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husniack
203 Posts
This blog is not at all about the content of said blog. What I'm wondering is, is there a difference between A: TvZ is a joke Currently B: TvZ is currently a joke I feel as if there is. However, the meaning seems to be exactly the same. Maybe I am just tripping out but this is really bugging me. There's something different about the two and I just can't put my finger on it.  | ||
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Jinsho
United Kingdom3101 Posts
In B the statement is emphasizing the "currently". You get the difference now? | ||
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Probe1
United States17920 Posts
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husniack
203 Posts
On June 18 2012 08:00 Jinsho wrote: In A the statement is emphasizing the word "joke". In B the statement is emphasizing the "currently". You get the difference now? I do, but if you think about the meaning, doesn't the meaning still seem to be the same? What if you took out the "currently." | ||
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Fishgle
United States2174 Posts
meh. as long as you get the point across. Wouldn't worry too much about syntax. English is a language where the order of words mattes, but there are many languages in which order doesn't matter, or at least is a lot more fluid. Do you speak any other language than english OP? Might help you not get mindfucked by this as much. English kinda forces you to think about the order of things. For example: Is TvZ currently a joke =/= TvZ is currently a joke. since feeling is first who pays any attention to the syntax of things will never wholly kiss you | ||
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sam!zdat
United States5559 Posts
There's not really rules about this stuff, you just have to develop an ear for it. If you say: Currently, TvZ is a joke, you are emphasizing the potential for change (ie temporariness) If you say: TvZ is currently a joke, the emphasis is more on the jokiness TvZ is a joke currently is not a very good sentence. | ||
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States45328 Posts
If there were more words in the sentence, then rearranging adjectives and adverbs may change the meaning of a sentence (because then you may be describing or qualifying different things). But from what you're asking, there's no difference in meaning. | ||
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sam!zdat
United States5559 Posts
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Jerubaal
United States7684 Posts
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[UoN]Sentinel
United States11320 Posts
Currently a joke TvZ is. That would be Yoda. But both would work, but I think A would make more sense written as "TvZ is a joke (currently)". It's a slightly different meaning, but that's what I think of when I see the words ordered like that. Like everyone above me says, all matters on emphasis. | ||
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AiurZ
United States429 Posts
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sam!zdat
United States5559 Posts
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Archas
United States6531 Posts
On June 18 2012 08:53 Jerubaal wrote: You should learn the rules before you learn to break the rules. You know the rules, and so do I. | ||
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Gheed
United States972 Posts
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[UoN]Sentinel
United States11320 Posts
On June 18 2012 10:14 AiurZ wrote: one of the function tests of adverbs is that they can be moved freely around the sentence Not really "freely". Nearly is an adverb. In the sentence "My mouse is nearly out of batteries." Nearly describes "out". The only way I see the sentence making sense is "My mouse nearly is out of batteries.", and other than those 2 scenarios I don't see anything. | ||
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Gheed
United States972 Posts
On June 18 2012 10:31 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: Not really "freely". Nearly is an adverb. In the sentence "My mouse is nearly out of batteries." Nearly describes "out". The only way I see the sentence making sense is "My mouse nearly is out of batteries.", and other than those 2 scenarios I don't see anything. Nearly modifies is, not out. Example of variable adverb placement: I frequently enjoy bananas. I enjoy bananas frequently. Frequently, I enjoy bananas. Frequently do I enjoy bananas. | ||
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sam!zdat
United States5559 Posts
edit: maybe you're right | ||
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docvoc
United States5491 Posts
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Gheed
United States972 Posts
Nearly is modifying how full the bucket "is." "Out of batteries" is serving to describe what his mouse nearly is. Edit: this is not to say that adverbs cannot modify adjectives. However, in the case of being "out of something" or "full," those are binary states. So you can't be "almost out" of batteries. You are either out of batteries or you are not. You can "almost be" out of batteries or "be nearly" full, though. | ||
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sam!zdat
United States5559 Posts
On June 18 2012 10:50 Gheed wrote: those are binary states.. Yeah that's why I decided you were right. gheed: 1, samizdat: 0 ...  | ||
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