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My Starcraft Pro-gaming Journey

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EggYsc2
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
620 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-22 14:35:27
March 22 2012 04:07 GMT
#1
8 months of 1v1 Starcraft Officially.
Progaming and you and how hard it really is.

My journey of progaming started about this time last year.
Just like you I had started off in bronze. 1v1.
Though I spent about 2 months prior working on APM and just general build orders in team games, but a team game can never prepare you fully for the 1v1 world.
I had originally played the game because I was bored one night in my vacation in Vienna and I could not play world of warcraft because it was not on my brothers laptop so I tried some starcraft.
Then I found out about teamliquid and noticed there are tournaments, MONEY, and fame you could get out of this.
I have spent a ludicrous amount of time on this game.
When Im not playing starcraft, im watching starcraft, literally.
I havent played an obcene amount of games(easily 3000+ though) because I believe watching and decrypting strategies on how and why they work are more benificial to me than mass herpderping games.
Little did I know what I was getting into...

My Pokemon Trading Card Game Career

Anywho before I start my rants and everything about this game I'm going to give a quick background of my past.
For about 11 years of my life now I have played Pokemon Trading Card game competively. The last 3 years have been my retirement years where I only play at 1-2 major tournaments a year with little to no practise. I play just now because I dont mind stomping some nerd dreams of winning a tournament.
For a long time I was regarded as one of the top players in Canada and decently ranked world wide(Top 40?)
It was nice I won alot of money, scholarships, and full paid trips around the world(meaning mostly USA, since nintendo is cheap and only holds stuff in america) But hawaii, san diego etc is really nice to see.
It was a really amazing game to play if you never got a chance to and I had met some amazing people over the year and I feel it has contributed so much to my starcraft 2 Career.
StarCraft 2 and Pokemon are more similar than you think.
Both have metagames, build orders(decklists), and things you have to memorize otherwise it can cost you games. The only difference between pokemon and starcraft 2 is that it is turn based strategy vs real time.
In Pokemon was a player who would play rouge deck, stratagies that have never been heard of making me a very feared player because I would be the person setting the metagame for the next tournament, it took hundreds(400+) of hours of dedication from me and my teammates to create decks(build orders) to fight against the metagame.
Like in any strategy/war game, surprise is youre #1 tool.

My World of Warcraft era
Like most gamers I tried out and got "hooked" onto WoW.
Being competitive in natural loved being number one so this game was not any different
Eventually I had found myself in a Top25 North American WoW guild for about 3 years(Hellborn/Relentless/Downtime Shattered Hand-US). Doesn't add much to being good at starcraft 2 other than being dedicated and learning to deal with failure multiple multiple times.
I also was a top gladiator for many season of the PvP which actually have helped me in my journey in LoL.

My Poker Career
I started playing Poker when I was 16. My friend in highschool introduced it to me one day in class and I was hooked.
Since I was already an avid card player with Pokemon I dont think this game would be any different. I picked up all the books, watched all the shows, I hustled all the kids during lunch time it was great. By the time I was 18 I had already stacked up $12000 in my bankroll and almost qualified for a EPT(I was 1 spot away from getting in, lost because I made a bad play and I accept that) But when university hit I slowed down my Poker and focused more on school only playing to make enough to hangout and stuff. And after the USA FBI targeted and shutdown Pokersites it has become increasingly harder to play(even though I live in Canada) alot of Canadian Banks will not allow their Credit Cards to be used on Pokersites.(IE TD Bank)

Remember starcraft 2 is my very first RTS game ever. actually I hated Starcraft BW before because I could not appreciate non high action games(like BF COD etc)

Starcraft Career
From Bronze to gold was a fun time.
I personally invented my own 8 roach rush build, slightly stronger than a 7 roach rush.
I was so happy that I actually invented a build that no one had ever thought of, and still hasnt to this date. I figuired that the +16 damage could be game changing which it really is.
(the build order is 14p 14g drone to 16 queen and roach warren when SP finishes. Drone to 18/18 then make 2 overlords and continiously produce roaches till you hit 8) The timing is at 530 which is really nice.
I figuired if I cant handle 1 base what is the chance I could handle 2.
This is where I worked on micro, hotkeys, all that jazz.
I was able to have some rediculous win rate of about 70% at the time with this build which helped me jump from Bronze to gold in about 100 wins. I never was in silver yay!

Gold to Plat. Macro begins.
I knew if I ever wanted to go pro I would have to become a macro kings like my Idols Ret,Sheth,Idra.
No matter how many loses(i dont remember) everygame I would 15h. Here I would master the 2 base sometimes exploring 3. I got to platinum in another 50-60 wins with about a 65% win ratio. My multitasking from the roach rush had transffered over to helping me inject and macro so it wasnt really that difficult.

Plat to diamond.
Here I am decently confident in my macro. I continue to play macro and I will forever from this point.

Dat Masters
From what I remember I get to diamond in 200 wins in about 4 months? Something like that.
But for 2 months I get onto the 2 Rax herp derp bandwagon. While practising my zerg on a side account i practise my marine splits(which have helped me immensley today it helps for every race) and 2 rax really really well. And the map pool at the time favouring 2 rax it was time to get masters.
I had bummed my mmr to lowish diamond at the time with my zerg because I was getting frusturated so I decided to try out my terran.
57 wins in a row later and 1 loss. I was finally masters.(6 months later)
I faced diamond till about 44 wins I believe. Its amazing what 2 rax and bunker rushes can do.Now some of them were "macro games" but they all ended before 14 mins becuase my late game terran is pretty aweful.

At this point I join a new E-Sports Team Organization(Icons Of Vanity) which seemed to be promising at first with sponsors and everything but they eventually turned out to be full of fake promises. But that doesnt matter since they are in the past!

At this point I think im some starcraft god. Ive ever played RTS in my life Im starting to average almost 200 apm(not just button mashing) So i decide to make the trip to the korean server.
Here in Canada I get really good connection to the KR server almost no lag, its pretty awesome. There I play zerg because after long and hard thinking I decide that I love zerg the most. The speed, the larva, the creep everything about it is just awesome. I place into platinum league losing to a few cheeses. After a couple weeks I get into diamond and eventually placed into low masters with my zerg. Not much to say just macro zerg games, practising my what all pro-gamers practise inject creep and timings. I didnt play any games on the NA server at this time.

I get a new account in my 7th month about where I try out my toss. I had been secretly playing on another account(I have many) where I was practising my 3 gate and 1 gate expos and 4 gates. Amazingly with some luck I was able to place into Masters with protoss after about 30 games. Really people, protoss is not that difficult I dont care what anyone says. But my knowledge of protoss is really high since it is my worst matchup for Zerg. I studied toss hardcore I know all the timings, everything about them. I have a notebook dedicated to toss timings and what I should look for etc. So even before playing protoss I knew so much about it. Luckily it was the time of 4 gate when I play and my micro and timings were impeccible so I usually won. But i only played 5 protoss out of 30 games so i was happy.

After leaving Icons of Vanity because of putting up with their BS for a long long time. I decided it was to find a new team.

Around this time there was a LAN in toronto which i decided to take part of.
Players such as coLRyze, coLSUGGY(at the time), SlayerSBaekho(ex-slayers) had decided to show up.
I ended up taking 2nd place and winning myself a cool mousepad but I lost to SlayersBaehko because he was way out of my league at the time.

And I have finally found a new home with Give-It-All E-SPORTS a European based SC2 team with some of the best up and coming players i have seen in a while.(www.give-it-all.de) But I had taken the role of something else, the Head Coach of the team.
After coming back to the NA server I am averging a 72% win ratio in high masters, on the verge of GrandMaster. KR is MUCH harder than you think.

With my stategic background and their skill level I am helping them and me get better at this game. I have so many stratagies that I have yet to be debuted that its insane how much pro gamers are actually missing in this game. I feel alot of them are stagnating the metagame because everyone(almost) plays the "follow the leader game."

Sure you will lose when you try to develop a new strategy this is nothing new to me I did this for 11 years in Pokemon, but once you get good at finding holes in metagames(assuming you know the metagame inside out) new statagies are easy to find.

Why are koreans better than foreigners? Is it because they move faster?
No, its because they take the time to find those little holes and expose them.

I find that alot of the Starcraft community is hung up on something I like to call "cost efficeciency"
While this is importnat this is not true.
Starcraft is a game of investment and your biggest commodity you use is time.
Which makes Starcraft a game of time not minerals and gas.(which are very important dont get me wrong)
When I invest 100 minerals into 4 lings at the beggining I am investing into TIME
not an attacking unit.

How am I investing into time?(Shak's Plat lets assume)
Well assume 2 lings go on towers 1 ling infront of the main 1 ling at the 3rd.
Assume ling infront of base dies.
I know that the time it takes from the moment I see units on the map from the vision of the tower I have ~45 second to gather myself(the amount of time it takes to cross the map in cross position and place a pylon

My Rant about the Spore Crawler

When I make a spore crawler(most underused object in the game btw) Im investing into the time it can buy me which is about 3-5 seconds from a drop.
Alot of people I talk with are like
"well herp derp, you just lose 150 minerals because the drop is going to kill it"
Excuse me?
You know a spore crawler is more than an attacking unit.
Not only will it damage the drop ship, but it buys you time get your units over there to stop the drop.
If you do not put any detterant what is stopping your opponent from just running in?
It makes no sense for any zerg player not to put spores(and spines) and PDL's(possible drop loations)
Otherwise if im the terran players(or the good warp prism protoss player" I feel like you are giving me a redcarpet into your base. If you have nothing to stop me im just going to walts in.
spore crawlers and spine not only have a time cost efficency on them,
they also act as a detterant.
Is it so out of the world that if your opponent see's a spore he might not drop?
This is a mind game spore, a time saving spore, a possible kill the drop ship spore.
How many times have you seen that drop ship just run away with 20 hp. If you had a spore that would be dead deeming the drop UN-costeffective.

Anyway. In 8-9 months I have achieved so much and I feel if I continue at this rate I'll be a true progamer in no time, right now I consider myself a semi-pro.
But its not that easy people.
I have yet to miss a day of starcraft. I spend endless hours everyday watching streaming playing games, training my micro(I create my own personal micro maps to train my skill that are not as strong as others)
and ontop of that I have girlfriend, and school to take care of.
If youre low ranked player(anyone in diamond and under)
and are thinking about going pro.
You really have to be dedicated to this game.
When you watch a steam dont watch it for the relaxation
Have a notebook write down timings, etc.
Its hard, but possible.
Remember dont go onto 2 base before you have mastered 1 base.
Why would you?

GL HF
and continue gaming people.
When I reach a top cut at an MLG ill make my next post


Some notes:
-I got masters in 6 months.
-8 months to get high masters(1000+ points, 72% win)
-A proffesional(according to IdrA/other pros) is someone that can make a living of gaming.
-A semi-pro would indicate that they still need a job on the side to make a living.
-I do this part time, I know my post makes it seem like i play/study starcraft 15 hours a day but in reality its like 4-6(depending on the day and my schedule)
-like I said I have school, girlfriend and I have to play Poker to make my income.


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aMEkaRmy
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada633 Posts
March 22 2012 04:27 GMT
#2
What's your opinion of Semi pro and Pro? To me semi pro is making money of the game, a well known player but not enough to make a living off.

Pro is making a living off the game. I'm moving to Warsaw, Poland to live in a pro house and put 11 hours a day into gaming, I play on Team Legion and have participated at MLG and will be going to dreamhack open and still don't consider myself close to a semi pro. I'm high masters on NA and EU.
Team Captain for FXO.NA Follow me on twitter @FXOkarmy
munchmunch
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada789 Posts
March 22 2012 04:45 GMT
#3
Very interesting story, thanks for sharing.

On March 22 2012 13:27 HKarmY wrote:
What's your opinion of Semi pro and Pro? To me semi pro is making money of the game, a well known player but not enough to make a living off.

Pro is making a living off the game. I'm moving to Warsaw, Poland to live in a pro house and put 11 hours a day into gaming, I play on Team Legion and have participated at MLG and will be going to dreamhack open and still don't consider myself close to a semi pro. I'm high masters on NA and EU.
While "professional" usually refers to someone who is paid for something, it can also just mean someone who is very good at something. Seriously, check a dictionary.
Thaniri
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
1264 Posts
March 22 2012 04:46 GMT
#4
I'm working hard on getting Masters on KR. (High diamond at the time of this post.)

I go to school, and I don't spend my entire time on Starcraft, however a large majority of my free time is on this awesome game. I hope to play at a high level, but I doubt I could ever do it for a living.

Good luck to you. I actually find it incredibly hard to watch a stream for more than just enjoyment. I usually watch streams when I am very tired and I simply can't concentrate on playing myself. I get tired easily because of a medical condition, but I'll persevere just like you, but toward a different goal.
sn0wyy
Profile Joined January 2012
Canada33 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-22 04:49:27
March 22 2012 04:47 GMT
#5
I agree with Karmy. You aren't a semi-pro, but that doesn't mean you can't be one someday. I consider a semi-pro somebody who is contracted on a team and earns a small salary or can be competitive at events like MLG. That being said there are pro gamers who play at a semi-pro level.

There are hundreds of GM/High masters players on all three major servers who won't be progamers or semi pros.
run.at.me
Profile Joined December 2011
Australia550 Posts
March 22 2012 06:51 GMT
#6
First story blog from bronze to pro, I've ever read where I didn't think they were a moron.

U sound like u know what it takes, and you enjoy it (very important)
Best of luck
Boonbag
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
France3318 Posts
March 22 2012 09:16 GMT
#7
8 month to get into masters is pretty bad
Censured
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Czech Republic1061 Posts
March 22 2012 09:45 GMT
#8
On March 22 2012 18:16 Boonbag wrote:
8 month to get into masters is pretty bad

8 months to get into masters with no RTS background is pretty good if you ask me
anyways, interesting read OP, I wish you luck
Occupation: Legend
sN-Baloo
Profile Joined November 2010
France19 Posts
March 22 2012 10:43 GMT
#9
On March 22 2012 18:16 Boonbag wrote:
8 month to get into masters is pretty bad


^ this. Especially if you really worked that hard on everything. This blog smells like ego boost =). Also if you really wanna reach pro level while school + gf, why wasting time being " THE HEAD COACH OF THE TEAM " ?

LOL @ " Really people, protoss is not that difficult I dont care what anyone says. "
+
LOL @ " that its insane how much pro gamers are actually missing in this game. "
Zenatsu
Profile Joined February 2011
100 Posts
March 22 2012 12:00 GMT
#10
On March 22 2012 19:43 sN-Baloo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2012 18:16 Boonbag wrote:
8 month to get into masters is pretty bad


^ this. Especially if you really worked that hard on everything. This blog smells like ego boost =). Also if you really wanna reach pro level while school + gf, why wasting time being " THE HEAD COACH OF THE TEAM " ?

LOL @ " Really people, protoss is not that difficult I dont care what anyone says. "
+
LOL @ " that its insane how much pro gamers are actually missing in this game. "


You know, not everyone is super epic 1337 sauce who can go from having 0 RTS experience to GM potiental in 8 months. Yea, soemone could have the same dedication but realisticly, hes put in his hours, and has gotten results out of it. That post smells of jealousy.

@OP: I think your next step should be hitting LAN's and tournaments, if you are skilled as you say you are, should start getting some tourny wins in. I Think the diffrence between being a "Pro" and being "Just another SC2 Player" is tournamanet results. You can call yourself a professional SC2 player all you want, but if you do not play tournaments, you bearly have any credability to that claim.

Just my opinion.
sN-Baloo
Profile Joined November 2010
France19 Posts
March 22 2012 12:45 GMT
#11
Meh, no jealousy at all. I'm actually considering like many others that master level is still terribad. Making a blog about " how I have 70% ratio win in high master, with no rts experience " doesn't mean shit =) I bought a smurf 2 months ago and did reach high master in 1 week with 80% ratio. ( Yeah 98% of those players had a lower mmr so what ? ) Im so gosu + without any RTS experience. I may write a blog later so everyone can be aware how naturally gifted I am...
Nothing against you, but I just don't get your point plus if you make a blog only to show how gosu you are, at least post some sc2ranks links so we can see for yourself.
NoobStyles
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Australia257 Posts
March 22 2012 13:33 GMT
#12
On March 22 2012 13:07 IOvEggY wrote:
With my stategic background and their skill level I am helping them and me get better at this game. I have so many stratagies that I have yet to be debuted that its insane how much pro gamers are actually missing in this game. I feel alot of them are stagnating the metagame because everyone(almost) plays the "follow the leader game."



Cant wait to see you at Columbus
EggYsc2
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
620 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-22 14:31:14
March 22 2012 14:11 GMT
#13
Some notes:
-I got masters in 6 months.
-8 months to get high masters(1000+ points, 72% win)
-A proffesional(according to IdrA/other pros) is someone that can make a living of gaming.
-A semi-pro would indicate that they still need a job on the side to make a living.
-I do this part time, I know my post makes it seem like i play/study starcraft 15 hours a day but in reality its like 4-6(depending on the day and my schedule)
-like I said I have school, girlfriend and I have to play Poker to make my income.
-and I have gotten 2nd Place at a Toronto LAN, being my first LAN ever and it sucked to be honest because we didnt play on wide screens it was very different to play.
Im going to clean up the blog a little more since im refreshed this morning and add my story about Poker while im at it!
EggYsc2
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
620 Posts
March 22 2012 14:38 GMT
#14
On March 22 2012 19:43 sN-Baloo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2012 18:16 Boonbag wrote:
8 month to get into masters is pretty bad


^ this. Especially if you really worked that hard on everything. This blog smells like ego boost =). Also if you really wanna reach pro level while school + gf, why wasting time being " THE HEAD COACH OF THE TEAM " ?

LOL @ " Really people, protoss is not that difficult I dont care what anyone says. "
+
LOL @ " that its insane how much pro gamers are actually missing in this game. "


its true.
Like TLO has recently started using Queens and overlords to deny expansions late game.
I have been doing this for 3 months
but since I do not have the popularity yet my strategies cannot be showcased yet nom saying?
ranjutan
Profile Joined November 2010
United States636 Posts
March 22 2012 14:58 GMT
#15
On March 22 2012 23:38 IOvEggY wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2012 19:43 sN-Baloo wrote:
On March 22 2012 18:16 Boonbag wrote:
8 month to get into masters is pretty bad


^ this. Especially if you really worked that hard on everything. This blog smells like ego boost =). Also if you really wanna reach pro level while school + gf, why wasting time being " THE HEAD COACH OF THE TEAM " ?

LOL @ " Really people, protoss is not that difficult I dont care what anyone says. "
+
LOL @ " that its insane how much pro gamers are actually missing in this game. "


its true.
Like TLO has recently started using Queens and overlords to deny expansions late game.
I have been doing this for 3 months
but since I do not have the popularity yet my strategies cannot be showcased yet nom saying?


TLO's been using queens + overlord creep drop to spread creep (even not in lategame) for a long time. I remember seeing him do it against BratOK in a game on Delta Quadrant (that must have been a really long time ago haha ).
http://i53.tinypic.com/1r3j0p.gif
MegaFonzie
Profile Joined April 2011
Australia1084 Posts
March 25 2012 05:14 GMT
#16
Since you've stated that you only play 4-6 hours of starcraft a day, I don't see how you are qualified to talk about 'how hard progaming really is'. If you aren't actually playing progamer hours, why are you acting like you know how much you have to sacrifice and how difficult it is?

I read the IOV thread that you created which turned into the teams management having to request TL let them hijack your OP so they could save some face because you seemingly tarnished their reputation by the way you carried yourself in that thread so I'm sorry that I'm a bit doubtful of you, but every post of yours that I have seen just make you seem really arrogant.
@x5_MegaFonzie
NachiMe
Profile Joined November 2011
250 Posts
March 25 2012 05:42 GMT
#17
hey I'm still diamond after playing since beta :D

Was finally about to hit masters then I lost 8 games in a row very recently lolol. Almost ripped my mousepad in half
Wegandi
Profile Joined March 2011
United States2455 Posts
March 25 2012 06:43 GMT
#18
People have been using overlords to deny expos for a long time, not to mention that you only buy yourself ~15 seconds more than with a burrowed zergling (vice Queen + creep)...

You do make a good observation between cost / time (in economics this is called Opportunity Cost). One spore crawler isn't enough to deter or damage a drop especially if you are playing a decent player who doesn't run their medivac into your spores. The same can be said of turrets...building one turret when you know your opponent is going muta is not enough. You might as well either invest more into the turrets, or forego them and just position marines correctly. Something that a lot of players overlook is good scouting coupled with impeccable mini-map awareness. Having those skillsets offsets so many others.

Perhaps you don't need those spores if you scout well and watch the mini for blips. Send your Queens + speedlings over like Stephano does (or infestor if you have). Thereby freeing up a drone + minerals to be put to better use. Honestly it seems like you still have a ways to go yet..(and I don't even play Zerg, or that much lately...)
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