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It has gotten to a point where it is driving me crazy.
Long story short, there is a girl I like. But I just dont know........
aargg I always hear people say 'just ask her out' bla bla but what if it doesnt work? We go to the same school so it will be forever awkward ,,,
hmmmmm she is so pretty, and smart, and just........
hmmmm
I think it is more complicated then just asking someone out. You have to earn their respect, through hard work.
Yeh maybe........maybe i will go down that route
   
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Just go talk to her and get to know her. What's the worst that could happen?
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On June 21 2012 21:16 Anacletus wrote: Just go talk to her and get to know her. What's the worst that could happen? saying no, which i guess doesnt sound too bad. I dont know.......maybe she doesnt like me and it would be awkward for her....i think i will have to earn her respect first
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Does anyone think there are relationships that will never happen?
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It won't happen unless you go and talk to her!
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Erm by the time you earn her respect you'll be forever lost in the friendzone. My advice? Forget this girl, she is obviously out of your league.
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No risk, no reward. When you think to yourself about how great this girl is and how much you'd like to be with her, just remember that that can never possibly happen if you don't go talk to her.
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On June 21 2012 21:21 iTzSnypah wrote: Erm by the time you earn her respect you'll be forever lost in the friendzone. My advice? Forget this girl, she is obviously out of your league. yeh this is the advice i was afraid of, but realised it is the most likely
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Try to be friends with her first! A relationship that burns furiously will extinguish early, while a relationship that has been built slowly and steadily will last.
+ Show Spoiler +Take what I say with a grain of salt. Never had a girlfriend before.
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Ask her out you moron.
"Forever awkward", no it won't. You'll get over her very quickly if she doesn't say yes.
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When it comes to women , you have to be the "DO IT" guy and not the "Think about it" guy.
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On June 21 2012 21:40 Azera wrote:Try to be friends with her first! A relationship that burns furiously will extinguish early, while a relationship that has been built slowly and steadily will last. + Show Spoiler +Take what I say with a grain of salt. Never had a girlfriend before. Yeah friends first seems to work for my buddies, tho i've never a had agf either...=(
Azera, i'm coming to sg! TMR! whooo!
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do it. (you wont do it). but yes, talk to her. wanna spend the next 3 months thinking about what ifs? thats where youre headed and its not any better than where you are now i can tell you that!
if you go too slow, youre on the highway to the friendzone. start with something neutral, like a movie perhaps. see how she dresses and acts and stuff. did she hit you on the arm and tell you to shut UP!! etc etc. watch for these little things and gauge her interest in you
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Most of the advice here seems good but I do understand the "Forever-Awkward" thing. It's not like you ask her out and you never have to see her again. You have to see her every day and vice-versa. And then she might (will) go tell all her friends and you won't have a chance with any of them either (This is more amplified in a smaller school). Good luck none the less and I hope you get her.
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yolo man, fucking yolo!
It will suck if she knocks you back, but it will suck even more if she starts getting dicked by another guy while you are still plucking up the courage. trust me.
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How old are you?
I can see you're from Australia. I'm sure you know Australians well enough by now that we don't really care and carry on for too long.
Monday; "OMG DID U HEAR THAT HE ASKED HER OUT AND SHE SAID NO!?" Tuesday; 'Who?'
Really, just go for it son.
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Looks like you have a case of onitis. Just ask her out if you feel confident she'll say yes. What if she says no? How old are you haha. If she says no, then it's no. You can't make her like you. Life goes on man, find another whose better.
Good luck OP.
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In my experience, asking a girl you're obsessing over out can only produce good results.
Either she says yes and you win.
Or she says no which after tiny bit of pain/awkwardness/whatever (depending on your relationship) frees you to find another suitable mate(since you probably won't be obsessing as much).
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Go down the talking route. Rarely there'll be some kind of hard work that'll make someone who doesn't like you, like you.
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Just go to her when she is by herself. Say: Hi whats up! Small talk a bit, for example ask her what she had been doing lately and stuff. Then when it's not awkward anymore just ask her out. She could either answer no, or come up with an excuse, then you just say it's fine, nice talking with you blablabla and move on. If she's not an asshole she will be cool about it.
If she says yes you know what to do. This will mean she's interested in you and you have a chance.
Try to stay cool. You will be nervous, but this experience will help you in the future.
Either way it's a win win situation. If she says no you will have gained experience. If she says yes you will have gained a buddy and maybe a girlfriend! 
Girls like guys that are confident. So try to act confident. She will like the attention she received form you.
Try to imagine you being her. If a girl came up to you and asked you out, you will feel good about it.
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is her name kitty scherbatsky
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Yo mate just screw it, ask her, yolo. Also baylife.
But on a serious note, I'm in university now and one of my greatest regrets from high school is not asking out the girl that I really liked. I somewhat did and she somewhat fended it off saying shit like she "wants to focus on school this year" etc and like a spineless bastard I went something like "oh no, I didn't mean anything like that, I just want to be friends, nothing else". I guess for context I guess I should have said that I asked her out to the movies.
I have forever regretted not just fully telling her how I felt, I regret fucking cowering over to save face and saying that I just wanted to be friends, and I forever regret not being my own man and being confident enough to ask her, which might have contributed to her not reciprocating feelings, maybe not.
Also, critically, I regret fucking dancing around it for a few months like so many people and eventually becoming a friend in her eyes, or as you more commonly know on the interwebs, being friendzoned.
I can absolutely guarantee that a year or two from now or after graduation or whenever, sometime in the future, if she turned you down, you are NOT going to care. It will only improve you and make you stronger for the next girl that you like. You will absolutely regret not asking her out or getting friendzoned Please, learn from the mistakes of those who have gone before you and just do it. If she says "yes"? Sick, you just got the girl that you really like right now and it's gonna be a pretty mad time and memories.
If she turns you down and randoms or your mates ask you "ooo did you ask out X" just answer with "yeah, i did". No need to hide your true feelings, the absolute worst case of people making fun of you (which, by the way, wtf, people just don't really make a big deal out of failed attempts at asking people out, because guess what? They're fucking shy and want to ask out other people too, you're all the same, don't make regrets in high school for yourself, please) will be like during the following week someone will look at you and giggle or say unlucky mate or I can't believe you asked her out.
JUST DO IT! Remember, confidence is everything, when you ask, when she says yes and if she says no and people try to make fun of you or it's embarrassing. Just be confident in yourself and do what you want. It might hurt for a bit if she says no, but who cares, hang out with your mates, play starcraft, masturbate, whatever the crap you do to be happy, those emotions are so brief it's ridiculous, except for regret, that's terminal.
I've probably repeated myself, but for jeebus and everything else in existence, you'll only do a favour by asking her out and only a disservice by not.
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Rename this blog: Road map to the Friend Zone.
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On June 21 2012 23:09 SometimesIworkout wrote: is her name kitty scherbatsky wat ? Ask her out
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On June 21 2012 23:09 SometimesIworkout wrote: is her name kitty scherbatsky
O ya if so you gotta wait. Throw yourself completely into your career, preferably farm work or something. She'll start mooning after some other fella, then have her heart broken when he commits adultery with an older married woman. She'll be depressed for a while, but then she'll send you obvious hints that she wants you so take it from there.
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Either you ask her out and you get a definitive Yes or No, or you don't ask her out and instead spend your life wondering *what could have been* and writing terrible Hypothetical Love blogs on TeamLiquid.
The obvious choice should be to go with the first, and so your real question should be "How do I make a move?" There's always going to be the risk of failure, but if you think the risk of success is more important (and you clearly do, because you frickin like her), then just do it. Worst case scenario: She says No, you move on (eventually).
Here are some tips:
1. You need to always be confident (not arrogant or cocky though). This will also help if she says No. If she turns you down, she's missing out. It's her loss. Always smile and look at her. Make her aware that she's your center of attention.
2. Bring up something she likes. Make sure you know a little about her before actually asking her out on a date. Talking with her a few times beforehand is a good idea. Make small talk; find things you have in common. If she's really passionate about something that you honestly don't know a lot about, ask her about it. Tell her it sounds interesting and ask her to tell you more about it. Then after you talk, go home and research your ass off. Maybe it's a good idea for a first date.
3. If you can't initially find anything in common (but still want to ask her out on a date), pick an event that allows for plenty of interaction between you two, yet can still have a main focus elsewhere to avoid awkward silences. An awesome first date- interestingly enough- is bowling. Neither of you have to be good at it, you can make small talk the entire time, there are occasional celebrations if one of you gets a lot of pins down, and it's a light-hearted environment. An example of a poor first date event would be a movie, as both of you just sit side-by-side in the dark without talking. You may as well not even be there. You can't get to know her better if you take her to a movie (wait for a later date for that). Food after a social event is a nice touch as well, but make sure you have enough conversational ammunition to make it through the meal (again, you want to avoid awkward silences).
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On June 21 2012 23:05 DreamChaser wrote: 5/5 would read again
If you don't have the balls to simply ask than I always thought its common logic... if you have any hobby in common than try getting into a relationship trough that and simply do the ol cheesy stuff and bam. And if you don't have any hobby in common than is it really worth the time ? I mean... it will only last for a short time n.w if not even one of them 1 drunk nights and thats it... if this is the case its no worth wasting your time unless you can simply ask her and walk away if she says no.
Also, i say its oky to just "ask her out" if shes kinda in the same "league" with you, the awkward nerd in class asking out one of the hotest girls... might not work so well. But still there not really any backlash unless shes really a douche... Also, alcohol always makes everything easier... just make sure you are not TOO DRUNK
Edit: Just realized i wrote an answer to a girl blog, really makes me think about where my life is going :/
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Just do something. Anything, no matter how stupid/awkward, is better than nothing.
another tip: don't think or worry about it too much, that kind of stuff will paralyze you. Personal experience fucking sucks.
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Alright now this is more like it, the typical TL girl blog.
Number one. Let's get you up to where you need to be. This is probably more of a mental exercise than a physical exercise, but I think you'll need some of that too. Your mindset needs to put you up there in the same class as her. You think she's so pretty and smart and everything, but hey, you are one heck of a confident man and you're everything she wants in her life. This is a big assumption but probably a necessary one for now. Later on you should drop that assumption because it can grow into some nasty behaviour which can be potentially destructive in a relationship.
Two. It's true you have to "earn" her attention, but it's a not as much of a big deal as you may think it is. Easiest way is to straight up ask her out on a date, have a good time, and induce her curiosity. You go to the same school but that doesn't mean she knows everything about you. Maybe you have some sickass singing voice that she doesn't know about. Girls love talent and if you have one, drop a hint but don't give it to her on the first date.
Three. The big "what if it doesn't work". Well, if it doesn't work, then life moves on. Forever awkward? Only if you make it that way. Besides, if she's not worth the risk, then she's not worth it at all.
Keep it simple, don't try to hit a home run on the first pitch at bat, take it easy and be honest with yourself. Good luck!
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Just come out and say "I FRIGGIN LOVE YOU" randomly in the middle of a casual conversation. She'll fall for your cheese.
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As one of the more ferocious girlblog and pickup warriors around I have to once again smack the public opinion:
Ignore all random advice as to how things should and shouldn't work. Ignore "tricks" and "suggestions". You're at the age where you're supposed to figure this stuff out for yourself, have fun and screw around. Don't START your relationship with girls by being a huge nerd who asks other nerds how this stuff works.
Talk to her, have fun together. Work from there.
If you still haven't figured this out in 2-3 years you can come again and post a "real" girlblog. =P
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Blazinghand
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you know firehand I feel a certain affinity for you since you and I have similar handles. So I'm gonna give you some choice advice here to maximize your chance of achieving true happiness: All women are bitches.
Don't bother trying to go after her, she's only gonna break break your break break your heart. She's only gonna break break your break break your heart
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"forever awkward" doesn't exist. people just like to make a big deal out of everything. it'll be awkward for a few seconds, until your conversation changes topic. asking someone out does not ruin any friendships either, although a relationship might
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Break the ice by just paying her a compliment. Not something crass, like nice rack (lol) instead just comment on how you like her shoes, hair, smile, bag whatever. Women like compliments. Make sure she realises you are being nice and not sarcastic though! Haha. Just talk to her and find out what her interests are. If you have no clue about the things she states she is interested in - ballet or twilight or whatever, then just say so. Don't pretend to be an expert. But feign interest in her hobbys etc and express a desire to learn more. Get her to explain why she likes what she does. Women LOVE talking about themselves! Apart from faking an interest in her hobbies and lying about being impressed with her shoes (which are simply standard courting tools designed to initiate a conversation), try and be honest about everything else. Also try and show you do not take yourself too seriously, women like people who make them laugh and be fun to be around.
The more conversations you have with her, the more you'll know whether she has a personality that you like or not. If she is a nightmare, then she is not worth pursuing. After a few conversations, if you still like her, ask her for if she wants to catch a film, show, concert or whatever. You can generally know whether a girl is into you or not. If she smiles a lot at you, holds your gaze for extended periods, steps close and touches you a lot (on the arm etc) then she is giving you signals that she likes you. If she never smiles at you, moves away and does not want to look at you or touch you at all, then she is probably not interested.
A secret that you may not yet know is that unrequited love happens to EVERYONE. During your life, not everyone you are interested in will reciprocate that interest. And similarly you will meet people who are interested in you, but in whom you have no interest.
The important thing in life is to be yourself and be comfortable with that. Don't try and be someone you are not. She'll either like you for who you are, or she will not, in which case she is not for you. As for the Friend-zone issue. Don't worry about that. If you gain a friend, firstly that's a good thing. Secondly, friendships can grow into relationships. Thirdly, having girls as friends is cool because they will introduce you to their hot friends and vouch for you! Win, win!
Good luck and have fun!
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I assume this is high school?
Do you plan to be in high school forever? Or ask her out in your birthday suit? Otherwise, there's zero chance for it to be forever awkward.
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On June 21 2012 21:16 Anacletus wrote: Just go talk to her and get to know her. What's the worst that could happen?
DEATH, DEATH IS THE WORST THING THAT CAN HAPPEN!
No but yeah, just go talk to her, who cares if it is awkward. I asked my best (girl) friend out once and we are still good friends now (she said no and it crushed my soul).
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You already got your no. All you can get is a yes.
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have you ever heard of Schrödinger's cat?
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United States10089 Posts
Life is too short to waste away. make a move. whats the worst that could happen? she says no? where's your life then? same place. where's your life if she says yes? in an awesome place. no risk, all reward.
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On June 22 2012 02:24 Gecko[Xp] wrote: have you ever heard of Schrödinger's cat?
I really, really hope this is a Big Bang Theory reference.
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On June 21 2012 21:15 firehand101 wrote: It has gotten to a point where it is driving me crazy.
Long story short, there is a girl I like. But I just dont know........
aargg I always hear people say 'just ask her out' bla bla but what if it doesnt work? We go to the same school so it will be forever awkward ,,,
hmmmmm she is so pretty, and smart, and just........
hmmmm
I think it is more complicated then just asking someone out. You have to earn their respect, through hard work.
Yeh maybe........maybe i will go down that route you know what's going to earn her respect?
growing the balls to tell her you like her
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Katowice25012 Posts
I once asked a girl out in high school and she said no. I couldn't tell you her name anymore because I don't remember it.
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On June 22 2012 02:46 heyoka wrote: I once asked a girl out in high school and she said no. I couldn't tell you her name anymore because I don't remember it.
If that doesn't help boost your courage a little bit, I don't know what will. There's too little information for me to give proper advice but why not try asking her out to a movie or some other activities outside of school? You can gauge her interest in you and you get to watch a movie! Good luck.
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I'm 32. One thing I've come to realize over years of dating and now to being married is that we stress out WAY to much about initializing a relationship with them. Soon after you get to know them you'll quickly realize their insecurities which will easily level the playing field.
Perfect example, watch the old show Beauty and the Geek.
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TLADT24920 Posts
hmm, tbh just ask her. The more you wait, the worse it gets because as mentioned, someone else might ask her before you and it'll probably kill you emotionally to see her with someone else. Just do it, you have nothing to lose and all to gain. Best of luck.
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One word baby... Confidence. Don't ask her out like you have something to lose. Just be confident. Ditch the shaky nerd voice, and just tell her you wanna take her out Friday night.
Think, more Stephano swag, less Nestea awkwardness.
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Basically, if you ask her out and she says "no", you will feel upset at first but eventually you will get over it. And, her saying "no" once does not mean you can never talk to her again, although it will be quite awkward. Some guys, however, get chicks through persistence alone.
If you do not ask her out then you will always wonder about what could have been and will regret it forever. So... just talk to her. There is a reason why everyone gives this piece of advice.
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The hard truth:
this is a numbers game, the chances that someone will like you is usually always below 50%, because its a lot easier to not like someone than it is to like them, so all you can do is ask a lot of people to increase your chances. Even if you work your ass off for one person they can always find more "reasons" to not to like you (so don't bother focusing too much on one person).
If a customer doesn't like your product, you can try to improve your product however you can, but you should spend most of your effort on finding a new customer.
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Man. High school is intense 
The most stressful thing in my life is getting out of bed to go to work. Enjoy the nerves, enjoy the shear gut-wrenching sweatiness of anticipation. If that isn't feeling alive, I don't know what is.
Maybe finding fifty bucks down the back of the couch compares, or jumping out of an airplane. When people say life is for living, this is what they mean. Embrace the insanity
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I have read every one of these posts, and they have all been absolutely amazing. They have made me laugh out loud (lol), cry (jks) but my favorite ones were the lengthy posts that made me really think about asking out girls in general.
Haha it is all so simple when I'm on TL. Everything makes so much sense, and I am full of confidence now. Hell, i was full of confidence this morning going to school! Today was the last day of the term, and i was ready to ask her out...
I had planned what i wanted to say and how to do it and everything........BUT FOR FRICGS SAKE all i did when i saw her was say 'hi'
lol, there were so many opportunities to talk to her today, but i just turned away and pretended not to notice her....... IS THAT FUCKING NORMAL?
fml why did i look away and not talk to her? her friends weren't even nearby, and she looked bored and lonely, and i couldnt even say anything........
this is fucked
EDIT: i think i might have a disability when it comes to asking girls out....because of my sick hype in the morning, today i actually talked to so many more girls than usual, but the only one i want to ask out....wtf i pretended not to notice her? am i trying to act cool or something?
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Actually, that is quite normal. It's called fear and it makes your palms sweaty and your brain takes a vacation.
It's not bad, like I said, enjoy it. There will be many years of yours where you wish you could feel that nervous expectation you get from asking someone out. It takes balls and some people are just naturals, others not so much.
There are approximately 3 billion girls in the world, surely you can't fuck up with all of them
Have a great weekend!
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On June 21 2012 21:18 firehand101 wrote: Does anyone think there are relationships that will never happen? kim taeyoon and me. =(
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On June 21 2012 23:29 GTR wrote: give her to me
Arrest this paedophile.
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Fear and anxiety are normal, its what makes it interesting and fun. The only way out of it is just to push through it. Balls to the wall FUCK IT IM GONNA DO IT NO MATTER WHAT! I should take my own advice as well *sigh*
After cold approaching women for a while, it never truly goes away. Rarely do i approach with zero anxiety, there's always a bit of nerves. I have approached with no anxiety but i have to say its not as fun. It feels a lot more satisfying and rewarding to have some anxiety.
Good luck with your endeavours
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On June 21 2012 21:18 firehand101 wrote: Does anyone think there are relationships that will never happen? First off, how old are you? This is relevant to any advice I would give you. Of course there are relationships that will never happen, you can't force someone to like you, that's absurd. Plenty of love interests are very one sided, just because you like someone does not mean that they automatically like you. You need to provide a bit more info in the OP if you're going to ask for advice.
Are you her type? Do you believe you're physically attractive? Anyone that thinks that looks don't matter is lying through their teeth. Sexual attraction is important to any healthy relationship. You SHOULD desire the other person. If you don't believe she feels the same, you can always try to woo her but honestly, you can only do so much to try to make someone like you enough to actually date you.
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On June 22 2012 15:35 firehand101 wrote: I have read every one of these posts, and they have all been absolutely amazing. They have made me laugh out loud (lol), cry (jks) but my favorite ones were the lengthy posts that made me really think about asking out girls in general.
Haha it is all so simple when I'm on TL. Everything makes so much sense, and I am full of confidence now. Hell, i was full of confidence this morning going to school! Today was the last day of the term, and i was ready to ask her out...
I had planned what i wanted to say and how to do it and everything........BUT FOR FRICGS SAKE all i did when i saw her was say 'hi'
lol, there were so many opportunities to talk to her today, but i just turned away and pretended not to notice her....... IS THAT FUCKING NORMAL?
fml why did i look away and not talk to her? her friends weren't even nearby, and she looked bored and lonely, and i couldnt even say anything........
this is fucked
EDIT: i think i might have a disability when it comes to asking girls out....because of my sick hype in the morning, today i actually talked to so many more girls than usual, but the only one i want to ask out....wtf i pretended not to notice her? am i trying to act cool or something? Just don't give up, you obviously felt somewhat baller, so keep trying. If you see her on the holidays or next term, just go for it again. You made some progress by even saying "hi" and eyeing off the opportunities. Next time, you just have to jump off the cliff, just start walking towards her and don't stop. If you can't manage to ask her straight out, just bring up something related to the date that you want to take her on and then transition into asking her out. Keep trying mate, just make sure you do it this year lol, don't leave it too long.
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Don't worry about asking her out. Don't worry once you get rejected.
Once you get past this bump in the road, everything else afterwards seems like smooth sailing. It won't be that bad afterwards if you get rejected. It won't be that awkward, and they'll be other, perhaps even better girls. You'll see another girl in the future, and you'll remember how it wasn't that bad with this current girl, so you'll go for that other girl ezpz.
And better sooner than later. Methinks there is a slim timing before you get relegated into the friend-zone, at least for some girls. GO for it ASAP.
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On June 21 2012 21:40 Azera wrote:Try to be friends with her first! A relationship that burns furiously will extinguish early, while a relationship that has been built slowly and steadily will last. + Show Spoiler +Take what I say with a grain of salt. Never had a girlfriend before. I've had a girlfriend before, and I can say that this is actually really good advice.
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Yeah, what's the worst that can happen if you get rejected? So you feel sad for a few days. There are plenty of fish in the sea ( as cliche as that sounds LOL ) gl! Edit: I would start with some casual conversation, get to know her a little bit and then BAM ask. Anything further (ie, trying to become good friends with her, constant texting, etc) will only land you in the land of no return --> friend zone.
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If she's smart and pretty, she probably has been asked out quite a few times. If you don't make it particularly negatively memorable (by seeming particularly insecure/stumbling over words or creepy/obsessive) then I imagine that the any rejection awkwardness would fade as soon as you let it.
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