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This may be a bit unusual but I'm not here to lay out my plan for losing weight. I'm going to talk about how I recently succeeded in losing weight.
When I read Sheth's blog about his plan to lose weight, I thought to myself, "You know, I really should lose some weight too." I bought a fairly accurate scale off of amazon and created an excel spreadsheet that would track my weight daily. The plan was to weigh myself every morning when I got up (figured after you go to the bathroom is a good time!) There were some days I was distracted and forgot to weigh myself, so there are a few gaps, but it's not a big problem. Here is the result:
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Apparently I'm just a couple of pounds from being within my ideal weight range now. I'm going to keep it up for a few more weeks and see how it goes.
So I guess the important part of this blog is: how did I do it? I wish I could say I willed it and it just happened, but I had a little bit of help. After talking to a couple of people I decided to try nutrisystem. I would eat one of their breakfasts when I got up, along with one of their protein shakes. Mid-morning (an hour or two before lunch) I would eat a 'powerfuel' such as a piece of string cheese or a few walnuts. Lunch I would eat one of their lunch entrees, as well as a smart carb (piece of whole grain bread or fruit) and another power fuel. I would have a snack (dessert item) late afternoon, one of their dinner entrees for dinner along with two smart carbs, and another dessert item after dinner. Wherever I wanted I was supposed to insert some non-starchy vegetables as well. Water was the drink of choice, 100% of the time.
It's obviously worked pretty well, although you couldn't tell by watching me from day to day. I often wouldn't clean out the mixer I used to make yesterday's protein shake, and would have to skip/substitute the protein shake (I haven't had it in like 5 days rofl). Sometimes I would just say 'screw it' and cheat a little if I still felt hungry. Whenever I went out to eat it was very difficult to maintain my diet for that meal. I would sometimes not pack lunch and have to go out and get a lunch that was less healthy (and more expensive :/ )
Looking back I kinda wonder how this has worked as well as it has. I guess, when your goal diet is much lower in calories than your previous diet, a little cheating feels much worse than it really is. Of course, it doesn't hurt that I'm not a 58 year old post-menopausal woman...
Anyway, once I hit my ideal weight soon (maybe 5-10 more pounds off) I'm going to go off the diet. The hard part is to keep the weight off, right? Well yea, it will take some adjusting, but I have a secret weapon: I have done very little exercise (other than lots of walking at work) since I started this diet. When I go off this diet I will just get a good amount of exercise to compensate! I guess I'll eventually share how that went...
Good luck to anyone else with similar goals.
Moral of story: eat a little bit of food every couple of hours; spread it out!
 
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Congrats on the progress, although I would amend your last bit of advice with a bit of a nod to generality. As you yourself suggested, you more or less stumbled onto this method of weightloss and luckily it worked; the same cannot be said for every person. I myself spun my weght loss wheels hardcore with nutrisystem, forcing myself to eat crappy food and still staying at over 300 pounds. My personal path to weightloss, as time and progress would show me, depended heavily on exercise, so much so that I've become somewhat addicted to the gym. I'm proud to brag in regards to my now well over 4 years of heavy workouts and smart eating, as I've gone from a 315 lb weakling to a 235 borderline competitive lifter.
The moral of the story is that the essential component of success with weightloss is an understanding of how truly idiosyncratic we all are as human beings, and that spaced out controlled dieting might work just as well for one person as intermittant fasting and heavy lifting does for another. My advice to you? Hit the weights son, once you get some muscle mass keeping the weight off becomes so much easier.
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That graph, it's so beautiful. The definite trend, the minimized error only possible using the the inerrant subject of linear algebra, the labeled axis, even a slope of negative a quarter pound per day!
+ Show Spoiler +I don't care how mush you weigh, but keep making graphs, and you'll keep getting respect.
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Congrats on losing weight but I just can't agree on weight loss things like Nutrisystem. Just the name makes me wanna throw that stuff out the window. I know for some people it can be a godsend since they can't keep up a good everything homemade and healthy diet. But still, even hearing the name nutrisystem, it sounds really unhealthy to me.
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Yea nutrisystem is really a temporary thing in my opinion. It's great for people who don't eat healthy because of the time/effort it takes to prepare food instead of buy it, though!
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I wonder whether just weighing yourself every day isn't the most important part of this because it makes you think about what you are going to eat. So many times when we don't consider what we will eat in advance, the quick solution is bad for us.
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On March 12 2012 00:59 micronesia wrote:
Yea nutrisystem is really a temporary thing in my opinion. It's great for people who don't eat healthy because of the time/effort it takes to prepare food instead of buy it, though!
Did it taste good? It looked really good in the commercials but I'm legitimately wondering if that was just commercials or if its actually good LOL
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You know I rarely ever see successful stories of people losing real definitive weight just from dieting. There's almost always some exercising in their routines. But that's one hell of a solid graph micronesia, great job putting off that weight in a healthy way =).
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On March 12 2012 00:30 micronesia wrote:
When I go off this diet I will just get a good amount of exercise to compensate! I guess I'll eventually share how that went...
Why not start now? Perhaps you trust yourself and your willpower sufficiently enough to believe you will start and keep exercising without hesitation. But why not start now? Unless you have some temporary time constraint that won't be there after the diet, why put it off?
Moral of story: eat a little bit of food every couple of hours; spread it out!
Don't wanna hijack the direction, but this is as big a misconception as there is in the world of weight loss. At the end of the day the most important factor is the amount of calories you have ingested, as opposed to the amount you have burned. The idea of spreading it out works for some people, but it is only one way to losing weight.
Alas, congrats on your success!
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I recently lost about 25 pounds and I was also worried about gaining the weight once I went off the diet. What I found was that I developed eating habits that stuck with me. It is impossible for me to eat the way I used to. I would recommend finding ways to start counting calories of your normal every day foods. I'm a college student, so that means I'm on campus all day. There's a bunch of fast food around me and not many healthy choices.
For the first two weeks, it was pretty difficult to stay on such a low calorie count and at the time, I didnt have a variety of food that fit into my calorie count, but as I went along, things became a lot easier. I was eating out almost every day during the diet and I did have a soda once a day, but I was still losing one pound a week. I convinced myself that so long I was meeting a certain calorie count that I was eating enough food, even if the meal seemed small. I will say though that eating subway and potbelly sandwiches did become a staple for me. My sandwiches ranged from 300-400 calories. I usually would not eat chips/sides with it. If I went to chipotle, I would ask them to give me two taco's instead of three. Eventually what happened was that in order to enjoy the food I had at lunch and dinner more, I started making my breakfast smaller. I went from a 300 calorie breakfast at the beginning to about 100-200 calories. That way I could get just a little extra at lunch and dinner.
I did weigh myself everyday. I think it's really important to do so. It helps you stay motivated and lets you know when you've eaten a little much the day before. This way, I would know that I need to watch out a little or maybe eat a little less this day. I found that I kept a steady weight on most days until that one pound disappeared. Also, when you weigh yourself everyday, you start to understand the effects of the food you eat a little better.
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On March 12 2012 01:16 Snuggles wrote:
You know I rarely ever see successful stories of people losing real definitive weight just from dieting. There's almost always some exercising in their routines. But that's one hell of a solid graph micronesia, great job putting off that weight in a healthy way =).
On the contrary, from my experience, dieting is actually like 90% of the weight loss.
Congrats micronesia! I hate dieting :/ Mad props for having the dedication and the willpower to pull it off!
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On March 12 2012 01:16 unichan wrote:Show nested quote +On March 12 2012 00:59 micronesia wrote:
Yea nutrisystem is really a temporary thing in my opinion. It's great for people who don't eat healthy because of the time/effort it takes to prepare food instead of buy it, though! Did it taste good? It looked really good in the commercials but I'm legitimately wondering if that was just commercials or if its actually good LOL
Some of the items taste better than others. After the first month you can customize your order to exclude the foods that taste the worst to you, if you want. It doesn't taste great, but what do you expect from food that mostly can be prepared in a couple of minutes? XD
On March 12 2012 01:26 Tippany wrote:Show nested quote +On March 12 2012 00:30 micronesia wrote:
When I go off this diet I will just get a good amount of exercise to compensate! I guess I'll eventually share how that went... Why not start now? Perhaps you trust yourself and your willpower sufficiently enough to believe you will start and keep exercising without hesitation. But why not start now? Unless you have some temporary time constraint that won't be there after the diet, why put it off? Once I go off nutrisystem it's difficult to go back on, so I'll hit my goal weight and then go off at that point.
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On March 12 2012 01:38 micronesia wrote:
Once I go off nutrisystem it's difficult to go back on, so I'll hit my goal weight and then go off at that point.
I mean exercising. Why wait till you go off the diet to start exercising? Start now!
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If you know you're inclined to eat out once and a while, it's worth it take a few moments and look up the nutritional information on the places you go. There's usually a few "diamonds in the rough" so to say of low calorie items that don't taste horrific on every menu. Even Taco Bell has stuff on their menu that's under 300 calories!
Congrats on the weight loss!
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On March 12 2012 01:49 Tippany wrote:Show nested quote +On March 12 2012 01:38 micronesia wrote:
Once I go off nutrisystem it's difficult to go back on, so I'll hit my goal weight and then go off at that point. I mean exercising. Why wait till you go off the diet to start exercising? Start now!
I frequently plan to start exercising and things always get in the way. By setting a specific and logical goal (once I go off nutrisystem) it gives me time to plan (so I come up with a good solution for my lack of exercise currently) and an increased sense of urgency once the time comes.
Generally though I do find exercise (cardiovascular) very difficult to work into my life as any type of a regular schedule. Half the time when I get home from work I'm so tired I pass out for a few hours. Then when I get up by the time I could exercise it's kinda too late. My schedule will be changing in a few months though, so I should have a new opportunity to adapt.
My last big push for exercise was to get an upright stationary bike, which I've used on and off since then. The only way it seems to work is if I position it in front of the tv and watch something while I bike. It needs to be something that has many episodes and doesn't require much deep thought though or it doesn't work... still a work in progress deciding what I'm going to do.
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So what will be your diet when you get off nutrisystem?
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On March 12 2012 02:43 solidbebe wrote:
So what will be your diet when you get off nutrisystem?
Good question LOL
I don't know.
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On March 12 2012 03:00 micronesia wrote:Show nested quote +On March 12 2012 02:43 solidbebe wrote:
So what will be your diet when you get off nutrisystem? Good question LOL I don't know.
Hahaha, I had an idea you didn't know since you didn't mention it anywhere X{.
Can always ask Eshlow I guess, he knows his stuff.
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The biggest problem with coming up with a post-NS diet or a post-NS exercise plan is that I have to be able to adapt to it. If it takes a lot of time I probably won't be able to right now.
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Your main goal shouldnt be losing weight but losing fat. If you cut protein/slow carb and healthy fat (vegetal) intake the very first thing you'll lose is your muscular mass and you'll end up regain all your kilos quickly. You need to learn the basics of nutrition (if you havent already) first, and it's quite simple.
Once you've done that you have to work out! Cardio is good but if you do some weight lifting to build up a decent muscle mass, that will raise your metabolism and be a tremendous help to lose your fat.
I know you said you're really tired after your work but i'm sure you can find 30min per day to work out and if you walk a lot every day you dont need cardio.
Oh and give up nutrisystem, it's useless, just buy a nutrition book, you'll save your money and learn how to eat/cook properly at the same time.
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I'm a total health noob, but I THINK just dieting is a bad way to lose weight.
The reason is because I think your body burns off half fat and half muscle ( or some proportion ).
Muscle is the reason you keep fat off, simply losing fat will just cause you to get your fat back when you go back to eating normally.
Plus, you'll look scrawny! Anywho, I could be wrong! So much misinformation out there. Correct me if I'm wrong, please!
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Honestly I say you just stick to the foods you're so accustomed to now. I remember when I was reworking my diet, eventually I developed a distaste for the usual old unhealthy food I had eaten as a child and favored healthy cleaner foods. Like I thought in the beginning it would be go on a diet, eat foods you don't like, lose weight, go back to eating food you like. But it's more like go on a diet and eat those types of food without a second thought for the rest of your adult livelihood.
Of course you can stick in a treat or two once or every other week, because really it's quite simply about managing your calories and maximizing how nutritious those fewer calories can be. I honestly quit buying into that "eat small portions throughout your day" sort of thing, because it didn't make much of an impact on me. I only saw results when I changed what I ate, how much I ate, rather than when I ate. Of course eating in the middle of the night is a no no unless you're gonna be up running at 2 in the morning lol.
@abductedonut
I don't think it's so bad when you get to the point of being just really fat lol. I don't know how tall micro is, but unless he's like in the mid-high 6" (quick unsourced estimate) range he probably isn't too scrawny at all if not still a little meaty where he could be sculpted into a god.
But I do have to say that exercising while dieting is so much more efficient in the long run since you can start off from your new base of weight with some tools to work with.
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good progress! any specific reason why you didn't exercise while doing the diet?
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On March 12 2012 03:08 gds wrote:
Your main goal shouldnt be losing weight but losing fat. If you cut protein/slow carb and healthy fat (vegetal) intake the very first thing you'll lose is your muscular mass and you'll end up regain all your kilos quickly. You need to learn the basics of nutrition (if you havent already) first, and it's quite simple.
Once you've done that you have to work out! Cardio is good but if you do some weight lifting to build up a decent muscle mass, that will raise your metabolism and be a tremendous help to lose your fat.
I know you said you're really tired after your work but i'm sure you can find 30min per day to work out and if you walk a lot every day you dont need cardio.
Oh and give up nutrisystem, it's useless, just buy a nutrition book, you'll save your money and learn how to eat/cook properly at the same time.
It's easy to say "find 30 minutes to work out." It's a lot harder to find 30 minutes, and a way to work out, and then do it.
As I said, my schedule will be changing significantly in a few months so trying to put together a plan for the immediate future isn't that worthwhile. Not to say that exercising or proper dieting is bad.
Telling me to give up the only thing that has gotten me to lose weight in over a decade is perhaps a bit arrogant of you.
On March 12 2012 03:08 Abductedonut wrote:
Muscle is the reason you keep fat off, simply losing fat will just cause you to get your fat back when you go back to eating normally. I don't plan to go back to eating the way I was before I did this diet. Part of this diet was to get used to eating less calories (although I can afford to increase them somewhat if my exercise greatly increases).
On March 12 2012 03:10 Snuggles wrote:
Honestly I say you just stick to the foods you're so accustomed to now. I remember when I was reworking my diet, eventually I developed a distaste for the usual old unhealthy food I had eaten as a child and favored healthy cleaner foods. Like I thought in the beginning it would be go on a diet, eat foods you don't like, lose weight, go back to eating food you like. But it's more like go on a diet and eat those types of food without a second thought for the rest of your adult livelihood.g Yeah I feel like I'm getting more comfortable at avoiding certain bad eating habits.
Of course you can stick in a treat or two once or every other week, because really it's quite simply about managing your calories and maximizing how nutritious those fewer calories can be. I honestly quit buying into that "eat small portions throughout your day" sort of thing, because it didn't make much of an impact on me. I only saw results when I changed what I ate, how much I ate, rather than when I ate. Of course eating in the middle of the night is a no no unless you're gonna be up running at 2 in the morning lol. I can really only go by what has worked for me.
@abductedonut
I don't think it's so bad when you get to the point of being just really fat lol. I don't know how tall micro is, but unless he's like in the mid-high 6" (quick unsourced estimate) range he probably isn't too scrawny at all if not still a little meaty where he could be sculpted into a god.
But I do have to say that exercising while dieting is so much more efficient in the long run since you can start off from your new base of weight with some tools to work with.
Given that I'm in between 5'10" and 5'11" (not a thin build though) I think it is safe to say the first 15 or so pounds of weight loss is perfectly appropriate. Obviously, losing muscle and not fat is bad.
On March 12 2012 03:53 leo23 wrote:
good progress! any specific reason why you didn't exercise while doing the diet?
The same reasons why I didn't exercise before the diet. Sufficient exercise isn't something that materializes the moment you decide you need it.
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you should get some weights and do 10 reps every time you make a post on TL
then youve already found some spare time, and you are now filling it with exercise
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On March 12 2012 04:35 turdburgler wrote:
you should get some weights and do 10 reps every time you make a post on TL
then youve already found some spare time, and you are now filling it with exercise
Can you suggest the types of weights and types of exercises? If it's quick and easy to implement maybe I would do it.
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What I really suggest you do is put alot of effort into it and make your own schedule. Complete with exercise and when and how you do it. And a well balanced diet. Since you're working on it now anyways, why not put some real effort in it and get it good right? Doing it yourself can prove to be pretty hard though so getting good advice is critical. You can go to a professional dietist or personal trainer. You don't need to it that however, you can just go to some specific forums and get your advice from there, that does require alot more effort on your part ofcourse. If you don't know where to start just ask Eshlow for advice I'm sure he knows. ( I can't really advise you on it myself sorry)
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On March 12 2012 03:10 Snuggles wrote:
Honestly I say you just stick to the foods you're so accustomed to now. I remember when I was reworking my diet, eventually I developed a distaste for the usual old unhealthy food I had eaten as a child and favored healthy cleaner foods. Like I thought in the beginning it would be go on a diet, eat foods you don't like, lose weight, go back to eating food you like. But it's more like go on a diet and eat those types of food without a second thought for the rest of your adult livelihood.
Of course you can stick in a treat or two once or every other week, because really it's quite simply about managing your calories and maximizing how nutritious those fewer calories can be. I honestly quit buying into that "eat small portions throughout your day" sort of thing, because it didn't make much of an impact on me. I only saw results when I changed what I ate, how much I ate, rather than when I ate. Of course eating in the middle of the night is a no no unless you're gonna be up running at 2 in the morning lol.
@abductedonut
I don't think it's so bad when you get to the point of being just really fat lol. I don't know how tall micro is, but unless he's like in the mid-high 6" (quick unsourced estimate) range he probably isn't too scrawny at all if not still a little meaty where he could be sculpted into a god.
But I do have to say that exercising while dieting is so much more efficient in the long run since you can start off from your new base of weight with some tools to work with.
Snuggles has it all figured out.
The major mistake people make when they go on a diet is that someday they will go off it and you will gain the weight back , no matter which diet you pick.
You should pick a diet that you can live on till the last day of your life. It should be healthy with fruits and vegetables and plenty of meat and you eat until you are full.
Just think about what the cave man guys have been eating. Meat , vegetables and a bit of fruit and they never experienced problems with wight.
The reason people get fat in our time is because most foods in stores have a major amount of sugar added or High-fructose corn syrup.
And you might say , hey fruit has fiber as well. The amount of sugar is fruit is very small and even than just in case you might eat to much of it nature added fiber in fruit so it makes you full before you take in to much sugar.
Just think about apples , have you ever eaten 5 apples in a row? While you can munch away plenty of chocolate bars before it has no fiber in it.
So yeah i hope this information helps you in some way , it sure did help me.
Oh , and another thing , losing weight is not a quick thing. The healthy way it takes plenty of time to lose it but you will be rid of it forever if you stay on that diet for life which should not be hard because who doesn't like eating meat?
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On March 12 2012 05:33 solidbebe wrote:
What I really suggest you do is put alot of effort into it and make your own schedule. Complete with exercise and when and how you do it. And a well balanced diet. Since you're working on it now anyways, why not put some real effort in it and get it good right? Doing it yourself can prove to be pretty hard though so getting good advice is critical. You can go to a professional dietist or personal trainer. You don't need to it that however, you can just go to some specific forums and get your advice from there, that does require alot more effort on your part ofcourse. If you don't know where to start just ask Eshlow for advice I'm sure he knows. ( I can't really advise you on it myself sorry)
I've found that what works for me best, as you suggested, is to have a schedule. Every night I brush my teeth before going to bed. Every morning, I weigh myself with the exact same procedure, etc.
The hard part is coming up with a schedule that is compatible with other areas of your life. I haven't had success with that for exercise and diet (aside from nutrisystem which isn't long-term).
On March 12 2012 06:00 Knap4life wrote:Show nested quote +On March 12 2012 03:10 Snuggles wrote:
Honestly I say you just stick to the foods you're so accustomed to now. I remember when I was reworking my diet, eventually I developed a distaste for the usual old unhealthy food I had eaten as a child and favored healthy cleaner foods. Like I thought in the beginning it would be go on a diet, eat foods you don't like, lose weight, go back to eating food you like. But it's more like go on a diet and eat those types of food without a second thought for the rest of your adult livelihood.
Of course you can stick in a treat or two once or every other week, because really it's quite simply about managing your calories and maximizing how nutritious those fewer calories can be. I honestly quit buying into that "eat small portions throughout your day" sort of thing, because it didn't make much of an impact on me. I only saw results when I changed what I ate, how much I ate, rather than when I ate. Of course eating in the middle of the night is a no no unless you're gonna be up running at 2 in the morning lol.
@abductedonut
I don't think it's so bad when you get to the point of being just really fat lol. I don't know how tall micro is, but unless he's like in the mid-high 6" (quick unsourced estimate) range he probably isn't too scrawny at all if not still a little meaty where he could be sculpted into a god.
But I do have to say that exercising while dieting is so much more efficient in the long run since you can start off from your new base of weight with some tools to work with. Snuggles has it all figured out. The major mistake people make when they go on a diet is that someday they will go off it and you will gain the weight back , no matter which diet you pick. You should pick a diet that you can live on till the last day of your life. It should be healthy with fruits and vegetables and plenty of meat and you eat until you are full. Just think about what the cave man guys have been eating. Meat , vegetables and a bit of fruit and they never experienced problems with wight. The reason people get fat in our time is because most foods in stores have a major amount of sugar added or High-fructose corn syrup. And you might say , hey fruit has fiber as well. The amount of sugar is fruit is very small and even than just in case you might eat to much of it nature added fiber in fruit so it makes you full before you take in to much sugar. Just think about apples , have you ever eaten 5 apples in a row? While you can munch away plenty of chocolate bars before it has no fiber in it. So yeah i hope this information helps you in some way , it sure did help me. Oh , and another thing , losing weight is not a quick thing. The healthy way it takes plenty of time to lose it but you will be rid of it forever if you stay on that diet for life which should not be hard because who doesn't like eating meat?
I'm trying to reduce my meat and animal products intake, to be honest. I'm not about to become a vegan though.
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Sweet jesus it was nearly spot on about the weight lost and time taken too @_@
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On March 12 2012 06:06 Grobyc wrote:+ Show Spoiler +Sweet jesus it was nearly spot on about the weight lost and time taken too @_@
Something ate the left side of your picture :s
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Ah it was just micronesia's post from above, just wanted to put the focus on the ad lol
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If you're not motivated enough to even wake up an hour earlier, it's hard to get anything done. Do a 30min walk/run 3x/week keeping score and trying to beat your time, soon you won't even feel so tired from work.
I lost 100lb through just dieting/exercise and would never forgo the latter. Actually, after getting to the point of running 10-20min 6x/week and swimming an hour 3x/week, I'm looking for ways to stop losing weight.
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On March 12 2012 06:55 Soap wrote:
If you're not motivated enough to even wake up an hour earlier, it's hard to get anything done. Do a 30min walk/run 3x/week keeping score and trying to beat your time, soon you won't even feel so tired from work.
I lost 100lb through just dieting/exercise and would never forgo the latter. Actually, after getting to the point of running 10-20min 6x/week and swimming an hour 3x/week, I'm looking for ways to stop losing weight.
I already wake up at 5:30am for work... don't really want to have to get up at 4:30 or earlier to go for a jog and shower :-/
I also never feel like exercising when I get up. I know it works really well for some people but has never really been my thing.
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I'm not a nutritionist or educated PT but I am an aspiring body-builder and I have cut down in order to reduce body fat from time to time. First thing I would like to say is that these special meals with low calories can be great in order to quickly lose fat but the most important thing is to have a long-term plan for how you will eat after you get of the temporary diet. See it as a quick loan of money, it will make your time a bit easier for a while but without a good financial plan you will soon be back to where you started or worse.
Secondly, a lot of people here talk about exercising. We all know exercising is good for you but the truth is that you do not have to exercise at all and you can still go down and maintain low body-fat and weight. It's actually quite simple, if your intake of calories is bigger than what you use up you gain weight, if your intake is less than you use it's the opposite - you lose weight. If you know how many calories you "spend" everyday you can simply put your intake about 500-750 lower than you need and you will lose weight over time (7000 calories is about 1 kg of body-fat). If you exercise that simply means you will use more calories and it will speed up your metabolism but it's not at all needed.
You can ask a lot of body-builders, a lot of them never do cardio and still they lose weight, it's all about controlling the diet.
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On March 12 2012 07:05 micronesia wrote:Show nested quote +On March 12 2012 06:55 Soap wrote:
If you're not motivated enough to even wake up an hour earlier, it's hard to get anything done. Do a 30min walk/run 3x/week keeping score and trying to beat your time, soon you won't even feel so tired from work.
I lost 100lb through just dieting/exercise and would never forgo the latter. Actually, after getting to the point of running 10-20min 6x/week and swimming an hour 3x/week, I'm looking for ways to stop losing weight. I already wake up at 5:30am for work... don't really want to have to get up at 4:30 or earlier to go for a jog and shower :-/ I also never feel like exercising when I get up. I know it works really well for some people but has never really been my thing.
So you say the solution is exercise but doesn't want to either before or after work, what do you have in mind? It's not like you can do it in your sleep.
Secondly, a lot of people here talk about exercising. We all know exercising is good for you but the truth is that you do not have to exercise at all and you can still go down and maintain low body-fat and weight. It's actually quite simple, if your intake of calories is bigger than what you use up you gain weight, if your intake is less than you use it's the opposite - you lose weight. If you know how many calories you "spend" everyday you can simply put your intake about 500-750 lower than you need and you will lose weight over time (7000 calories is about 1 kg of body-fat). If you exercise that simply means you will use more calories and it will speed up your metabolism but it's not at all needed.
It doesn't work like that, your body doesn't burn only fat but also protein (muscle). Of course people "exercise" throughout their day or a lot would end up looking like cancer patients, but unless one does a lot of manual labor it takes a lot of effort and frustration to maintain a balanced diet, while exercise improves health, productivity and quality of life (hey, I'm eating pizza right now and still losing 2.2lb a week)
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On March 12 2012 07:46 Soap wrote:Show nested quote +On March 12 2012 07:05 micronesia wrote:On March 12 2012 06:55 Soap wrote:
If you're not motivated enough to even wake up an hour earlier, it's hard to get anything done. Do a 30min walk/run 3x/week keeping score and trying to beat your time, soon you won't even feel so tired from work.
I lost 100lb through just dieting/exercise and would never forgo the latter. Actually, after getting to the point of running 10-20min 6x/week and swimming an hour 3x/week, I'm looking for ways to stop losing weight. I already wake up at 5:30am for work... don't really want to have to get up at 4:30 or earlier to go for a jog and shower :-/ I also never feel like exercising when I get up. I know it works really well for some people but has never really been my thing. So you say the solution is exercise but doesn't want to either before or after work, what do you have in mind? It's not like you can do it in your sleep.
As I said my schedule will be changing in a few months so there's no point in me working really hard to find something that works right now.
It would have to be after work obviously but I hadn't found a way to do it yet that works for me.
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On March 12 2012 07:46 Soap wrote:Show nested quote +On March 12 2012 07:05 micronesia wrote:On March 12 2012 06:55 Soap wrote:
If you're not motivated enough to even wake up an hour earlier, it's hard to get anything done. Do a 30min walk/run 3x/week keeping score and trying to beat your time, soon you won't even feel so tired from work.
I lost 100lb through just dieting/exercise and would never forgo the latter. Actually, after getting to the point of running 10-20min 6x/week and swimming an hour 3x/week, I'm looking for ways to stop losing weight. I already wake up at 5:30am for work... don't really want to have to get up at 4:30 or earlier to go for a jog and shower :-/ I also never feel like exercising when I get up. I know it works really well for some people but has never really been my thing. So you say the solution is exercise but doesn't want to either before or after work, what do you have in mind? It's not like you can do it in your sleep. Show nested quote +Secondly, a lot of people here talk about exercising. We all know exercising is good for you but the truth is that you do not have to exercise at all and you can still go down and maintain low body-fat and weight. It's actually quite simple, if your intake of calories is bigger than what you use up you gain weight, if your intake is less than you use it's the opposite - you lose weight. If you know how many calories you "spend" everyday you can simply put your intake about 500-750 lower than you need and you will lose weight over time (7000 calories is about 1 kg of body-fat). If you exercise that simply means you will use more calories and it will speed up your metabolism but it's not at all needed. It doesn't work like that, your body doesn't burn only fat but also protein (muscle). Of course people "exercise" throughout their day or a lot would end up looking like cancer patients, but unless one does a lot of manual labor it takes a lot of effort and frustration to maintain a balanced diet, while exercise improves health, productivity and quality of life (hey, I'm eating pizza right now and still losing 2.2lb a week)
you must be losing muscle as well because losing 2.2lb of pure fat a week is near impossible unless your obese.
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Well, if you say so. If you prefer to join a gym:
- walk/run - great if you're competitive, and surprisingly relaxing.
- pick a distance or time you're comfortable with and do it, then try to improve it.
- distance is best for performance, time is best for convenience.
- if you need a reference, check the running thread on H&F, but aim low to not get frustrated.
- always slow down rather than stop before the end.
- if you have trouble keeping up, hire a trainer (picture it as a friend who's always there, pushing and planning everything for you). Just make sure to be someone you get along well (don't hire a bodybuilder if you just wanna do a little cardio because the dude(tte) is ripped, odds are you have totally different mindsets and it will drive you insane)
- join an aerobics class - it's more social and easier to keep up, but more complex and thus less productive.
- swim - probably the best activity per se, but very difficult.
- weightlift for bonus pride and joy points, here I find a trainer essential at least for a few months.
- I don't recommend stationary bikes, ellipticals and the like, I've yet to feel someone is working very hard on those and that's because they're very unnatural movements that activate little of the body.
Or walk/run in the streets or a park. With a friend or good music, nice scenery and a GPS watch or smartphone to keep track is probably ideal.
On March 12 2012 08:29 Knap4life wrote:Show nested quote +On March 12 2012 07:46 Soap wrote:On March 12 2012 07:05 micronesia wrote:On March 12 2012 06:55 Soap wrote:
If you're not motivated enough to even wake up an hour earlier, it's hard to get anything done. Do a 30min walk/run 3x/week keeping score and trying to beat your time, soon you won't even feel so tired from work.
I lost 100lb through just dieting/exercise and would never forgo the latter. Actually, after getting to the point of running 10-20min 6x/week and swimming an hour 3x/week, I'm looking for ways to stop losing weight. I already wake up at 5:30am for work... don't really want to have to get up at 4:30 or earlier to go for a jog and shower :-/ I also never feel like exercising when I get up. I know it works really well for some people but has never really been my thing. So you say the solution is exercise but doesn't want to either before or after work, what do you have in mind? It's not like you can do it in your sleep. Secondly, a lot of people here talk about exercising. We all know exercising is good for you but the truth is that you do not have to exercise at all and you can still go down and maintain low body-fat and weight. It's actually quite simple, if your intake of calories is bigger than what you use up you gain weight, if your intake is less than you use it's the opposite - you lose weight. If you know how many calories you "spend" everyday you can simply put your intake about 500-750 lower than you need and you will lose weight over time (7000 calories is about 1 kg of body-fat). If you exercise that simply means you will use more calories and it will speed up your metabolism but it's not at all needed. It doesn't work like that, your body doesn't burn only fat but also protein (muscle). Of course people "exercise" throughout their day or a lot would end up looking like cancer patients, but unless one does a lot of manual labor it takes a lot of effort and frustration to maintain a balanced diet, while exercise improves health, productivity and quality of life (hey, I'm eating pizza right now and still losing 2.2lb a week) you must be losing muscle as well because losing 2.2lb of pure fat a week is near impossible unless your obese.
I weightlift 3x a week, otherwise you'd be right. Once I crash dieted and lost about 20lbs very fast, stupidest thing I ever did, got postural problems and no strength whatsoever.
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On March 12 2012 04:36 micronesia wrote:Show nested quote +On March 12 2012 04:35 turdburgler wrote:
you should get some weights and do 10 reps every time you make a post on TL
then youve already found some spare time, and you are now filling it with exercise Can you suggest the types of weights and types of exercises? If it's quick and easy to implement maybe I would do it.
wasnt trying to be your personal doctor. you wanted to add more physicality to your day and you say you dont know how you would find spare time. time on TL is already spare time, which is the hardest part to sort out according to your posts. just do something, anything in the time. since you dont know how long you will have to sit on TL at a given time an exercise based on how long you are there seems suitable.
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On March 12 2012 10:00 turdburgler wrote:Show nested quote +On March 12 2012 04:36 micronesia wrote:On March 12 2012 04:35 turdburgler wrote:
you should get some weights and do 10 reps every time you make a post on TL
then youve already found some spare time, and you are now filling it with exercise Can you suggest the types of weights and types of exercises? If it's quick and easy to implement maybe I would do it. wasnt trying to be your personal doctor. you wanted to add more physicality to your day and you say you dont know how you would find spare time. time on TL is already spare time, which is the hardest part to sort out according to your posts. just do something, anything in the time. since you dont know how long you will have to sit on TL at a given time an exercise based on how long you are there seems suitable.
What are you basically is suggesting that I replace my time on TL with exercise. Noble, but this puts me in a bit of a conflict of interest LOL
The assumption that I have equal amounts of free time to TL-free time is not necessary founded though. On the other hand, it would be worth giving it a try.
The problem is most of my time on tl is done either early in the morning when I'm not primed to exercise, late at night when I need to go to bed, etc... so most of that time isn't good for exercising. I also tend to flip back and forth between tl and other things I am doing... for me flipping between accomplishing things and exercise may not work well.
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update: I broke my final goal of 170 pounds... I'm in the upper 160s now. I'm going to shift my focus over to fitness (although I'm still going to maintain a reasonable diet). At some time in the future I will share my progress on that front.
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just curious, how tall are you?
i just want to put the weight with a height.
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On May 20 2012 01:07 ToFu. wrote:
just curious, how tall are you?
i just want to put the weight with a height.
About halfway between 5'10" and 5'11" (about 1.79 meters)
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Completely unrelated. But how do you make that line which is the average of all points in excel ^^? I am dieing to find out, I have been searching for like an hour haha. I use excel 2007.
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On May 20 2012 02:12 Recognizable wrote:
Completely unrelated. But how do you make that line which is the average of all points in excel ^^? I am dieing to find out, I have been searching for like an hour haha. I use excel 2007.
That line is a linear trendline. After you have the data graphed, right click on one of the data points carefully, and choose to add a trendline. From there, you have the options to change the characteristics of the trendline (polynomial, exponential, etc)
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Thanks, I needed that for my physics report.
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On May 20 2012 04:54 Recognizable wrote:
Thanks, I needed that for my physics report.
What graph are you constructing? Hanging mass added to a spring vs elongation? Position vs time? Voltage vs Current? :p
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On May 20 2012 05:05 micronesia wrote:Show nested quote +On May 20 2012 04:54 Recognizable wrote:
Thanks, I needed that for my physics report. What graph are you constructing? Hanging mass added to a spring vs elongation? Position vs time? Voltage vs Current? :p
This is the formula: r^2=(2*U*m)/(q*B^2 ). Sin(a) is left out because a is 90 degrees. We fired electrons in a helmholtz coil so they make a circle. Calculate B, derive the constant from B=C*(I/R). C constitutes to this: (4/5)^3/2*µ0*N
So basically we are calculating the number of wire loops in the Helmholtz coil. We needed that linear trendline so we can take slope of that trendline to get the average 1/(q*B^2).
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On May 20 2012 05:22 Recognizable wrote:Show nested quote +On May 20 2012 05:05 micronesia wrote:On May 20 2012 04:54 Recognizable wrote:
Thanks, I needed that for my physics report. What graph are you constructing? Hanging mass added to a spring vs elongation? Position vs time? Voltage vs Current? :p This is the formula: r^2=(2*U*m)/(q*B^2 ). Sin(a) is left out because a is 90 degrees. We fired electrons in a helmholtz coil so they make a circle. Calculate B, derive the constant from B=C*(I/R). C constitutes to this: (4/5)^3/2*µ0*N So basically we are calculating the number of wire loops in the Helmholtz coil. We needed that linear trendline so we can take slope of that trendline to get the average 1/(q*B^2).
Oh, if that is the experiment you are doing then I am surprised you aren't already intimately familiar with features like trendlines in Excel. Another thing to consider is doing the data analysis yourself and then using the Excel Add-In "Solver" to minimize chi squared. (this will work for any theoretical equation... not just lines or the build in ones in the trend-line functionality)
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I just never used excel, ever. I don't really understand your last point. Chi squared?
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On May 20 2012 06:08 Recognizable wrote:
I just never used excel, ever. I don't really understand your last point. Chi squared?
Referring to statistical methods for fitting data to a theoretical equation. I'm not going to go into detail now so if you don't need to do it, not a big deal :p
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