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I'm starting to watch sc 2 the way I do sports.

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adeezy
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1428 Posts
April 05 2012 03:29 GMT
#1
Well first off the way I watch sports is this, I watch the playoffs and the finals, and once in a while my local team vs some of the top brass (like the lakers, heat, thunder), but other than that I never watch sports.

I used to keep up with starcraft 2, like the gsl and mlg, from the beginning of the event, but now I find myself skipping the main bracket and pool stages and starting to watch at the quarter or semi finals.

Also I say that because I've also lost interest in the foreign scene, in particular, my favorite IdrA who has been insignificant since.... I can't even remember the last time he was significant actually. They just don't compare to the top brass in Korea right now and I'm not really interested in matches that are at the highest stakes or at least the highest skill.

Am I the only one?

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I asked my friend how the ratio at a party was, he replied. "Let's just say for every guy there was two dudes."
Thaniri
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
1264 Posts
April 05 2012 03:32 GMT
#2
This is good, puts more pressure for better content.

However, I personally will watch Kas on any stream, at any event, at any time. I love watching him play, and stream. I can't reason why.

I also watch the best of the best terrans, but also wait for quarter finals and onwards to watch.

It just is not comfortable for me to sit in the crappy chair for 3 hours straight
Angel_
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States1617 Posts
April 05 2012 03:36 GMT
#3
I have interest in the foreign scene, but I am starting to feel a general dislike for mixed tournaments, which makes me feel conflicted. I don't think the foreigners for the most part deserve to even play against most of the koreans, and frankly I think a lot of tournament's formats allow foreigners to place much higher up than they actually deserve, purely to their groups (yay you had an all pvp group when everyone was four gating and you came out on top) and losers brackets. it makes me feel like most foreign tournaments care a lot more about people's favorites than having a game to determine who is actually the best...which sounds okay and all, until i remember that there is an actual prize pool for money.

none of which i actually support with facts. it's just feel. in general i feel like everyone's play is still pretty bad, but foreigners are just..."what are you doing" a lot of the time.
sam!zdat
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5559 Posts
April 05 2012 03:37 GMT
#4
The only tournament that's REALLY worth watching is Code S.
shikata ga nai
unit
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States2621 Posts
April 05 2012 03:40 GMT
#5
On April 05 2012 12:37 sam!zdat wrote:
The only tournament that's REALLY worth watching is Code S.

that depends what you're looking for, personally i watch codes/dreamhacks(following players then all Ro16 on)/mlgs(same approach as dreamhacks)
Harrad
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
1003 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-05 03:52:01
April 05 2012 03:43 GMT
#6
The sad reality is that the foreigner scene will never be able to catch up with the Korean one and the gap will only widen. Its still exciting to see foreigners competing in the GSL as it truly is the hardest and most prestigious tournament and anyone who does reasonably well there deserves respect imo.
G_G
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada178 Posts
April 05 2012 04:05 GMT
#7
I can't rationalize why, but I remain attracted to BW because I can just watch the few matches that are going on and feel like I'm keeping up 100%. I play SC2 but don't watch it, and I watch BW but don't play it. I don't know Korean at all, either, so I usually lower the sound and play music. I don't know why honestly.

Now that I think about it, I play hockey but watch basketball.
Backpack
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1776 Posts
April 05 2012 04:37 GMT
#8
I watch liquid players, finals, and GSL when Tastosis are on. Thats about it now though.
"You people need to just generally care a lot less about everything." -Zatic
TORTOISE
Profile Joined December 2010
United States515 Posts
April 05 2012 05:22 GMT
#9
I agree. The foreigner level of competition is just too low to be interesting. Maybe the game is just getting stagnant, but I only really see exciting play from the Koreans.
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how
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States538 Posts
April 05 2012 09:24 GMT
#10
I would have to disagree with you guys. Whenever I can, I watch a tournament from start to finish. The Korean vs Foreigner thing really is starting to away. The TOP players are Korean right now, it is obvious, but outside of the top 7 or so Koreans, the foreigners are right there with them.

Demuslim over Nestea

Naniwa over Nestea (many times)

Ret over MVP

Huk over lots of top koreans

Sheth over Polt

And those are just what I can think of off the very top of my head. YES, the Koreans on average are better, BUT in a year or two I think we will see at least one foreigner become a Code S champ. (My money in on Thorzain due to how the tournament is set up.)
http://twitter.com/howsc
fatman65
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada16 Posts
April 05 2012 09:50 GMT
#11
its albout the "playoffs" when it means something that is when every thing is on the line, its alot more fun to watch for sure.
Zorkmid
Profile Joined November 2008
4410 Posts
April 05 2012 13:12 GMT
#12
On April 05 2012 12:29 adeezy wrote:
Well first off the way I watch sports is this, I watch the playoffs and the finals, and once in a while my local team vs some of the top brass (like the lakers, heat, thunder), but other than that I never watch sports.

I used to keep up with starcraft 2, like the gsl and mlg, from the beginning of the event, but now I find myself skipping the main bracket and pool stages and starting to watch at the quarter or semi finals.

Also I say that because I've also lost interest in the foreign scene, in particular, my favorite IdrA who has been insignificant since.... I can't even remember the last time he was significant actually. They just don't compare to the top brass in Korea right now and I'm not really interested in matches that are at the highest stakes or at least the highest skill.

Am I the only one?


I've never had a real opportunity in the past to watch an entire event, I'd usually tune in for a match here and a match there when it was the first season of MLG. I try to keep an eye on my favorite players to see if they make it out of MLG bracket stages etc. But I don't actually watch many games anymore, I stick to the liquipedia mostly.
huehuehuehue
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Estonia455 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-05 13:40:47
April 05 2012 13:40 GMT
#13
I pretty much watch only good Terrans playing now, so some foreigners like the Empire terrans and the top Korean ones, but i can't bear watching GSL because i don't have the HD pass and the LQ is so bad.
adeezy
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1428 Posts
April 05 2012 19:51 GMT
#14
On April 05 2012 18:24 how wrote:
I would have to disagree with you guys. Whenever I can, I watch a tournament from start to finish. The Korean vs Foreigner thing really is starting to away. The TOP players are Korean right now, it is obvious, but outside of the top 7 or so Koreans, the foreigners are right there with them.

Demuslim over Nestea

Naniwa over Nestea (many times)

Ret over MVP

Huk over lots of top koreans

Sheth over Polt

And those are just what I can think of off the very top of my head. YES, the Koreans on average are better, BUT in a year or two I think we will see at least one foreigner become a Code S champ. (My money in on Thorzain due to how the tournament is set up.)


nestea and MVP aren't dominating like they used to, it's been a while. right now its DRG and MKP
I asked my friend how the ratio at a party was, he replied. "Let's just say for every guy there was two dudes."
Angel_
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States1617 Posts
April 05 2012 20:05 GMT
#15
On April 05 2012 18:24 how wrote:
I would have to disagree with you guys. Whenever I can, I watch a tournament from start to finish. The Korean vs Foreigner thing really is starting to away. The TOP players are Korean right now, it is obvious, but outside of the top 7 or so Koreans, the foreigners are right there with them.

Demuslim over Nestea

Naniwa over Nestea (many times)

Ret over MVP

Huk over lots of top koreans

Sheth over Polt

And those are just what I can think of off the very top of my head. YES, the Koreans on average are better, BUT in a year or two I think we will see at least one foreigner become a Code S champ. (My money in on Thorzain due to how the tournament is set up.)


and how many of those have been in korea on home soil? =\ yea...
Recognizable
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Netherlands1552 Posts
April 05 2012 20:14 GMT
#16
I stopped watching for the most part. All the games one person gets an advantage somehow and then wins, when you can predict who is winning 10 min before the game ends, it just gets extremely boring. Also, I am never amazed by what the players do, it's not something inhuman and out of reach for me so I am never like WOAH amazing. Only Code S players suprise me, so I sometimes watch GSL.
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