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One buddy did modeling but i guess that's for a slim few the other taught English privately but he had to prepare for that back here with how to actually teach. the third said he had a business admin degree from Canada and taught company's there the etiquette and ideals of how the western worlds does business.
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Do you have a Visa? If not, start applying for a Working Holiday Visa.
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On February 18 2012 04:06 Kaolla wrote:Show nested quote +On February 18 2012 03:40 Chaggi wrote:On February 18 2012 03:34 ExceeD_DreaM wrote:On February 18 2012 03:33 Chaggi wrote: You can probably private teach. But as soon as they find out you're not from one of the native speaking English countries... yeah - it won't be good. And that is really not the right thing to do. You are basically cheating those people into believing that you are fluent in English. That's a completely moronic move and should not be done. It's also pretty easy to tell. There's a lot of foreigners, and Koreans consume a lot of western media. Doubt it, in China most ppl i talk to think I'm from the US or England despite having a Dutch accent. Although I guess it's hard to hear for ppl from other countries and it would be mostly the Dutch that would hear im from Holland... A guy from the Australia that I spoke to a few weeks ago in a bar even thought I was from the US (normally I don't ask of course but he mentioned that when I said I was Dutch)... I mean it's not always as easy to recognize an accent and even if you do where it's from... And i also doubt they rly care... Not sure how the situation is in S Kor, but I know here in China they most of the time don't care too much, as long as the price is a bit lower or they know your English is ok... When I left my old company my manager in that company called me a few times to teach his son and some of his friends English as he knew I didn't have a job and didn't mind doing it. None of them cared that I wasn't a native and in general it's still very good practise for them, especially since they barely get to practise speaking... Like I said before, I'm not sure if the same can be applied to Korea, but I bet there's plenty of ppl who would be more than happy to pay for any non-native with decent English... Felt I had to say that, since I think you guys are being too negative ... That said, finding a job in S Kor will be hard and i wouldnt count on flippin burgers... South Kors can do it cheaper than you and on top of that they speak the language and they don't need working visas. Good luck whatever you decide ^^
China is a pretty big place and vastly different depending on where you are and the people you interact with. I'm from Shanghai myself, but I can tell you that my cousins from other areas are completely different from one another in terms of what they are exposed to. So that's not really a good indication.
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Thanks everyone for answers, even the harsh ones
If I went to Korea to study for one year, it would be through uni-exchange program, that means I would pay no tuition and would get money each month from our government. So me going to Korea doesn't depend on getting a job there or not. It would be nice to earn some money to be able to go out more though. Well, guess I will have to be visiting GOM studio a lot to get free pizza! :D
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On February 18 2012 05:55 ondik wrote:Thanks everyone for answers, even the harsh ones If I went to Korea to study for one year, it would be through uni-exchange program, that means I would pay no tuition and would get money each month from our government. So me going to Korea doesn't depend on getting a job there or not. It would be nice to earn some money to be able to go out more though. Well, guess I will have to be visiting GOM studio a lot to get free pizza! :D
The hell?! They have free pizza!??! I NEVER FOUND THE FREE PIZZA!!!
And you should, even though I've never met anyone from TL, I hear there's a good group of people in Seoul, and it's all in all a great place. I've been here for like almost 2 years myself now.
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On February 18 2012 05:55 ondik wrote:Thanks everyone for answers, even the harsh ones If I went to Korea to study for one year, it would be through uni-exchange program, that means I would pay no tuition and would get money each month from our government. So me going to Korea doesn't depend on getting a job there or not. It would be nice to earn some money to be able to go out more though. Well, guess I will have to be visiting GOM studio a lot to get free pizza! :D I wish I could go as well Unfortunately I'm studying biology and CUNI doesn't send us there. But hey maybe you'll run into my ex-gf who's also studying economics and wants to go there. If you do meet her, tell her Stratos sends a fuck off. Thanks. + Show Spoiler +
PS Take some pictures and blog the whole Korea experience if it works out! GL
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On February 18 2012 03:33 Chaggi wrote: You can probably private teach. But as soon as they find out you're not from one of the native speaking English countries... yeah - it won't be good. Out of curiosity, if you're Asian but also a native English speaker with a degree and good grades from a highly-regarded US university, how difficult would it be to get a job there (whether as a private teacher or a teacher in one of the schools)?
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On February 18 2012 05:02 Chaggi wrote:Show nested quote +On February 18 2012 04:06 Kaolla wrote:On February 18 2012 03:40 Chaggi wrote:On February 18 2012 03:34 ExceeD_DreaM wrote:On February 18 2012 03:33 Chaggi wrote: You can probably private teach. But as soon as they find out you're not from one of the native speaking English countries... yeah - it won't be good. And that is really not the right thing to do. You are basically cheating those people into believing that you are fluent in English. That's a completely moronic move and should not be done. It's also pretty easy to tell. There's a lot of foreigners, and Koreans consume a lot of western media. Doubt it, in China most ppl i talk to think I'm from the US or England despite having a Dutch accent. Although I guess it's hard to hear for ppl from other countries and it would be mostly the Dutch that would hear im from Holland... A guy from the Australia that I spoke to a few weeks ago in a bar even thought I was from the US (normally I don't ask of course but he mentioned that when I said I was Dutch)... I mean it's not always as easy to recognize an accent and even if you do where it's from... And i also doubt they rly care... Not sure how the situation is in S Kor, but I know here in China they most of the time don't care too much, as long as the price is a bit lower or they know your English is ok... When I left my old company my manager in that company called me a few times to teach his son and some of his friends English as he knew I didn't have a job and didn't mind doing it. None of them cared that I wasn't a native and in general it's still very good practise for them, especially since they barely get to practise speaking... Like I said before, I'm not sure if the same can be applied to Korea, but I bet there's plenty of ppl who would be more than happy to pay for any non-native with decent English... Felt I had to say that, since I think you guys are being too negative ... That said, finding a job in S Kor will be hard and i wouldnt count on flippin burgers... South Kors can do it cheaper than you and on top of that they speak the language and they don't need working visas. Good luck whatever you decide ^^ China is a pretty big place and vastly different depending on where you are and the people you interact with. I'm from Shanghai myself, but I can tell you that my cousins from other areas are completely different from one another in terms of what they are exposed to. So that's not really a good indication.
Yea sure ppl are different in all areas, what's that got to do with it tho?? They all wanna learn English... I've been to many towns/cities in China and almost everywhere you will meet ppl who want to talk to you just to practise English...
Shanghai is prolly the city with the most expats and if there is demand for non native English speakers here, there's demand for 'em anywhere...
Fact is that it's easy to land a job as English teacher anywhere in China if you are white, even if your English is half crappy and you have an accent.
I don't rly expect it to be different in Korea as everyone wants to learn English and there's only a limited number of English teacher who are freakin expensive... I would say you might not be able to charge the same amount of money, but you should be able to find some work teaching English...
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On February 18 2012 03:33 ExceeD_DreaM wrote: Um, people saying job market is not bad in Korea have no clue... This is REALLY off topic but just 2 days ago, I read Nate article about Korea's job employeement rate in their 20's. Officially it is around 9%, but that is not counting people who went to the army, who gave up on finding jobs, who cannot find a job in student status and etc. Putting everything together, it soars to around 23%. That is 1 out of 4 Koreans graduated from UNIVERSITY not being able to find a job. Not only that, but finding a good decent job is slim. Basically, to find a happy job with decent benefits and decent pay so that you will be able to get married, have kids, etc is slim to none. One only needs to read Naver or Nate news daily or Pan just to have a grasp of how bad and desperate the situation is in their 20's. Birthrate is at 1.1 because people cannot afford to have children. Both people need to work their ass off for decent apartment yet that is often still not enough. You basically need to be a top notch in top universities to get a decent job or study from good university overseas... I am so glad I am not working in Korea right now...
All in all, if you do not have an English degree, even though there are plenty of unqualified retarded english teachers in Korea, chance of getting a job there is probably sub 0. Remember, Korean students with pretty good degrees cannot get a job they want most of the time.. Yea but the job market in the U.S. is just as bad if not worse(okay maybe not as bad as 23% as you say)and I'm pretty sure it's for all ages not just people in their 20's. And I know it's been awhile ago but when it first hit the U.S.about 4 years ago, circuit city had to officially close down and people were getting laid out from their jobs and it's been veryvery hard to find a job since then even at Mcdonalds unless you have connections. And this is off-topic but with megaupload shutting down and them trying to get rid of illegal dling in the U.S. on top of all this, I think it's time to gtfo here and start life elsewhere.
I think for you though, that deal in china "teach for china" thing sounds pretty sweet and u don't even have to be a fluent native english speaker and u get to go to china.
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