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HI TL's friends
I just read an article from IGN regarding future of console gaming here
http://games.ign.com/articles/122/1220883p1.html
Note that this is just one of many article that people talking about the downfall of the console gaming.
Many editor and many insider of gaming industry have been raising concern about the future of console. Some said mobile gaming and web browser gaming will be the future.
Now I don't know if that is true or not.. but as a hardcore gamer, I really wish it is not the case. I still miss the time of PS1 and PS2 where good game came out faster than you could have played them. In those time there are good RPG came out everyweek and you have to decide which game you are going to buy. Right now, with ps3, it is opposite of that. there are very few worthy game coming out.
What do you guys think? will console going down like arcade game? What if we have to play Final Fantasy XV in IPAD3. What if you can only play Tekken or Street Fighter from a PC. I hope we don't.
 
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Have you watched the presentation by Ben Cousins which this article references? It's not so much consoles are dyign as they are being replaced by mobile gaming,just like the console killed the arcade, just like internet is killing the newspaper, just like television killed film. Sure, it will continue to exist, but it'll be a niche thing.
http://www.slideshare.net/fullscreen/bcousins/when-the-consoles-die-what-comes-next/1
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A ridiculous assertion. Console games are still selling millions. Casual/social/FTP games may be bigger than traditional gaming, but as far as I'm concerned they belong in a completely different category and do not even cater to the same demographic.
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Nah consoles aren't dying. Unless I am mistaken the modern warfail series sells most of its copies on consoles (pc still do good but not as good as consoles iirc). I dont' think consoles will die anytime soon tbh but that's just me, I personally havent played a console in so long, it feels so wrong compared to pc gaming xD.
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Consoles are at their weakest right now, as it always is before a release cycle, they look terrible in comparison to PC. Things will bounce back a ton once the new consoles come out.
I was the purest of the PC gaming master race, but I got a PS3 one day and I enjoy playing it more. All the titles feel a lot more natural in terms of control (probably a console port issue on PC), and you just plug in the disc and it works without the bullshit.
But I only use my PS3 for JPRGs and fighting games.
I think consoles will always have a place. Mobile and social gaming is huge, but that's not converting the market, that's expanding the market. Teenagers who play PS3 aren't stopping to go play Farmville, other people who don't play games are starting to play Farmville. And the mobile gaming boom is awesome, because even though 99% of titles are shit, there's some absolutely fantastic mobile gaming experiences out there.
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Mobile gaming has no effect on consoles. Dumbass newspapers etc like to make the claim that gamers are interested in the latest mobile games etc, but there's no truth in that. I mean, are you seriously going to stop playing game X on your 360 or PS3 because a new expansion pack to Angry birds came out? Hardly. Mobile games are extremely simple and boring and are only used to waste time on the buss etc.
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I'm not seeing consoles die anytime soon in the next 5 years, especially since developers are always trying to wow us with the new hardware we can attach to our tvs. sure, internet games like those on facebook or on your phone are becoming popular but they are becoming popular with people who normally don't play games. So no, consoles aren't dying they are being overwhelmed by the larger group of casual mobile/facebook gamers.
btw, how would playing "street fighter" on pc be a bad thing? you know you can connect controllers to your pc and pcs have more customization.
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This whole "Are consoles dying?" crap.... is just crap. Its actually completely retarded. Nobody who is an Xbox player will exchange their xbox for playing shit games on the ipad.... These "mobile games" are bringing in new gamers who wouldn't be playing otherwise. Its the same crap as farmville and things like that. You don't hear anybody saying "well now that I can play farmville for free im not going to play starcraft anymore", its the non-traditional gamers who these things appeal to.
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They need to predict the death of something to make news....
Remember how the PC was supposed to be dead 5 years ago? The only things that are looking a little weak are hand held consoles, but then I dont really use hand held consoles, so it's just my perception.
But then personally I havent really touched my ps3 for a long time now, ever since I started working I got a decent pc. From then on I've been using the computer. And I've also been playing some of the more popular indie games on the pc and really liking them to the usual polished stuff..(I dont really use psn).
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There's a huge market for console games to be played on PC's. I was thinking the other day if Final Fantasy XIII-2 was for PC I would definitely buy it. However they just don't publish for PC games anymore.
It's much cheaper for me to purchase a game controller and plug it into my PC and play than it is to go and spend 300-600 for a console for one game I like. There's just a few console games people want to play and buying an entire console to have access to it is such a pain. You honestly have to measure the entertainment value vs. cost. I don't even want to get into how you certain games are only published for certain consoles so you're pidgeon-holed.
Just sucks really, I grew up playing consoles and taking them over to my friends to play but it's just not worth it to me anymore.
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I havent played my console over 2years now,For me personally,i prefer playing on my PC even tho my graphics card sucks compared to the ps3.
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Maybe the public is coming aware that gaming consoles are just specialized PC's that after 2 years become a pain for the whole gaming industry? Or well maybe not public but all the developers.
Although there is only that much fov you can cut before everyone realizes something is wrong.( which IMO was about 5 years ago)
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I guarantee that when illegal downloading is stopped....consoles will come back in fashion 
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Exactly as said above: Mobile gaming is only really booming in the demographic that wouldn't usually play games. I personally see mobile gaming (iPhone, android etc) as more of a 'Gateway' to more serious gaming (such as Xbox, PS3, PC) - Turning non-gamers into more serious gamers.
The whole gamer-nerd view has shifted in the last few years as pretty much everyone is getting into consoles, including a high percentage of girls, which I'd put down to the whole 'Gateway' concept of mobile gaming or playing more casual games in the past (e.g, most of my past girlfriends got into the original Pokemon games at a younger age and migrated to more serious consoles like Xbox 360 later on).
I personally can't see consoles dieing in the near future - I'd write more but it's monday morning and i'm tired.
Hope you all have a great day!
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I hope not, cus I was planning to buy the PS3 killzone pack for 290 NZD
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I give consoles another 5-10 years before they become obsolete, just like how the arcades ended when the first consoles came around, so too will the consoles end with better tablets and smart phones being released.
Arcades tried to stay afloat with gimmick controls (You know the ones, like those race car games you see in movie theaters or the Jurassic park shooter, etc..) but it wasn't enough to stay competitive with the convenience of having a more simpler, cheaper game machine in your home. And now we can see consoles doing the EXACT same thing (Wii motion, xbox kinect, DDR, etc..)
Believe it or not, smart phones and tabloids are starting to rival the processing power of modern consoles (The same consoles that companies actually lose money when trying to sell) and with better onboard graphics, a larger demographic for potential customers and the cost of producing games drastically reduced, it wont be long before game developers shift their attention away from consoles.
Hell, even now theres technology coming out that would allow MMO's like WoW and EvE to be played on your iphone and god only knows what will become of these games when a true cloud service takes over for streaming any kind of games directly to your phone (think of netflix but for games instead of movies.... instant access to any game).
There is just to much going for these mini computers for developers NOT to switch
More potential customers
Cheaper development cost
vastly improving technology
better monetization that makes publishers completely bypass the retailer and sells directly to the consumer
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Just like someone above posted, I remember distinctly when PC gaming was 'dying' a few years back. Sensationalism in the media seems to be at an all time high these days.
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It's writer's jobs to produce opinion pieces like this, but you surely can't take them all seriously. It seems to me that sometimes they just want to get people to post on forums like this in order to direct traffic to their website.
"This year, we have seen the launch of the new iPad, a device which, despite its current whizzery, offers future powers we can only imagine." - made me laugh.
The nuts and bolts of the article comes down to 1) The gaming industry is not immune to the current global financial problems.2) mobile devices are a growing sector. Therefore it says, consoles must be on the way out. The thing that is really driving the growth of mobile "apps" is that they are easy to develop for small studios or even individuals, and have thus far offered a relatively low risk/reward ratio. Consoles are a very inaccessible market for small time developers because the games are so costly to develop the risk/reward ratio is very high for all but the strongest games franchises.
The issue that the IGN article doesn't address is what will happen with the mobile app industry when the big-boys move in to steal all the business. Inevitably the swelling market on mobile devices will attract big companies that will be able to dominate the market which is now relatively disperse. This will probably lead to stagnation.
It has always been a huge risk to release a new console. Almost every time a new console is released it is make or break for that company. However, since the market is dominated by only 3 companies, and they have very particular user bases, releasing a new console now is less risky than it has ever been.
The real risk is coming from within the companies. The temptation for Sony and Microsoft to try and own 100% of the distribution of games on it's platform by limiting them to download only seems to be such a big prize, but it is a very big gamble, because the user base is very used to trading used games, which allows the price of new games to remain high. If everybody had to purchase brand new games all the time, there seems little doubt that far fewer games would be played, resulting in a weaker online community. The last thing that Microsoft and Sony can afford to risk is their users switching platforms due to frustrations with online gaming.
So this is how I see it. Mobile devices will remain popular, but the small time developers cannot last. Consoles are not going to die, unless by the hand of their own creators.
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I don't necessarily think that the rise of web browser/mobile games will hurt console sales, I can see consoles being more widely used for web browsing in the future.
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I think the market for people who just want a simple and complete gaming system will live on for much longer. You could equip computers with gaming controllers and hook it up to the big screen, but it's just a whole lot of tech work for some people. It's like doing a lot of work to get a suboptimal console clone in your living room. Consoles are the real plug and play, and I don't see such a market going away anytime soon.
I never liked them that much though. FPS feels lame without a mouse, and RTS is only viable on computers imo.
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While I agree that console games have been losing gaming market share steadily in the last couple years, I don't agree that it's 1) dead now or 2) will be dead in the future. As mentioned in this thread already, there will always be a niche for console gaming.
I'm going to compare this with the concept of PC Cafes. With the advancements in internet / online match making, why do people still visit the PC Cafe? For me, and probably for many others, it's to play with friends sitting beside you. It's to yell at each other, give each other high-fives, rage together and at each other, and to have a good time together. Of course, you could argue that LAN parties achieve the same, but even at this age not everyone has a gaming laptop that they can lug along. Now to console gaming - many (and probably the majority of) console games feature local multiplayer (2-4 players, usually). Until the society no longer finds value in enjoying a fierce get-together gaming session with friends, console gaming will not die.
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I just want good controls, crappy web browser and mobile games have shitty ass control. Mouse and Keyboard or joystick is the way good games are played. (specially ofc, mouse and keyboard)
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As long as the general public is too stupid to be 100% computer savvy, consoles will feed and breed upon their ignorance.
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Consoles aren't dieing, but if you're playing FPS semi competitively as well as RTS (you're here on TL...I assume you play SC), you'll find that the most dedicated communities to playing a game competitively will be on the PC. Consoles are a way of making a gaming community with your group of real life friends, more often than not. If you walk into a highschool, pockets of friends will buy the same console and same games to play together and talk about. (Same goes for college or younger gaming adept workplace)
The reason why PC seems so much stronger is because of the recent perforance increase with titles like BF3 on the PC compared to a console as well as modtool releases for epics like Skyrim which, in essence, are good. At the same time it isn't "sustainable" since new consoles will be releasing and I am sure beth and other modtool benefitting companies will be finding ways to integrate them to console releases. The true advantage to PC gaming is things like steam who promote non-blockbuster devs to make awesome games (and sell them for cheap!) as well as discounting the top games like Civilization 5, Call of Duty titles, and other desireables. With this, we find incentive to play console ports on our PCs and get in-tune with different communities. Remember all the times you login to a game hoping your favorite friends are on? Well...PC communities are almost always active, whether in game or not. You can have players on vent/skype/teamspeak avtively talking but doing work, surfing the web, etc which is a lot more often than console players. You can find times to game together much easier for one thing.
Consoles will always have a place, because of aforementioned PC illiterates, but also because they allow for benchmarking hardware for the majority of developers to make to and explore what we want from games. Recently, it has been found we want to play games together easily, both online and split screening. Rockband, call of duty, Halo, almost all of the wii popular titles are good examples. In addition, it is always comfortable to get lost in an epic tale for hours and hours a dozen feet away from your TV with a controller in your hand. RPGs and epic tales like Zelda releases and Lost Oddysy are games I prefer to sit back and play with my controller, while my shooters I prefer to be leaning into my PC screen. Yes, you can play any PC title like a console with a little effort, but the setup of the room has to differ to gain the full experience.
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I see it lasting MAYBE 15 years. The thing is that our consoles now, though still powerful, aren't nearly the same difference away from phones and personal computers that they were about 10 years ago. the Magnum opus of gaming i'd say occured with the Dreamcast, N64, etc. era where there was no way in hell you were going to get to play 64 bit graphics anywhere else. Its started to slowly die after the Gamecube (which was fucking fantastic btw) era where the Xbox really came of age and the Ps2 did also. However, as that era of gamers, who are slightly older than me (i'm 17 so i grew up on N64 and gameboys and had no clue about the original starcraft till SC2 came out) who grew up on the very original consoles probably understand better than most that the difference between then and now is huge. Basically the PS3 graphics and XBox graphics from a powerful computer, though the cost is different still, in the future it will continue to come down and i'd not give it 2 decades before they die.
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I've been under the impression that the console game market is growing. Look at the success of the wii, and how big of new demographic it was able to attract for example. Or look at the success of all the xbox/playstation franchises like CoD that are able to essentially reskin an old game and still make bank from it.
Just watching TV you get a sense of how big the console game industry has become. In my mind, it seems like the amount of game advertisements I have seen on TV recently has been growing. And the production quality in the commercials is always pretty high, they're even able to bring in big-name celebrities to advertise their product for them. The amount of money game developers able to invest in the market is a good indicator of how far the console industry has come, and how profitable they still see the future to be.
Now, if I was going to be worried, I'd be most scared for the future of PC gaming. It seems like high-powered desktop computers are becoming less and less attractive to customers, especially with the arrival of Tablets.
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Well, I think for a healthy console business there must be a win win win for 3 parties which are
1. console developer
2. game developer
3. consumer
if either one of that die, the whole system will die.
What worry me is that the industry shares a small market with 3 main console's brand (i.e. xbox, PS, Wii)
Game developer, then, will have smaller base customer because they have to develop a game for a specific console.
So I think the best way might be one integrate console OS so that game developer can have one big customer base while consumer could choose to buy a console of a brand they like. Consumer will not have to worry about unable to play exclusive game.
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On March 19 2012 21:38 Zorkmid wrote:
I don't necessarily think that the rise of web browser/mobile games will hurt console sales, I can see consoles being more widely used for web browsing in the future.
This, but not exactly.
In the eventual (probably near) future everything (browsing/video watching/gaming/etc.) will and could be done anywhere at any time. My smart TV already does this somewhat as it has built-in applications for streaming movies / clips and playing games, as well as a 3.5 inch hard drive bay plus numerous USB ports for video playback.
This is all done on a cheap TV CPU; I can't wait to see what happens a decade from now.
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