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United States1759 Posts
So I recently attended a christian rock concert as part of an event that my church decided it would have its teen group go to. My mom works at the church and specifically in the teen program so I really have no choice in the matter. I also don't mind doing it to make my mom happy because I know how bad it would look if you were the leader a teen group your own son didn't go to. But enough ranting and now onto the story.
I walk into this christian rock concert that i'm not all to excited about going to in the first place + Show Spoiler +(don't like christian rock) Basically its this ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/2kVm2.jpg) But on a T-shirt
I think at this point in my life I've come to the realization that ignorance isn't a theist or atheist issue, but a human issue.
"where one cannot love, one should pass by" - Nietzsche
I guess god really might be dead.
*If religious blogs aren't allowed on TL ill more then happily edit this blog out and accept the close.
  
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I've seen that quote as well, and indeed it merely appears to be a superficial counterpunch to those who don't understand philosophy, but are just more centrally focused on the belief that God always gets the last laugh. It surely appeals to most of the theistic community (most obviously have not read Nietzsche and think it's a clever, supportive quote for their beliefs), so it gets the job done. It also irritates irrelevant people, which ends up being fine. There's obviously no intention of it being correct on an educational level, especially if you compare it to so many other religious quotes that attempt to belittle opposing facts or opinions (like misrepresenting evolution and the big bang, the difference between a scientific theory and a colloquial theory, etc.).
You probably should have started a conversation with the guy selling shirts. Not an aggressive, argumentative one. But just a casual discussion about the quotes (if a casual discussion about religion and philosophy can actually exist... lol).
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This is actually one of the reasons I stopped believing when I was about 8 years old. That's when I started noticing all the hypocrisy of religion and the absurdity of it all. To each his own, I guess, but to me it's all a fairytale that people have believed in for much, much too long.
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You have idiots everywhere man, best to ignore them.
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I don't think there's much wrong with this blog, just that some people have extremely strong feelings about the subject and want to debate about it or even worse, jump into conclusions or derail the topic with things that are irrelevant to the original poster.
It's not that God is dead, just that you can never feel his presence near merchandise and ignorant, untolerant people. That's not what religion is about, and it's no wonder you felt bad about it.
I know that they sell a lot of ridiculous crap there, basically people looking to gain money out of stupid people and completely forget what religion is really about. It's really not about judging people, being untolerant or anything like that. However, there are a lot of ignorant atheists as well, and they do just as much ridiculous stuff. (Remember large banners of: "God probably doesn't exist. Go an live your life" ?)
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Norway28520 Posts
dude, it's a hilarious joke. nothing more.. that you are so offended merely shows me that religious groups don't have a monopoly on unwarranted feelings of being offended. 
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He was non-believer spawn of satan, who spread blasphemy.
In all seriousness, i believe most of groups create themselves an archenemy of popular past or present figures, it's in human nature to find someone to deem inferior and be happy about it.
I would also like to say, if you believe in god, don't abandon your faith just because someone else believes differently, it is really hard to find 2 people in whole world who imagine what god is about in the exact same way. Do whatever makes you happy and let others do whatever makes them happy 
I myself really love Nietzsche, after lots of philosophers he's the one i agree the most with. Also i don't worship god in any way, and believe in occam's razor, aka i am a naturalist.
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On July 08 2012 20:35 Ahzz wrote:
I don't think there's much wrong with this blog, just that some people have extremely strong feelings about the subject and want to debate about it or even worse, jump into conclusions or derail the topic with things that are irrelevant to the original poster.
It's not that God is dead, just that you can never feel his presence near merchandise and ignorant, untolerant people. That's not what religion is about, and it's no wonder you felt bad about it.
I know that they sell a lot of ridiculous crap there, basically people looking to gain money out of stupid people and completely forget what religion is really about. It's really not about judging people, being untolerant or anything like that. However, there are a lot of ignorant atheists as well, and they do just as much ridiculous stuff. (Remember large banners of: "God probably doesn't exist. Go an live your life" ?)
I don't think that's the same as what the OP is talking about though. I think the quote you're referencing is analogous to all those theistic bumper stickers about how we should use a belief in God in our daily lives, or center our lives around him, or continuously be thinking about him. From an atheist's perspective, it's the opposite: "He probably doesn't exist, just go lead a good and happy life", explaining how the belief in God can ultimately be irrelevant (in the sense that you can have a wonderful life with or without God).
I have yet to see an atheist bumper sticker that directly misrepresents a scientific, mathematical, or philosophical fact or opinion in order to push the atheist "agenda". (That's not to say that none exist, but if they do, I'd like to see a picture of one.) And, to be fair, I think that the majority of theistic bumper stickers don't do that either (they usually just stick to God or Prayer or Love or that Jesus Fish symbol), but there are plenty of religious fundamentalists who do lie about facts, and there are stickers of those as well (especially the topics that I referred to in my previous post).
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United States1759 Posts
On July 08 2012 20:40 Liquid`Drone wrote:dude, it's a hilarious joke. nothing more.. that you are so offended merely shows me that religious groups don't have a monopoly on unwarranted feelings of being offended.
Err, I'm sorry but i don't quite understand your point of view (which I can almost guarantee you is my own fault). I can see how it could easily be portrayed as a joke but the context of the event, situation and the general mindset of the people I interacted with wearing those shirts suggests against it.
I think I would have picked up on if it was meant as a joke, i'm not easily offended at all but this pushed my buttons for some reason.
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I don't even understand the 'joke' behind the 'Nietzsche is dead' part. Could anybody explain?
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haha thats been my profile pic for as long as I can remember.
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The true quote is the following:
God is dead - Nietzsche
Nietzsche is dead - God
God is Nietzsche - Death
Shut up I wanna sleep! - Satan
BTW , If I made a blog everytime my religious feelings got hurt, well then... I would be an Ultralisk.
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On July 08 2012 20:55 krndandaman wrote:
nietzsche said god is dead
nietzsche died in 1900
god decides who dies and when therefore he gets the last laugh by saying nietzsche is dead .
So, it's an insider for christians who want to laugh about someone who challenged their point of view.. Funny, I laughed........ O.o
Christian X says 'God will save me' - Yesterday
Rational Y says 'I just killed Christian X' - Today
LOL it's funny because X said he will be saved by god but in the end he still died LOLOL ...... o.O
Some people have a retarded sense of humor.
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If I debunked every atheist joke on the internet by blogging it on TL, then I would have a golden writer icon by now.
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didnt read, but: Flash is dead????!!?!??!
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On July 08 2012 21:35 Paljas wrote:
didnt read, but: Flash is dead????!!?!??!
Was wondering when someone would randomly talk about Flash.
It would be nice if you at least read (or didn't advertise the fact that you're too cool to read).
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On July 08 2012 21:37 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:Show nested quote +On July 08 2012 21:35 Paljas wrote:
didnt read, but: Flash is dead????!!?!??! Was wondering when someone would randomly talk about Flash. It would be nice if you at least read (or didn't advertise the fact that you're too cool to read).
well i read ofc, but that wouldnt fit with the flash joke.
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