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Jungle Shyvana is Evil. So Evil.

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Reithan
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States360 Posts
January 22 2012 08:17 GMT
#1
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LOL can be a lot of fun when you have a team that works.

Had a game, played Renekton solo top with my buddy playing jungle Shyvanna, Brand mid, Ashe & Sona bot.

Coordinating ganks in skype is so easy.
"Brand, let Malhazar push"
Shyvana kills +1
"Hey Shyv, Malphite and Ashe are pushing top hard."
Shyvana kills +1
Renekton kills +1

etc

**
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ShadowDrgn
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States2497 Posts
January 22 2012 08:21 GMT
#2
Post-game chat not full of bad manner? What is this?
Of course, you only live one life, and you make all your mistakes, and learn what not to do, and that’s the end of you.
Reithan
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States360 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-22 08:29:07
January 22 2012 08:26 GMT
#3
On January 22 2012 17:21 ShadowDrgn wrote:
Post-game chat not full of bad manner? What is this?


Freaking shocking, that's what it is.

Also, replay:
http://www.leaguereplays.com/replays/match/164660/
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Mystogun
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States392 Posts
January 22 2012 08:26 GMT
#4
Did you notice the tiamats on one of the two AD carries, on renek, and the AD malz? lol
"What I'm sayin' is that there are known knowns and there are known unknowns, but there's also unknown unknowns, things that we don't know we don't know." | SC2: NoiSe.730 | LoL: Galladiator
Reithan
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States360 Posts
January 22 2012 08:28 GMT
#5
Malz changed his items last minute - dunno why? Trolling the post-game I guess?

I've heard a lot of smack about Tiamat, but depending on your usage, it sometimes works out quite well, especially on character that have trouble with large minion waves, or with farming. Also works pretty well on some junglers.
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Thaniri
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
1264 Posts
January 22 2012 08:46 GMT
#6
Haha, I am starting to play a little bit of LoL, I play Ashe and I always get ganked by Shyvana QQ.
Hidden_MotiveS
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada2562 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-22 09:00:17
January 22 2012 08:51 GMT
#7
Yeah so much more fun to play with friends. Have you tried jungle kayle? She is fun too

I think for its cost tiamat is pretty bad as an item. It's splash is nice, but the range is so small I can't imagine it even helping much in the jungle :/ And cost for cost I think it's worse than other offensive items. It's not a terrible choice and not a game loser. Just silly

Now I'm too tryhard and I'm afraid of playing new champions until I try them vs bots because I know I'll get stomped too hard if I do.
For good reason too. Sometimes when my friends invite their friends now, and we're all on mumble or skype, you can just tell that the enemy team is doing the same thing. Their ping is the same so they're playing from the same place, and their coordination is balls scary. In fact when we're not facing an arranged team it's usually blatantly obvious and we just wreck come late game.
selboN
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States2523 Posts
January 22 2012 08:59 GMT
#8
What the fuck is that Malzahar doing? AD?
"That's what happens when you're using a mouse made out of glass!" -Tasteless (Referring to ZergBong)
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
January 22 2012 09:00 GMT
#9
Shyv is not really that good of a ganker, honestly. She's not a bad hero, but there are way better gankers than her.
J1.au
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Australia3596 Posts
January 22 2012 09:04 GMT
#10
On January 22 2012 18:00 Itsmedudeman wrote:
Shyv is not really that good of a ganker, honestly. She's not a bad hero, but there are way better gankers than her.

Yeah but they can't turn into a dragon.
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20255 Posts
January 22 2012 09:04 GMT
#11
She is very fun to play :D
Never Knows Best.
Reithan
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States360 Posts
January 22 2012 09:04 GMT
#12
I'd have to disagree on both Tiamat and Shyv as a ganker. Tiamat is dirt cheap for 50 AD, hp regen AND mana regen. The AoE is a pretty cool extra bonus, and honestly is speeds jungling up CRAZY fast for a lot of characters. Also again, characters that are all single-target and have trouble clearing a lane do well with it.

As for Shyv ganking, she's fast as hell, does self-center AoE, so you can just run along side and spam skills without worrying about auto attack if you need, and the ult knocks people around, so you can knock people into or away from turrets, towards teammates, etc. Also, as a jungler, she can grab Red for extra slow/dot.
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Vequeth
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United Kingdom1116 Posts
January 22 2012 09:20 GMT
#13
News flash, your team does well when the other team has no jungler.
Aspiring British Caster / Masters Protoss
Hidden_MotiveS
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada2562 Posts
January 22 2012 09:25 GMT
#14
HP regen and mana regen are worthless on ad carries though since ad carries generally don't need mana, and their lifesteal gives them life back much faster. It also takes up an item slot that could be filled by something more expensive and better.

The radius is pretty shit too. I mean 185 radius is 10 more than xin zhao's attack range. I think it starts at the center of the enemy too, so unless your enemies are overlapping each other, you won't hit. I've tried tiamat's. In theory they work well but in practice, if your goal is to stand up to 5 enemies and hit them, you won't. Kayle has a larger splash radius. I think she'd be able to splash a bunch of people if they were grouped up at say baron. She also has an ult to help her do it. Tiamat twitch (I think, haven't tried this) could be a counter to a deathbrush. Other than that, even if the item is good for farming, it's just going to push your lane up and cause you to get ganked by shyvana's that are higher summoner level than you are.
sob3k
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States7572 Posts
January 22 2012 09:37 GMT
#15
On January 22 2012 18:04 Reithan wrote:
I'd have to disagree on both Tiamat and Shyv as a ganker. Tiamat is dirt cheap for 50 AD, hp regen AND mana regen. The AoE is a pretty cool extra bonus, and honestly is speeds jungling up CRAZY fast for a lot of characters. Also again, characters that are all single-target and have trouble clearing a lane do well with it.

As for Shyv ganking, she's fast as hell, does self-center AoE, so you can just run along side and spam skills without worrying about auto attack if you need, and the ult knocks people around, so you can knock people into or away from turrets, towards teammates, etc. Also, as a jungler, she can grab Red for extra slow/dot.


Charts of item efficiency disagree with you.

Taimat is actually pretty much only viable on Shyvana, because in her dragon form when she double strikes it is aoe and tiamat is procced on each of those targets hit, which can be ridiculous damage if the team is stacked up.
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Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23460 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-22 13:22:38
January 22 2012 10:39 GMT
#16
Shyv isn't naturally a great ganker but she naturally jungles quickly meaning she can gank more often for the same amount of XP and also she can pretty safely invade jungle and go around behind them as well as kill their jungler or steal their jungle.
aka Teutonica
OmniEulogy
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada6600 Posts
January 22 2012 10:40 GMT
#17
Three clarities o.o were they trying to do Courage? lol
LiquidDota Staff
ramon
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany4842 Posts
January 22 2012 12:49 GMT
#18
after looking at this screen i have to say this is terrible terrible low elo, but glad you are having fun
honestly reminds me off the times when i still had fun playing LoL instead of being angry when something doesn't work out
bisu
seRapH
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9830 Posts
January 22 2012 15:16 GMT
#19
On January 22 2012 21:49 ramon wrote:
after looking at this screen i have to say this is terrible terrible low elo, but glad you are having fun
honestly reminds me off the times when i still had fun playing LoL instead of being angry when something doesn't work out

Yo clarity is legit don't hate
boomer hands
chocolatebunny
Profile Joined September 2011
301 Posts
January 22 2012 15:48 GMT
#20
On January 22 2012 18:00 Itsmedudeman wrote:
Shyv is not really that good of a ganker, honestly. She's not a bad hero, but there are way better gankers than her.


shyvana does a ton of damage, but she can't really set up ganks for her lanes like say. amumu b/c she has no hard cc (pre6)
and even when she has dragon, that's not really hard cc.
but if you pair her with someone who can set up the ganks. she can truly shine. like say with ryze or something.
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