EPT"Oh darn, just missed that million dollar store mark by an amount that would equal the price of a small condo! Maybe next fiscal year!"
This was supposed to be sarcastic and I was irritated.
I was fired over a facebook post today. - Page 3
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Porcelain
United States218 Posts
"Oh darn, just missed that million dollar store mark by an amount that would equal the price of a small condo! Maybe next fiscal year!" This was supposed to be sarcastic and I was irritated. | ||
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Slightly
United States80 Posts
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Skilledblob
Germany3392 Posts
On March 03 2012 08:42 Porcelain wrote: I'm hoping this will cause me to find a better paying job (it better lol). Like this situation was "meant to be" or something. : / It wasn't offensive, but considered to be proprietary information about company goals. And it was... : / The rest of the post was even worse, in my opinion (but wasn't what got me fired). I was ranting about something I thought was unfair (and only negatively impacting me in this case) because we "just missed that million dollar store mark." so you made a public comment about a (just my assumption) wallstreet noted company which could effect its stocks worth because there might be rumors about the company having a bad quarter and you do not think that this might be a problem? Never ever speak publicly about the inner workings of your company that's what you got the PR department for. And reading your work contract might help too before you sign it. | ||
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Risen
United States7927 Posts
On March 03 2012 09:15 Porcelain wrote: Wow. If you break a policy like I did, and HR is notified with proof, they are required to immediately terminate you. My district manager cried when she gave me the termination letter. I am valued. I know this through feedback and reviews. I was one of the best actually. It's extremely unfortunate, but they take this really seriously. Some woman in HR that I've never heard of/met doesn't realize who she's forcing my DM to terminate. I'm just a number to them, because of how large the company is. Why isn't your fbook set to private? How do you know this "trusted" friend is the one who ratted you out? | ||
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EvilTeletubby
Baltimore, USA22258 Posts
On March 03 2012 09:03 Soleron wrote: I was looking at "right to work" laws. Some of the arguments against these laws claim people can just be fired for any reason. Is that an exaggeration? Are there government-mandated appeal options against firing? Are there reasons one cannot be fired pertaining to outside of job speech? Mmm... Yes and No. Many places do indeed have guidelines that allow for easy dismissal of an employee at any time, but employees are never going to fired for 'any reason' due to how unemployment compensation works. Long story short, if you get fired from your job, you have the right to request unemployment pay (which is state run but ultimately the money pool comes from the companies themselves, so it is in the company's best interest to have as few people paid unemployment as possible). If you're granted unemployment pay, the company then has an opportunity to demonstrate that you do not qualify for the pay, typically due to gross misconduct of company policies or other legal violations, and can request a reversal of benefits. If the ex-employee is still granted unemployment by the state, the company can decide to appeal. This will lead to a hearing with the ex-employee and representatives for the company, which functions much like a court trial (both sides present evidence, make their statements, etc.). Once the hearing is over, the arbitrator for the state makes their judgement. An ex-employee could take it beyond just unemployment benefits, and actually sue the company for lost wages and compensation if they were falsely terminated. This can end up costing a company quite a bit of money obviously, both in the actual compensation to the employee and in lawyer costs. It might be technically easy to go through the act of firing someone, but I can assure you it's not simply done without good, justifiable, legal reasons due to the costs to the company if they're found to be in the wrong. | ||
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Risen
United States7927 Posts
On March 03 2012 09:29 EvilTeletubby wrote: Mmm... Yes and No. Many places do indeed have guidelines that allow for easy dismissal of an employee at any time, but employees are never going to fired for 'any reason' due to how unemployment compensation works. Long story short, if you get fired from your job, you have the right to request unemployment pay (which is state run but ultimately the money pool comes from the companies themselves, so it is in the company's best interest to have as few people paid unemployment as possible). If you're granted unemployment pay, the company then has an opportunity to demonstrate that you do not qualify for the pay, typically due to gross misconduct of company policies or other legal violations, and can request a reversal of benefits. If the ex-employee is still granted unemployment by the state, the company can decide to appeal. This will lead to a hearing with the ex-employee and representatives for the company, which functions much like a court trial (both sides present evidence, make their statements, etc.). Once the hearing is over, the arbitrator for the state makes their judgement. An ex-employee could take it beyond just unemployment benefits, and actually sue the company for lost wages and compensation if they were falsely terminated. This can end up costing a company quite a bit of money obviously, both in the actual compensation to the employee and in lawyer costs. It might be technically easy to go through the act of firing someone, but I can assure you it's not simply done without good, justifiable, legal reasons due to the costs to the company if they're found to be in the wrong. Worked in a "right-to-work" state. This is 100% true. No one ever gets fired for anything that isn't able to be backed up 100%, and when unemployment comes into the picture companies will, and do, fight against you receiving unemployment if you got fired for something that was in violation of company rules. | ||
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Porcelain
United States218 Posts
This is not something I'm making up. I was legit fired for disclosing proprietary information referring to the volume of the store. ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/AJvjT.jpg) I feel like my world has been turned upside down. I know it's my fault. That girl wanted me gone, and she found something she knew would cause termination. That's why I'm so angry. I know I technically live in an "at-will" employment state, but from everything I've read it seems that if a company has a set of policy and procedures for terminating someone they must legally follow them. I was never suspended. They didn't follow the steps listed there, they immediately terminated me. My DM is the one who said the "at-will" thing, and that their social networking policy (which I signed when it was implemented last year) says that violation is cause for immediate termination. | ||
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Kukaracha
France1954 Posts
Break your coworker's windows. | ||
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whatthefat
United States918 Posts
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Spekulatius
Germany2413 Posts
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Porcelain
United States218 Posts
On March 03 2012 09:48 whatthefat wrote: Strange thing to post on facebook (who of your friends would care at all about such inane details?), but it's rather harsh to be terminated over that alone, in my opinion. If I was in your position, I would probably have some rather choice words for your co-worker/"friend". My close friends on fb knew I was expecting a status change if my store met goal that fiscal year. I was really upset that everything was riding on the numbers alone. I don't have tons of friends on facebook, they all know me personally. | ||
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MrBitter
United States2940 Posts
On March 03 2012 09:48 whatthefat wrote: Strange thing to post on facebook (who of your friends would care at all about such inane details?), but it's rather harsh to be terminated over that alone, in my opinion. If I was in your position, I would probably have some rather choice words for your co-worker/"friend". It's not really that harsh... If I post on Facebook "Damn, our deal with [Random Sponsor] fell through" you'd better believe my bosses at ESL would be pissed off. Unfortunate circumstance, and the coworker that reported it is a tremendous cunt, but sadly this is the way the professional world works sometimes. | ||
intrigue
Washington, D.C9934 Posts
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sc4k
United Kingdom5454 Posts
Got to say that, if you weren't on a probationary period or anything, it's quite amazing they were able to fire you immediately for your policy violation. Depending on the terms of your employment contract there might be grounds for unfair dismissal or the US equivalent of that. | ||
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English
United States475 Posts
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firefistAce
United States137 Posts
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Jibba
United States22883 Posts
I'm sorry it happened, but I'm sure you'll learn from it. | ||
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noobcakes
United States526 Posts
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ulan-bat
China403 Posts
On March 03 2012 09:43 Porcelain wrote: I was legit fired for disclosing proprietary information referring to the volume of the store. Was there a way of knowing the company you worked for or the store concerned within your facebook public profile? | ||
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Silentness
United States2821 Posts
I put as my job title: "Slave" and I haven't gotten any angry emails or phone calls yet telling me to change my job position. I know one day it's going to bite me in the ass, but I haven't compromised any secret classified information or anything of the sort so I still have my Top Secret security clearance. I hate it though when I see military members posting pictures of themselves in uniform on Facebook in locations that aren't supposed to be seen by the public eye: For example... a remote location in Afghanistan and you're shown in uniform with your rifle in hand and you posing in front of a distinguished landmark so that possibly some facebook stalker can use against the military. That stuff will get you in bigger trouble than "fired". __________________ HOWEVER, if I was the OP... I'd 100% DEFINITELY have my facebook page set to private. I'd only add people that are truly my friends and not co-workers that I think would try to backstab me. One day when I go out to the "real" world and work with regular civilians I'll definitely stop all my social networking BS so that prospective job employers or whatever don't see my sarcastic ways of thinking. I might even delete my facebook page when I take social networking seriously. | ||
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