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iTunes Sucks PSA

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sob3k
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States7572 Posts
February 18 2012 23:22 GMT
#1
Holy crap, I just made an very unpleasant discovery about iTunes.

You know the little volume adjustment slider in the options for each track?

This one:
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If you turn it up it introduces HORRIFIC distortion to the song. I never realized this until I was listening to one of my starts for mastering and it blew my mind. I had to reset it for my entire library.

If you want to hear just how much it can fuck up your music I have a little TEST BEAT to try. Just download it and listen in iTunes with no volume adjustment vs. +100% volume adjustment. The difference should be night and day.

Just using normal volume sliders wont cause any distortion...so I have no idea why this is happening, sucks though.

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In Hungry Hungry Hippos there are no such constraints—one can constantly attempt to collect marbles with one’s hippo, limited only by one’s hippo-levering capabilities.
Elsid
Profile Joined September 2010
Ireland318 Posts
February 18 2012 23:25 GMT
#2
If i remember correctly it has to do with the maximum volume output of the medium or speakers. The tops of the wave lengths get cut off and you get a clipping sound with massive distortion
Grend
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
1600 Posts
February 18 2012 23:26 GMT
#3
Youre distorting the sound to "push" past max volume by distorting low sounds to louder ones.
I think
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sob3k
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States7572 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-18 23:28:44
February 18 2012 23:28 GMT
#4
On February 19 2012 08:25 Elsid wrote:
If i remember correctly it has to do with the maximum volume output of the medium or speakers. The tops of the wave lengths get cut off and you get a clipping sound with massive distortion


Right, but you can turn the volume up with the normal iTunes volume or the system volume with no issues. This just means they did some terrible workaround with boosting the gain or compressing or something for the in-options adjustment instead of having it just secretly move the itunes volume.
In Hungry Hungry Hippos there are no such constraints—one can constantly attempt to collect marbles with one’s hippo, limited only by one’s hippo-levering capabilities.
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18832 Posts
February 18 2012 23:29 GMT
#5
This is a different volume than the one you describe. The one you are thinking of is system volume, game volume, or some other other standard sound adjustment metric. Volume adjustment ala the itunes function is a volume change relative to the preset volume for the track. A lot of downloaded music, oftentimes illegal mind you, has variable volume levels due to less than ideal ripping from the uploader, and this function can help. As for the distortion? Deal with it.jpg
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R1CH
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Netherlands10341 Posts
February 18 2012 23:46 GMT
#6
Does it support replaygain? That's the best way to deal with tracks with inconsistent volumes.
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sob3k
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States7572 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-19 00:18:24
February 19 2012 00:14 GMT
#7
On February 19 2012 08:29 farvacola wrote:
This is a different volume than the one you describe. The one you are thinking of is system volume, game volume, or some other other standard sound adjustment metric. Volume adjustment ala the itunes function is a volume change relative to the preset volume for the track. A lot of downloaded music, oftentimes illegal mind you, has variable volume levels due to less than ideal ripping from the uploader, and this function can help. As for the distortion? Deal with it.jpg


Clearly they are different, I can hear that easily. My question is why.

On February 19 2012 08:46 R1CH wrote:
Does it support replaygain? That's the best way to deal with tracks with inconsistent volumes.


Not for free there is iVolume which uses the same algorithm apparently. It looks like a hassle to use too. eh, I think I'll just use my ears and do it manually.
In Hungry Hungry Hippos there are no such constraints—one can constantly attempt to collect marbles with one’s hippo, limited only by one’s hippo-levering capabilities.
RogerX
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
New Zealand3180 Posts
February 19 2012 00:51 GMT
#8
Yup, but I wouldn't say itunes sucks just cus one of their features isn't very good.

I have yet to change my volumes back, that distortion makes me wish I never played my favorite track.
Stick it up. take it up. step aside and see the world
Elsid
Profile Joined September 2010
Ireland318 Posts
February 19 2012 01:19 GMT
#9
On February 19 2012 08:28 sob3k wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 19 2012 08:25 Elsid wrote:
If i remember correctly it has to do with the maximum volume output of the medium or speakers. The tops of the wave lengths get cut off and you get a clipping sound with massive distortion


Right, but you can turn the volume up with the normal iTunes volume or the system volume with no issues. This just means they did some terrible workaround with boosting the gain or compressing or something for the in-options adjustment instead of having it just secretly move the itunes volume.



Oh I apologize I see what you mean now ^_^
sicnarf
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada39 Posts
February 19 2012 04:31 GMT
#10
iTunes sucks cause it's forced down your throat in order to use your apple products....

also, if you have already have an extensive library (I have terabytes of music as I am a dj), thats organized a certain way, itunes sucks ass... you kinda HAVE to sort your library in the way itunes dictates.

tbh, anything over itunes imo, even friggin windows media player doesnt annoy me as much.
BenBuford
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Denmark307 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-19 09:11:43
February 19 2012 09:10 GMT
#11
Warning: Apple inside! + Show Spoiler +
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Make sure you have "Sound Enhancer" and "Sound Check" turned off (Playback settings). Those two can distort your audio horribly.

I almost thought my speakers were broken, before i googled for solutions and found out I needed to uncheck these two..

Not the smoothes programming in a highly profiled piece of software like iTunes...
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