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Caladbolg
Profile Joined March 2011
2855 Posts
April 03 2012 10:40 GMT
#81
The main issue is moot, but I do want to give a few thoughts and *unsolicited* advice.

Just ask simple-worded questions to head these issues off. I don't know where your quote came from, but I do see the idea behind it. If you want to truly learn, then try to make the statement readable to the ordinary person - not necessarily understandable, but readable. I mean, "demystifying" can be simplified into "clarify", "praxis" into "practice" or even "experience" and so on (if I can follow the thought behind the quote). Precondition, if not really meant in its temporal sense, can be simplified into "condition" or "requirement" even. Thus you end up with "Clarifying the present is a requirement of practice (or if you want to keep the philosophical heritage of the term intact, praxis), which is necessarily future-oriented. (cut off the first thought there) This would be possible if the future were partially known." Two ideas then - (1) that some form of present clarity is required for praxis, and (2) that by the nature of praxis (in its future-oriented approach), partial knowledge of the future needs to be attained.

When you simplify things, it's not as complicated or "intellectual"-sounding as your quote made it out to be, and you can have a more fruitful discussion (with less "pomposity" thrown between thinking friends).
"I don't like the word prodigy at all. To me prodigy sounds like a person who was 'gifted' all these things rather than a person who earned all these talents by hard training... I must train harder to reach my goal." - Flash
Spikeke
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada106 Posts
April 03 2012 16:02 GMT
#82
Yup.
I don't think I'm a typical teenager though.

You have no idea how much of a typical teenager you sound like....

Maybe if you and your friend were honest from the start and didn't act dumb in the first place, this problem wouldn't happen. Maybe you should go into the Stoner thread... they always having "Deep philosophical discussions" about the vast and majestic universe, current affairs, and literature.
Mothra
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States1448 Posts
April 03 2012 21:59 GMT
#83
Am I the only one that doesn't find the guy's answer harsh or pretentious (besides the word "nincompoopery" lol)? He's expressing his frustration at a very specific behavior, rather than calling Azera stupid or saying lets not be friends anymore. If someone just sent me that quote and didn't mean it as a joke then I would be kind of annoyed as well. It doesn't serve as much of a springboard into anything besides how language can get in the way of clarity of ideas. But anyway it's pretty hard to make a judgment on this person with so little context given.
Roe
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Canada6002 Posts
April 04 2012 08:13 GMT
#84
I think it was Tolstoy who said he was perfectly content to work the farm, but his novel called to him to be written.
Azera
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
3800 Posts
April 04 2012 09:00 GMT
#85
On April 04 2012 17:13 Roe wrote:
I think it was Tolstoy who said he was perfectly content to work the farm, but his novel called to him to be written.


Sorry what?
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Roe
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Canada6002 Posts
April 04 2012 20:55 GMT
#86
On April 04 2012 18:00 Azera wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2012 17:13 Roe wrote:
I think it was Tolstoy who said he was perfectly content to work the farm, but his novel called to him to be written.


Sorry what?

Go outside, put your mind at ease. People get stuck in the dust of books too often.
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