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GhandiEAGLE
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States20754 Posts
January 03 2012 05:39 GMT
#41
I kind of agree, but I feel like tournaments that are big enough to have the prize pools they have will be able to put in the effort to find these people.
Oh, my achin' hands, from rakin' in grands, and breakin' in mic stands
exShikari
Profile Joined December 2010
Australia237 Posts
January 03 2012 09:41 GMT
#42
On January 03 2012 05:59 EternaLLegacy wrote:
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On January 03 2012 05:57 exShikari wrote:
On January 03 2012 01:24 EternaLLegacy wrote:
On January 03 2012 00:00 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
With SC2 being this professional, maphacking would be a death sentence to a player. The thought of doing it and possibly getting caught has to be a lot more scary than it was in BW. If we caught someone maphacking he would pretty much be banned from every major event for a long period of time, kicked from his team, removed from our stream section, etc.


I know you probably didn't read the whole thread, but you're missing the point. The best players aren't the ones who are going to be cheating. The pros gain little to nothing by cheating. It's high risk. Guess who the cheaters are going to be? The cheaters are going to be all the average joes who want to either say they beat 'x' pro, or want to qualify for a tournament, or in general want to ruin the game for others. It's the masses of unknowns who don't have anything to lose and don't care about being banned from tournaments who are likely to cheat. What happens when even 5% of the players in a qualifier are hacking? You're going to get a ton of pros knocked out that shouldn't be knocked out, pros won't want to play in those events because they want security that they won't lose to cheaters, and the events fail.

Obviously invitationals can avoid the problem, but then how do new players ever make it onto the scene? The last thing we want is the SC2 tournament scene to become political.


Actually a fair few recognised players in bw maphacked, until they got caught. It's not that they weren't already decent players, they just wanted to make it easier for themselves. And if something is (supposedly) undetectable and gives you an advantage, that's going to be very tempting for them. I hate them.


Yes but as people have already pointed out, in BW it wasn't like you were throwing away dozens of major tournaments and hundreds of smaller ones, as well as a monster reputation and huge stream followings. It really was a tiny scene in the foreign community back then, so players like Testie didn't give damn.


Sorry I don't get what you're saying? They hacked. They can go die. End of story.
It is, in the end, whatever the Hell I want it to be, And when I'm through with it, it's gonna blow a hole, This wide, straight through the worlds own idea of itself. They're throwing bottles at your house. Come on, lets go break their arms.
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