had had; had had had had the better effect on the teacher.
rebdomine
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
6040 Posts
September 21 2012 06:48 GMT
#15
On September 21 2012 12:28 Aerisky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2012 11:12 Beef Noodles wrote:
On September 21 2012 10:44 Aerisky wrote:
Wait, so ARE you a google engineer? So awesome!!

And indeed, if they were able to explain the entire thing quickly, clearly, and in an engaging manner, that would be much appreciated. A small and quick tour of all the little features would help. It doesn't help that people are cemented in facebook and that g+ doesn't seem to offer quite the same organized little experience with all of your friends regularly posting there.

I'm not an engineer. It's my job to identify problems with the product, offer solutions, and come up with new ideas. Then, they see if they can do it.

Ah, gotcha. That's really really cool :D Good luck!

Encouraging others to make good apps for G+ is definitely a good one. The trick really is getting people to switch en masse there, because that's probably the biggest motivator as far as I can tell; the biggest reason to go to a social network is that your friends are on that social network. You'd have to make something so enticing that people would be drawn to it on a regular basis to get them to switch just voluntarily hm.


Korean idols using G+ is enough reason for me lol.
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