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Going Random in S6
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Deleted User 61629
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Arachne
South Africa426 Posts
Day9 has the best way of playing random, and that is play a race for each day/practice session. Alternatively, tell yourself "Once I lose 1 game, i switch races" | ||
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Turo
Canada333 Posts
pvp - 1 gate robo into 3 gates, or straight 3 gate pvz - ffe exclusively. just need to scout effectively, and it becomes the most solid opening. those are my suggestions | ||
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Deleted User 61629
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Talin
Montenegro10532 Posts
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DYEAlabaster
Canada1009 Posts
On February 01 2012 18:39 TheEconomist wrote: There is no incentive for the other player to believe you once you announce the race. Day9 has the best way of playing random, and that is play a race for each day/practice session. Alternatively, tell yourself "Once I lose 1 game, i switch races" Roll dat dice. 1/2 zerg 3/4 terran 5/6 protss. The way I do it is usually playing x games as random, just to see which race/mu needs most work on, and then I focus solely on that for a good while Edit: zvz- ling/baneling wars will happen. Just get ready for that tvz- reactor hellions. I know it's been said. But seriously. reactor. Hellions. | ||
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Roe
Canada6002 Posts
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Deleted User 61629
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Talin
Montenegro10532 Posts
oh lol, yeah that makes sense now, should have figured -_- I wondered what the webcomic had to do with SC2 Protoss builds.  | ||
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HungrySC2
United States191 Posts
2 rax expand/pressure (gasless) 1 rax FE Reaper Expand Banshee Expand 1-1-1 Reactor hellion expand (not so good against protoss) | ||
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aebriol
Norway2066 Posts
On February 01 2012 18:39 TheEconomist wrote: There is no incentive for the other player to believe you once you announce the race. Sure there is. I always believe people, and if they lie, I just quit the game - instead of wasting my time  | ||
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ThatGuy89
United Kingdom1968 Posts
just roll a dice like someone already said | ||
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Bwall
Sweden145 Posts
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TheAntZ
Israel6248 Posts
Announce race at the start of the game. I want to really learn all 3 races, so I don't want to disrupt my opponents BOs because they don't know my race (i.e. Protoss can go FFE if they know I'm Zerg). I do this, but people dont believe me and protoss still do gateway walloff builds when i random zerg | ||
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heha
Australia425 Posts
 Most people in masters actually seem to believe me when I tell race. Or at least, I face a very large amount of FFEs in ZvP | ||
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Tobberoth
Sweden6375 Posts
On February 01 2012 19:45 Bwall wrote: Advancing to masters will be much harder as a random player than for a specific race, because the matchups are so different. The effort needed is probably more than 3 times that of playing one race. Not really. While knowing matchups etc is important, the most important aspect of SC is mechanics and macro. Pro players are top masters with all races even if they more or less never use them because their mechanics are so good. I'm platinum zerg and got to gold immediately on a terran smurf account even though I had never used T on ladder and I lost 2 placement matches on purpose. It's probably true for most people from plat and up that their offraces are about the same league or one league lower. It's harder for masters since macro makes a smaller difference the higher you go, but saying it's more than 3 times the effort... nah. | ||
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teamamerica
United States958 Posts
As for TvT, something with mech is really vague. I'd go Thorzains 1rax expo, as one rax expo is fine for holding anything (reaper/hellion/medivac play can be really annoying though) or gas first not cloak banshee into mech if you want mech. 1-1-1 is terrible vs Zerg (again, imo), mass ling just crushes you. If the Z sees you haven't expanded (and stops droning around 30 and pumps lings you'll get destroyed horribly). And reactor hellion works decently vs Toss, esp when they 1gate expo as you force them to stay at home and can often get ~10 probe kills. Just remember to get a bunker depending on how fast you see their stalker coming. I always am happy to match randoms because I feel if I can survive the early game, I have an advantage in the late game but gl hf to you! | ||
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achristes
Norway653 Posts
Correct me if I'm wrong ^^ | ||
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Deleted User 61629
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achristes
Norway653 Posts
On February 01 2012 22:10 Inori wrote: You're wrong. If a player doesn't play a single game for a full season (so he's not even assigned to a league when ladder resets), then he gets full MMR wipe (5 placement matches instead of 1 and against bronze opponents instead of previous level). Learning something new everyday Sorry for misleading post. | ||
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Xtreme94
Malaysia282 Posts
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Deleted User 61629
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turdburgler
England6749 Posts
On February 01 2012 22:10 Inori wrote: You're wrong. If a player doesn't play a single game for a full season (so he's not even assigned to a league when ladder resets), then he gets full MMR wipe (5 placement matches instead of 1 and against bronze opponents instead of previous level). i havent played my placement yet this season in 1v1 D: time to bring out the masters team league bronze 1v1 status. bnet hero for life | ||
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Deleted User 61629
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Flanagan
United States166 Posts
TvT: 111 cloak banshee, cancel cloak if I see engineering bay or starport with the banshee. TvT: Protoss-style 2rax into delayed combat shield, fast +1 (2 reactor rax, 1 engineering bay, just build fact when stim is at 120) TvT: 1 rax fe into 4 rax marine combat shield timing, take 3rd during push TvT: Defensive 111 ( I like to call it), take guys off gas when factory is started, throw down cc, get gas again, starport for vikings, then while you were spaming hellions, make 2 more facts with extra gas. Either go 2 reactor fact, 1 tech lab and armory upgrades, or 2 tank fact, 1 reactor. | ||
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Bwall
Sweden145 Posts
On February 01 2012 20:08 Tobberoth wrote: Not really. While knowing matchups etc is important, the most important aspect of SC is mechanics and macro. Pro players are top masters with all races even if they more or less never use them because their mechanics are so good. I'm platinum zerg and got to gold immediately on a terran smurf account even though I had never used T on ladder and I lost 2 placement matches on purpose. It's probably true for most people from plat and up that their offraces are about the same league or one league lower. It's harder for masters since macro makes a smaller difference the higher you go, but saying it's more than 3 times the effort... nah. You don't have to believe me, but the fact that you're in plat should give you a hint that you might not have enough insight in what's needed at that level. | ||
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Complete
United States1864 Posts
On February 01 2012 22:10 Inori wrote: You're wrong. If a player doesn't play a single game for a full season (so he's not even assigned to a league when ladder resets), then he gets full MMR wipe (5 placement matches instead of 1 and against bronze opponents instead of previous level). Pretty sure it's 2 seasons homeslice. | ||
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Melchior
United States112 Posts
Yeah, I think it's 2 seasons. I didn't play Season 4, but only have 1 placement match in Season 5... Also a fellow P --> R, just Gold-level :-P | ||
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liberal
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Anyway, switching to random wasn't hard for me at all. I went from high masters to mid masters, not much change really. As long as you know how to macro and you know a basic opening for each matchup, it's pretty simple. Most of your openings are just right... But I would say lean more toward 1rax fe in TvP instead of 2rax. You can still apply a little pressure if you decide to go fast conc shells, it allows you to pick off a few units here and there. In TvT, I say learn the popular bio builds that have been going around, I been learning from a high master who goes 1rax FE in TvT and it's really pretty good if you learn how to stop 1-1-1. Also I still don't like going muta in ZvP, I know it's really popular right now but I crush every zerg who tries it against me, I'm actually loving the PvZ matchup because every single zerg goes mutas and it's a free win to a fast 2base push. Good luck! | ||
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Complete
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