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Specifically I'd like to get the opinions of people who have little to no fighting game watching experience. Do you find the matches exciting, confusing, boring, or what? And which games are more confusing or more intense?
I used to be in the "scene" but fell out of it when sc2 came along. During the sf4 games the other day I began thinking that maybe I should have stayed with fighters. Not only are the games hella hype but the community aspect, in my opinion, is way better than what sc2 has to offer. I used to go to one of several friend's houses every weekend, sometimes more than that, and we'd play games all night long drinking, smoking, etc. I went on road trips at least once a month at one point, there were always people asking "wanna head down to austin this weekend? houston? atlanta? california? There was always something to do and more times than not you could rely on people for rides, equipment, etc whenever you happened to need any of that. I have SO many stories from that time in my life. One that stands out perhaps the most was seeing a first to 15 mcv2 money match with $48k on the line. So far I haven't seen anything that rivals that for excitement or emotion in my times watching sc2 tournaments.
soooooo whaddya think
 
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A nice change of pace, although it got boring for me after 10 minutes. I could never really get into fighting games, despite growing up around king of fighters and tekken.
Certainly not as exciting as watching eagle's BW stream, which was going on at the same time.
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so boring. i dont understand the skill behind button mashing. Maybe its more than thats but I cant get my head round it.
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Watching and loving it. I don't play any of the games, but I know how hard it is to do the things they do, and it's really fun to watch.
UMVC3 can be a little confusing, but still fun.
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you should tune in later when the street fighter finals are live. it's a slow enough game that you will be able to see that they aren't just button mashing
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Mortal combat was badass. I dont like Fighting games but the players are really entertaining and engage the croud. Casters keep the excitement going also. When that bro paused to look up fatality and then failed the execution and got booos from audiance for like 3 Minutes i fuckin died . im sure sf4 wont dissapoint
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yeah im watching. its no starcraft but it's still pretty fun
also pstar, seriously? don't be retarded
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I love fighting games, but comparing and contrasting different gaming communities seems silly and pointless. If you wanna hang out with people who play fighting games, go for it. If you wanna gather round some computers and play some sc2 with others.......wait for it........go for it.
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On July 09 2012 07:31 pStar wrote:
so boring. i dont understand the skill behind button mashing. Maybe its more than thats but I can get my head round it.
It makes you look dumb to claim that it is button mashing when you don't know anything about it.
For me, I don't have much fighting game experience, but it's still fun to tune into the stream from time to time.
I found SF4 pretty interesting to watch for a little while.
uMVC3 has a lot going on visually so it was hard for me to follow.
ST finals yesterday were amazing.
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I'm a casual fighting game watcher, I used to play maybe 10 years ago before I switched completely to PC games. I enjoy watching SF4 and Tekken. I really dislike Marvel and MK though.
Watch some EVO every year.
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I've been tuning in occasionally over the weekend, and I really only find myself interested in sf4. MVC just looks like chaos and winning off of ridiculous combos. At one point while I was watching, a caster said "If that was on purpose that move was SICK"... without really knowing anything about it, just the way that game looks like it plays really makes it look dumb.
I'm going to keep tuning in, hopefully I catch some more interesting stuff!
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I never ever watched pro fighting games tell this EVO and it's a blast, Some of the games are a bit boring imo, But Street fighter Super Turbo was so damn good. I Don't really care for MvC3 I do like MvC2 alot I went and watch some of those old vods. after ST was done last night.
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I watch it and it is definetly entertaining. Mainly watch KOF and SF4 not that big a marvel fan but I guess the finals can be good
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I skipped HSCV completely to watch EVO. I've been to multiple MLGs and Blizzcon, nothing matches the fighting game community for me. I also didn't know about Fighting game community until 2 years of playing SC2 and joining teamliquid.
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It's pretty cool so far. I don't feel compelled to actually pick up a fighting game, but I enjoyed watching. The pacing is fast, and I kinda wish they took like 20 second breaks in between sets, but otherwise I like the pacing from game to game. I also like the crowd rivalries and the fact it's not just massive fanboyism for one player over another. Also, maybe it's just cause I know pretty much nothing about the game, but I really like the commentators, or at least most of them, and in particular the SF ones. They're all really technical and the pacing of the commentary is waaay better than SC where it's incredibly boring and just color commentary 90% of the time.
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On July 09 2012 07:42 farvacola wrote:
I love fighting games, but comparing and contrasting different gaming communities seems silly and pointless. If you wanna hang out with people who play fighting games, go for it. If you wanna gather round some computers and play some sc2 with others.......wait for it........go for it.
i dont understand this post... are you trying to tell me that i'm not allowed to favor one community over the other? or just that i'm not allowed to be vocal about my choice? i didnt do any "compare and contrasting," i just said which one i preferred. sure i'll grant that you cant make a reasonable comparison between two different things but regardless of that there can still be one that i enjoy being a part of more than the other.
On July 09 2012 07:59 Itsmedudeman wrote:
It's pretty cool so far. I don't feel compelled to actually pick up a fighting game, but I enjoyed watching. The pacing is fast, and I kinda wish they took like 20 second breaks in between sets, but otherwise I like the pacing from game to game. I also like the crowd rivalries and the fact it's not just massive fanboyism for one player over another. Also, maybe it's just cause I know pretty much nothing about the game, but I really like the commentators, or at least most of them, and in particular the SF ones. They're all really technical and the pacing of the commentary is waaay better than SC where it's incredibly boring and just color commentary 90% of the time.
make sure you tune into the street fighter iv finals tonight, they are going to be so much more intense than you would expect anything in esports to be. also i think, out of all the games sfiv is the easiest to understand. a brief description of the game: basically every move you could do is either safe or unsafe against any other move your opponent could do. you want to use moves that are extremely safe vs everything in order to control the spacing between the two characters. an example of this type of move would be a projectile. they either have to neutral jump to avoid it thus not gaining any distance between their character and yours, they can block it which has the same effect except they have a little more control over their character because they're on the ground but you they take a small amount of chip (block) damage, or if they are close enough to you they can risk jumping at you and trying for a combo while your character is still in the recovery animations of throwing the projectile. however this is the biggest gamble because if you timed your fireball correctly, you will be able to recover in time to land an anti air as they are jumping down on you. all character have an ideal range they want to be in of all the other characters where they will be able to most control the game. there's a lot of mind games and it takes a lot of experience with the game to know exactly why they are throwing out what seem to be "random" moves.
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i've never played any of the games being shown (outside of a 5minute session with vanilla SF4) and they are hella fun to watch. it's not too hard to catch on to and understand what is happening since the commentators do such a good job pointing out what is hard and what is a mistake. very few games can replicate the constant excitement and the "HOLY SHIT" epic moments fighting games provide.
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I dont understand shit. Like really I have no idea whats going on, I mean I know when someone is losing and when someone is winning, and I know the winner did some cool combo moves or counters or something along those lines. But man, that does not tell me anything.
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KoF in comparison to the other games is pretty easy to follow but it is so hard to get into these games, is there even a single Fighting Game with a decent match making system?
I tried SF4AE on the 360 but there is no real Match Making, nothing is preventing people from leaving the game before it starts.
Also latency ruins those games and as far as i know every game is p2p without any dedicated servers.
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On July 09 2012 08:28 icydergosu wrote:
KoF in comparison to the other games is pretty easy to follow but it is so hard to get into these games, is there even a single Fighting Game with a decent match making system?
I tried SF4AE on the 360 but there is no real Match Making, nothing is preventing people from leaving the game before it starts.
Also latency ruins those games and as far as i know every game is p2p without any dedicated servers.
people that play fighting games competitively dont really play online for the reasons you mentioned. (latency etc) the best way to play fighting games is to find the nearest group that plays. they are more numerous and more fun to hang out with than you'd think. if you live in one of the states known for being competitive you shouldn't have to drive more than an hour to find a place to play. a few years ago there was a dude who lived about 5 minutes from me who had turned his house into an arcade. there was a big ass screen downstairs with several couches, a few pc setups running emulators of the more obscure games in the kitchen, and upstairs there were around 6-8 console setups running the most popular games of the time. on top of that all the stations had arcade sticks so you didnt need to worry about bringing one unless yours was modded and you preferred to use it. we ran $5 entry tournaments every night once there was a good crowd and played casuals until 4am sometimes. also, beer
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On July 09 2012 07:31 pStar wrote:
so boring. i dont understand the skill behind button mashing. Maybe its more than thats but I cant get my head round it.
Button mashing is what noobs do. Stay free.
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I don't like it personally I find it very boring and will never watch it or anything. I play them sometimes for fun, but I get bored after about 15 minutes.
You say it has a better community then sc2, that is probably true because it is smaller then sc2. Back in BW the community was a lot better as well (you did not see much balance whining in LR threads for example was a rare sight).
As with anything, the bigger it gets the worse the community gets due to the influx of stupid people  .
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I don't think the FGC is smaller at all. SC2 numbers are actually not that high, especially when you compare them to dota and LoL. Look at the evo stream, we're at 100k viewers
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fgc is pretty much all real life interaction, while sc2 tends to be about reddit and sotg. of course sc2 has it's barcrafts but it doesnt have a huge network of groups who meet in person several days of week
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well at this point it safe to say that the one thing that the starcraft and fighting game communities have in common is that koreans dominate everything
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yeah. damn, the sfiv finals were kinda ass. nobody except infiltration seemed to be playing at their top level. maybe it had something to do with the huge gap between games from friday till just now
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Once players become skillful enough that they can execute moves/combos with minimal error, fighting games are pretty enjoyable as a spectator sport. It's like the gamer's version of boxing or UFC. Whereas sc2 is like the gamer's version of chess. Each brings about different types of fun :D
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On July 09 2012 16:21 PassionFruit wrote:
Once players become skillful enough that they can execute moves/combos with minimal error, fighting games are pretty enjoyable as a spectator sport. It's like the gamer's version of boxing or UFC. Whereas sc2 is like the gamer's version of chess. Each brings about different types of fun :D
Yeah, I would have chosen the same comparison. Why would you watch chess when you could watch CHESS ON CRACK WITH PEOPLE PUNCHING THEIR FACES
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Top 8 SF was so ass. Except for infil none of them played like they even derserve to make top 16 major.
Like come on Rog, missing triple jab short headbutt ultra. REALLY DUDE?
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I watched some and I find it pretty cool.
I had no idea what was happening but there was obviously a lot of skill there.
It's at least as entertaining as SC2.
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