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On January 24 2012 05:41 Gretorp wrote:Show nested quote +On January 24 2012 05:30 StarStruck wrote:
Jason, Jason, Jason
If it were me, I wouldn't touch the NASL's production with a four foot pole because there is so much they could do better. Truly an eye sore. Anyway, more power to you for ironing it out.
Wouldn't be surprised if they give you a star soon. that doesn't even m ake sense? you wouldn't help b/c they can do things better? so you're saying you'd only go with things that they can't do better or they can do better less? that's kind of messed up imo TT
Sound off.
From your perspective; however, I've already given you guys tidbits on what you could do better and so have many other people. I could write a book on all of technical issues if I wanted, but I don't.
I am not here to do anyone's job for them. Especially when it comes to the basics and that's what this comes down to. The basics.
I've watched four of the six videos Jason has done thus far and as I said everything he's pointed out is basic if you have any experience in production let alone went to school for it. It might not be obvious to everyone, but that's why you have to hire the right people for the job because then they would have an idea of what they're actually doing.
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Calgary26004 Posts
On January 24 2012 05:41 Gretorp wrote:Show nested quote +On January 24 2012 05:30 StarStruck wrote:
Jason, Jason, Jason
If it were me, I wouldn't touch the NASL's production with a four foot pole because there is so much they could do better. Truly an eye sore. Anyway, more power to you for ironing it out.
Wouldn't be surprised if they give you a star soon. that doesn't even m ake sense? you wouldn't help b/c they can do things better? so you're saying you'd only go with things that they can't do better or they can do better less? that's kind of messed up imo TT
Would you review the Macbeth video I made for grade 10 English? No, you wouldn't, because it's so far away from good production that the mistakes are obvious. You'd want to spend your efforts on a production that is already 90% of the way there, giving them little tips to give them the extra 10% that are very difficult for the layman to learn about.
He is arguing that NASL is in the <90% category. You argue it is in the >90% category.
It's not messed up to disagree with each another 
Edit: I should have read page 2 before responding
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This "show" is just awesome! I'd really like if you'd announce the event for the next episode in the end of a video, since that's also some sort of value add to your little production 
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Really like this show! Keep it up!
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On January 24 2012 06:15 Chill wrote:Show nested quote +On January 24 2012 05:41 Gretorp wrote:On January 24 2012 05:30 StarStruck wrote:
Jason, Jason, Jason
If it were me, I wouldn't touch the NASL's production with a four foot pole because there is so much they could do better. Truly an eye sore. Anyway, more power to you for ironing it out.
Wouldn't be surprised if they give you a star soon. that doesn't even m ake sense? you wouldn't help b/c they can do things better? so you're saying you'd only go with things that they can't do better or they can do better less? that's kind of messed up imo TT Would you review the Macbeth video I made for grade 10 English? No, you wouldn't, because it's so far away from good production that the mistakes are obvious. You'd want to spend your efforts on a production that is already 90% of the way there, giving them little tips to give them the extra 10% that are very difficult for the layman to learn about. He is arguing that NASL is in the <90% category. You argue it is in the >90% category. It's not messed up to disagree with each another Edit: I should have read page 2 before responding
Anyway, I'm very happy that Jason is doing something like this. He's giving everyone a how to guide on TV production. There are a lot of simple things that people overlook if they aren't paying attention.
In this case, I think it was a lot of inexperience. I mean, it's one thing to learn something on the job it's another thing to put someone in a role that they aren't necessarily qualified for. There's a lot of that in this community. Everyone wants to help out, which is great but there are certain things we shouldn't overlook. Even a consultant could have gone a long way to make sure the production was a bit more posh.
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Glad you made this episode on NASL. Keep up the good work moge!
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Honestly, this is best new "content" I have come across in ESPORTS over the past year.
Keep being a sick nerd baller. I await the next episode! :3
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love to watch this everyime it comes out ...
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I am starting to love this series, so well done and oh so honest. Great job and great episode
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On January 24 2012 06:31 StarStruck wrote:Show nested quote +On January 24 2012 06:15 Chill wrote:On January 24 2012 05:41 Gretorp wrote:On January 24 2012 05:30 StarStruck wrote:
Jason, Jason, Jason
If it were me, I wouldn't touch the NASL's production with a four foot pole because there is so much they could do better. Truly an eye sore. Anyway, more power to you for ironing it out.
Wouldn't be surprised if they give you a star soon. that doesn't even m ake sense? you wouldn't help b/c they can do things better? so you're saying you'd only go with things that they can't do better or they can do better less? that's kind of messed up imo TT Would you review the Macbeth video I made for grade 10 English? No, you wouldn't, because it's so far away from good production that the mistakes are obvious. You'd want to spend your efforts on a production that is already 90% of the way there, giving them little tips to give them the extra 10% that are very difficult for the layman to learn about. He is arguing that NASL is in the <90% category. You argue it is in the >90% category. It's not messed up to disagree with each another Edit: I should have read page 2 before responding Anyway, I'm very happy that Jason is doing something like this. He's giving everyone a how to guide on TV production. There are a lot of simple things that people overlook if they aren't paying attention. In this case, I think it was a lot of inexperience. I mean, it's one thing to learn something on the job it's another thing to put someone in a role that they aren't necessarily qualified for. There's a lot of that in this community. Everyone wants to help out, which is great but there are certain things we shouldn't overlook. Even a consultant could have gone a long way to make sure the production was a bit more posh.
fair enough! I retract it. Obviously i'm more passionate about it but you're right. Just an emotional snap decision which wasn't thought through.
cheers!
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Hong Kong9183 Posts
You used my picture of sen! <3
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/j7Zmu.jpg)
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I think it was a fair opinion and i agree with it.
NASL needs to step up but i'm a big fan!
nice work moge!
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On January 24 2012 08:54 itsjustatank wrote:
You used my picture of sen! <3
YAY! It's a great photo. Added a speech bubble crediting you.
BTW just checked out your Flickr, you're a great event photographer.
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thanks for the hard work, gretorp
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NASTL's production is already better than s2, hope NASL s3 will continue that trend of improvements. A lot of us are rooting for NASL to succeed.
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Love this series. I think your breakdown was very fair and accurate.
And I expect NASL to continue getting better and better.
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as always, great video. my highlight for this episode were the tips regarding the red carpet situation. thanks.
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This one episode was great, totally gonna check out the rest now.
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Hong Kong9183 Posts
On January 24 2012 09:39 moge wrote:YAY! It's a great photo. Added a speech bubble crediting you. BTW just checked out your Flickr, you're a great event photographer.
Thank you very much for the compliment! I'm just starting out and as such it was a very pleasant surprise seeing that photo in your video.
Regarding your video itself, I always thought that the underexposed background behind the casters of the NASL grand finals was an intentional move on their part. I think they were trying to hedge against the ability of people situated behind the caster desk to distract viewer attention from the casters themselves, while still being able to place the casters in a physically unique position at the event itself for its live spectator audience. Whether or not it was aesthetically pleasing is another issue entirely however, and I fully agree with your suggestions on that point.
In addition, most of us who attended the event agreed that the crowd should have perhaps been encouraged to crowd around the red carpet as players made their entrances. After a day or so people finally got the idea on their own, but perhaps it could have been something solved earlier through some intervention.
Your video series as a whole has been greatly informative, please keep doing more. Might I suggest that you take a look at the recent CSL Regional LAN that was held at UC Irvine this past weekend? I feel that those guys ran an awesome tournament and stream that deserves some time in the spotlight.
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