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On December 31 2011 23:46 brachester wrote:Show nested quote +On December 31 2011 23:41 Kukaracha wrote:On December 31 2011 23:26 ZeromuS wrote:On December 31 2011 23:21 Plexa wrote:On December 31 2011 23:19 Flippin1337 wrote:
Im guessing ur from the US?
It's funney to read a post like this, maybe it's because in Denmark where I'm from it's not seen that way. It's legal to drink at age 16 and most people begin at age 13-14. Sex is 15. Funny how much countries differ. But im still amazed of how americans react towards smoking weed etc so weird. He's from NZ, drinking age 18, sex 16. Most people begin earlier. But I'd wager our cultures are very very different. Also, with regards to the reaction to weed thing, its often cut and unpure. Sometimes, certain dealers lace their Weed with more addicting drugs like cocaine to make sure people go back to them instead of someone else when they run out. Lol how do you cut weed? I know you can add glass but it's pretty effin easy to tell that your weed is unpure. Just buy entire buds and observe what lies at the bottom of the bag. But maybe NZ potheads are more hardcore than what I know. What makes people change providers is mostly quality, quantity and sometimes the source running out, that's all. On December 31 2011 23:39 brachester wrote:On December 31 2011 23:28 Scarecrow wrote:
I don't see how a primary school student using the word 'fuck' to describe how good a tv is, is the end of the world.
You 'detest' underage drinkers? Why do your values correlate to the legal limit? What's wrong with a few beers at 17? Some people aren't wound as tight as you and want to have fun. Also you'll likely have some joking conversations about porn over the course of your life if you plan on hanging out with guys. Just try and keep an open mind, no need to despise people for not being as conservative as you.
If you're this sheltered you'd better go to a christian university and/or dorm. Regular uni dorms will probably be too much for you. alcohol in general can damage young children's brain more than adult. And since it is bad, they want to make it completely illegal to do so to be more consistent with the policy. Also children exposed to "sex" topics can be considered bad as they are 1. have no ideas about the consequences 2. they don't need to When do children become adults? What other need than just desire do you need to engage in sexual activities? I'm just saying, there have been cases childen engaged in sexual activities and hence it's completely normal for people to shelter their children from such topics when they're young to prevent any unwanted outcomes
Of course, but children protecting themselves, now that is weird.
Parents act as a mooring bitt, friends as a life-changing storm. It usually balances itself.
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Maybe im being ignorant but I hear highschool is the worst time of your life
Depends on whether or not you are attractive and charismatic. Some people say high school was the best time of their life, since there wasn't much to study (compared to higher levels of education) and it was almost entirely a social experience.
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drinking alcohol and drugs can often be just a part of growing up. You try things you haven't done before and in most cases kids learn their own limits and they become more adult. Weird comparing but you could compare it to bullying, in some cases yes, someone end up with suicide or whatnot, but the majority actually become stronger people after they have been bullied. Yeah some kids end up doing drugs for the rest of their life and drinking way too much alcohol, but I think the majority just becomes more adult and learns their own limits and they can look back upon their actions knowing its wrong. Sometimes its required for people to experience something before they know it's wrong.
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On January 01 2012 00:12 Vetrocide wrote:
drinking alcohol and drugs can often be just a part of growing up. You try things you haven't done before and in most cases kids learn their own limits and they become more adult. Weird comparing but you could compare it to bullying, in some cases yes, someone end up with suicide or whatnot, but the majority actually become stronger people after they have been bullied. Yeah some kids end up doing drugs for the rest of their life and drinking way too much alcohol, but I think the majority just becomes more adult and learns their own limits and they can look back upon their actions knowing its wrong. Sometimes its required for people to experience something before they know it's wrong.
they only need to know that drugs are bad for them and never should have tried it, bad examples
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People are baudy and bad in all walks off life at all ages. You think their grandparents weren't talking the same shit about girls and school while drinking basement moonshine? Okay, I guess I can't guarantee that but it did happen that way for a lot of people.
The key concept you must grasp is that swearing, sex, drugs and alcohol aren't inherently bad. A lot of people get brought up with certain messages, like Weed is bad, or gays are bad, or black people are bad. In reality of course, nothing's bad or good inherently and it's all about the actions taken and consequences of those actions. "That fuckin girl is fuckin hot" is fine, saying it to one of your friends. Might not be a good idea to go to a police officer and say, "Fuck you you fuckin pig" however...
I for one believe that teenagers have the capacity to party responsibly, and many do. Many don't. You should try it, before having a set mindset on it. As for having sex before a certain age, There's a miles long thread about that somewhere else in TL, to save you the reading: people have urges to have sex regardless of what society tells us, and we'll do it wherever and whenever we damn well please. Again, you can have sex responsibly, and everything will be okay. Or not.
Anyway, the point is that your concept of this "downward spiral in society" is wrong; its not like we crossed some magic line and now people act differently. From what I've gathered from my elders, people always behaved this way, at least when in good company. Maybe the difference is we just aren't discreet anymore.
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more specific; underaged drinking, drugs and sexual references.
Huh? Maybe I'm missing something, but experimenting with drugs, sex, and rock n roll alcohol has always been a part of growing up. Is it happening a little earlier? Maybe, but I don't think it's significantly different. I started cussing in the break between elementary and middle school, and tried pot and alcohol by 14 And hell, I've was talking about sex(without really understanding about it)looking at Mariah Carey when I was like 8 years old. I guess I just don't see the outrage about something that has always happened, and only became taboo in the last couple hundred years.
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You sound really, really worried about other people. Do your thing; make your money, accomplish your goals, etc etc. If the people that surround you are idiots, it doesn't really affect you, if anything it should make it easier for you to thrive and outshine them. Worry about yourself a bit!
And you don't realize it right now, but you are living a very sheletered life. Having a drink or joking about porn are such insignificant things that everyone does, they really shouldn't irk you. If its not your thing, don't do it, but quit being so judgy
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On December 31 2011 23:55 micronesia wrote:Show nested quote +On December 31 2011 23:34 IBringUFire wrote:On December 31 2011 22:47 micronesia wrote:On December 31 2011 21:24 RogerX wrote:Sexual and inappropriate references; okay this one is for the children at ELEMENTARY school. What the fuck? As a local convinent store worker I take upon a lot of elementary school students after school (Theres a school nearby) Unavoidably I hear their conversations and some of them goes like this; "Saw that hot ass chick on that other road" "YEAH" "Hey we have a fucking good tv" I can't help but want to actually hit them some manners and common sense, lol. What has the generation become? What has children become exposed to? In my generations I never knew ANYONE that knows even a single swear word, we pretty much spoke about pokemon and played basketball on the court  (Good times ^-^) I think this is true in most places. I wonder if it's the internet that's caused this. The increased communication for young children can probably greatly affect their development. No, it is not the internet. I got internet in 1997 at the age of 13, and even I had used lots of sexual innuendos in 4th grade. Thing is, I didn't quite understand the meaning, just picked it up from older kids and imitated it. Have you never heard a 10 year old call somebody else a wanker? They do here, all the time. Though I doubt they truly understand the actual meaning. It's just imitating stuff. So sorry, the internet is not to blame here :-) I don't feel like you have shown that my theory is wrong. I'm not saying no kids acted like that in 1997. I'm saying there has been a shift.
Well I didn't want to disprove you, just saying this has been there all the time. Has the internet increased the usage of curse words and sexual innuendos? I don't know and don't claim to know. Are children getting more rough in their language from generation to generation? Yes they do. Remember, even the ancient greek philosophers were musing about the decay of their youth.
When I was young my grandparents were shocked by my language, whereas to me it was quite usual to throw around "bad words" without attaching meaning to them.
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On January 01 2012 00:44 brachester wrote:Show nested quote +On January 01 2012 00:12 Vetrocide wrote:
drinking alcohol and drugs can often be just a part of growing up. You try things you haven't done before and in most cases kids learn their own limits and they become more adult. Weird comparing but you could compare it to bullying, in some cases yes, someone end up with suicide or whatnot, but the majority actually become stronger people after they have been bullied. Yeah some kids end up doing drugs for the rest of their life and drinking way too much alcohol, but I think the majority just becomes more adult and learns their own limits and they can look back upon their actions knowing its wrong. Sometimes its required for people to experience something before they know it's wrong. they only need to know that drugs are bad for them and never should have tried it, bad examples
Drugs can be fun and/or helpful, or participate in the human spiritual experience. We have been using them for milleniums.
Alcohol, nicotine, THC, morphine are all drugs, and serve different purposes in different places.
"Drugs are bad" is just a very simplistic view of the problem, much like "sex is an evil, ungodly thing" could be.
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On January 01 2012 00:44 brachester wrote:Show nested quote +On January 01 2012 00:12 Vetrocide wrote:
drinking alcohol and drugs can often be just a part of growing up. You try things you haven't done before and in most cases kids learn their own limits and they become more adult. Weird comparing but you could compare it to bullying, in some cases yes, someone end up with suicide or whatnot, but the majority actually become stronger people after they have been bullied. Yeah some kids end up doing drugs for the rest of their life and drinking way too much alcohol, but I think the majority just becomes more adult and learns their own limits and they can look back upon their actions knowing its wrong. Sometimes its required for people to experience something before they know it's wrong. they only need to know that drugs are bad for them and never should have tried it, bad examples
facepalm, some drugs arent actually that bad, weed for instance has absolutely no reason for being illegal, the main reason "drugs are bad" is due to the potential for addiction as well as adverse side effects, or hallucinogens which basically take away your sane decision making...if you follow by the legal system then drugs are horrible for you by nature and anything legal cant possibly be bad for you
legal: alcohol, tobacco, perscription drugs
alcohol and tobacco are known to cause diseases and injure who people are with their usage, they are also addictive yet they are perfectly legal, and as for perscription drugs...just read the side effects before you take anything there are some messed up side effects with some of these legal drugs :/
illegal: weed, cocaine, heroin, hallucinogens
cocaine and heroin are quite detrimental to health and are addictive, so its understandable why they are illegal, and hallucinogens cause people to act out very irrationally quite often creating a danger for themselves and others, so that makes sense
weed on the other hand does not make sense on this list, as it has been proven to be healthier than even the legal drugs such as alcohol/tobacco (im not gonna say its perfect but its nowhere near as bad esp w/the dosage difference that you take of each (you smoke more tobacco/drink more alcohol)) the main reason this is illegal is due to a stigma created by tobacco companies to get rid of competition for their product...thinking for yourself weed really isnt that bad
so, my list:
never smoke tobacco, its just bad for you
dont take perscription drugs without acknowledging how they can fuck you up
drink sparingly and not for the purpose of getting wasted (you save a TON of money this way too) also never drink&drive its retarded and you will hurt someone...
weed is fine, sadly its illegal which is an inconvenience and an annoyance, also dont hotbox its retarded
while im on laws i disagree with...fuck speed limits
edit: wow forgot cocaine, heroin, hallucinogens
stay away from shit thats either super addictive or you arent sure what it is....if you really want to try it, research into it and figure out what it is and what it can do to you before you do it also hallucinogens are fine only if you have yourself set up in a way where you cant possibly hurt anyone (in other words dont bother unless you wanna lock yourself up or something)
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On January 01 2012 01:44 unit wrote:Show nested quote +On January 01 2012 00:44 brachester wrote:On January 01 2012 00:12 Vetrocide wrote:
drinking alcohol and drugs can often be just a part of growing up. You try things you haven't done before and in most cases kids learn their own limits and they become more adult. Weird comparing but you could compare it to bullying, in some cases yes, someone end up with suicide or whatnot, but the majority actually become stronger people after they have been bullied. Yeah some kids end up doing drugs for the rest of their life and drinking way too much alcohol, but I think the majority just becomes more adult and learns their own limits and they can look back upon their actions knowing its wrong. Sometimes its required for people to experience something before they know it's wrong. they only need to know that drugs are bad for them and never should have tried it, bad examples facepalm, some drugs arent actually that bad, weed for instance has absolutely no reason for being illegal, the main reason "drugs are bad" is due to the potential for addiction as well as adverse side effects, or hallucinogens which basically take away your sane decision making...if you follow by the legal system then drugs are horrible for you by nature and anything legal cant possibly be bad for you legal: alcohol, tobacco, perscription drugs alcohol and tobacco are known to cause diseases and injure who people are with their usage, they are also addictive yet they are perfectly legal, and as for perscription drugs...just read the side effects before you take anything there are some messed up side effects with some of these legal drugs :/ illegal: weed, cocaine, heroin, hallucinogens cocaine and heroin are quite detrimental to health and are addictive, so its understandable why they are illegal, and hallucinogens cause people to act out very irrationally quite often creating a danger for themselves and others, so that makes sense weed on the other hand does not make sense on this list, as it has been proven to be healthier than even the legal drugs such as alcohol/tobacco (im not gonna say its perfect but its nowhere near as bad esp w/the dosage difference that you take of each (you smoke more tobacco/drink more alcohol)) the main reason this is illegal is due to a stigma created by tobacco companies to get rid of competition for their product...thinking for yourself weed really isnt that bad so, my list: never smoke tobacco, its just bad for you dont take perscription drugs without acknowledging how they can fuck you up drink sparingly and not for the purpose of getting wasted (you save a TON of money this way too) also never drink&drive its retarded and you will hurt someone... weed is fine, sadly its illegal which is an inconvenience and an annoyance, also dont hotbox its retarded while im on laws i disagree with...fuck speed limits edit: wow forgot cocaine, heroin, hallucinogens stay away from shit thats either super addictive or you arent sure what it is....if you really want to try it, research into it and figure out what it is and what it can do to you before you do it also hallucinogens are fine only if you have yourself set up in a way where you cant possibly hurt anyone (in other words dont bother unless you wanna lock yourself up or something)
i was only referrring to the drugs that have bad effects on your health, if they're livng fine as they are, they prob don't need to know about the existence of drugs
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On January 01 2012 01:49 brachester wrote:Show nested quote +On January 01 2012 01:44 unit wrote:On January 01 2012 00:44 brachester wrote:On January 01 2012 00:12 Vetrocide wrote:
drinking alcohol and drugs can often be just a part of growing up. You try things you haven't done before and in most cases kids learn their own limits and they become more adult. Weird comparing but you could compare it to bullying, in some cases yes, someone end up with suicide or whatnot, but the majority actually become stronger people after they have been bullied. Yeah some kids end up doing drugs for the rest of their life and drinking way too much alcohol, but I think the majority just becomes more adult and learns their own limits and they can look back upon their actions knowing its wrong. Sometimes its required for people to experience something before they know it's wrong. they only need to know that drugs are bad for them and never should have tried it, bad examples facepalm, some drugs arent actually that bad, weed for instance has absolutely no reason for being illegal, the main reason "drugs are bad" is due to the potential for addiction as well as adverse side effects, or hallucinogens which basically take away your sane decision making...if you follow by the legal system then drugs are horrible for you by nature and anything legal cant possibly be bad for you legal: alcohol, tobacco, perscription drugs alcohol and tobacco are known to cause diseases and injure who people are with their usage, they are also addictive yet they are perfectly legal, and as for perscription drugs...just read the side effects before you take anything there are some messed up side effects with some of these legal drugs :/ illegal: weed, cocaine, heroin, hallucinogens cocaine and heroin are quite detrimental to health and are addictive, so its understandable why they are illegal, and hallucinogens cause people to act out very irrationally quite often creating a danger for themselves and others, so that makes sense weed on the other hand does not make sense on this list, as it has been proven to be healthier than even the legal drugs such as alcohol/tobacco (im not gonna say its perfect but its nowhere near as bad esp w/the dosage difference that you take of each (you smoke more tobacco/drink more alcohol)) the main reason this is illegal is due to a stigma created by tobacco companies to get rid of competition for their product...thinking for yourself weed really isnt that bad so, my list: never smoke tobacco, its just bad for you dont take perscription drugs without acknowledging how they can fuck you up drink sparingly and not for the purpose of getting wasted (you save a TON of money this way too) also never drink&drive its retarded and you will hurt someone... weed is fine, sadly its illegal which is an inconvenience and an annoyance, also dont hotbox its retarded while im on laws i disagree with...fuck speed limits edit: wow forgot cocaine, heroin, hallucinogens stay away from shit thats either super addictive or you arent sure what it is....if you really want to try it, research into it and figure out what it is and what it can do to you before you do it also hallucinogens are fine only if you have yourself set up in a way where you cant possibly hurt anyone (in other words dont bother unless you wanna lock yourself up or something) i was only referrring to the drugs that have bad effects on your health, if they're livng fine as they are, they prob don't need to know about the existence of drugs
i can see your point now before i thought it was purely "law abiding citizen" approach, but this is the same with numerous things other than drugs, ignorance truly is bliss sometimes
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In my 17yr old experience. People drink because it's the culture, everybody does it. Why not yourself? I myself don't drink. The negative effects off alcohol are really a turn-off for me. I'm not going to slow down the growth of my brain so I can drink stuff I hate the taste from. Nobody from my friends care that I don't drink even tho they all do, but I have pretty mature friends. Also I don't see why it makes going out any more fun, but maybe a drinker can enlighten me why it is ^^
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I totally agree with this. Our generation is such shit imo
I suspect it to be the fault of the media/music etc. but it's really hard to tell. Hell, if you listen to pop music it's all about having sex, drugs, partying and drinking, honestly...WTF? That seems to be the biggest influence that I can find.
As for talking about porn and such; I think our culture has become a lot more open and as a result its becoming socially acceptable to talk about those things once taboo.
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Ah, the neverending illusion that "we" are special: especially good, or especially bad.
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On January 01 2012 01:01 Pawsom wrote:
You sound really, really worried about other people. Do your thing; make your money, accomplish your goals, etc etc. If the people that surround you are idiots, it doesn't really affect you, if anything it should make it easier for you to thrive and outshine them. Worry about yourself a bit!
And you don't realize it right now, but you are living a very sheletered life. Having a drink or joking about porn are such insignificant things that everyone does, they really shouldn't irk you. If its not your thing, don't do it, but quit being so judgy
this, dude. You are only hearing bits and pieces of other people's conversations and judging them for it.
Just remember the only thing that never gets old, matter how old you are: judging the world by an arbitrary set of values because it's the only way to see yourself as a winner.
Go easy on other people, don't drag a whole generation down because of people you barely know.
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On January 01 2012 00:44 brachester wrote:Show nested quote +On January 01 2012 00:12 Vetrocide wrote:
drinking alcohol and drugs can often be just a part of growing up. You try things you haven't done before and in most cases kids learn their own limits and they become more adult. Weird comparing but you could compare it to bullying, in some cases yes, someone end up with suicide or whatnot, but the majority actually become stronger people after they have been bullied. Yeah some kids end up doing drugs for the rest of their life and drinking way too much alcohol, but I think the majority just becomes more adult and learns their own limits and they can look back upon their actions knowing its wrong. Sometimes its required for people to experience something before they know it's wrong. they only need to know that drugs are bad for them and never should have tried it, bad examples
cause you're one-liner response with with good examples is so constructive
as i said, some kids need to try it out to know its bad for them. telling a kid ''do not do drugs'' can often lead kids to want to try drugs even more becomes they know it's not allowed.
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Think you're hanging out the wrong crowd. What's great about university is that you can surround yourself with people like you and not have to deal with the rest.
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On December 31 2011 21:24 RogerX wrote:Title is really stupid lol; should be something more like students and their negative behavior or something like that (Someone suggest me a better title, head dead its 1 in the morning  )Hey guys; sorry for writing a depressing blog on new years (For NZ, YEAH FELLOW KIWIS; HAPPY NEW YEARS) but this has been on my mind so much recently as a high school student, i've had this topic haunt me for months now. (Not sure if this belongs in blogs) This blog will be short. So i'm 17 years old and I want to discuss the negative things that majority of students that I know in my school are doing, to be more specific; underaged drinking, drugs and sexual references. I'll write my personal feelings and thoughts for each one. I'm sorry if anyone got offended for this this is just my personal opinions. This is a rant (Warning)After my first year of college, I have started to recognise that people were drinking alcohol. (This is at 14 years old) How is this possible? What kind of unresponsible parents/store clerks sell these things to teenagers? I just don't understand it. There are few negative effects of drinking and drinking at a young age its just worse (Drink driving, irresponsible behavior towards others and their environment, and maybe even breaking a few laws) I want to know the psychological explanation onto why teenagers are doing this. I know that smoking used to be the "cool" thing back then so has that been changed to alcohol? It doesn't even taste that good at this age. And I seem to detest anyone drinking as a teenager (Less than the legal age limit) without clear explanations. Another one are drugs and smoking. Okay, this one I kind of understand; maybe its to release stress? I'm actually really not sure about this one. Okay, actually; i'll say its okay for weed although I will never do it as there is no proven real consequence to it. Smoking though... Why? This is worse than beer, this literally shortens your life and puts you at a risk of even getting cancer. Sexual and inappropriate references; okay this one is for the children at ELEMENTARY school. What the fuck? As a local convinent store worker I take upon a lot of elementary school students after school (Theres a school nearby) Unavoidably I hear their conversations and some of them goes like this; "Saw that hot ass chick on that other road" "YEAH" "Hey we have a fucking good tv" I can't help but want to actually hit them some manners and common sense, lol. What has the generation become? What has children become exposed to? In my generations I never knew ANYONE that knows even a single swear word, we pretty much spoke about pokemon and played basketball on the court (Good times ^-^) One thats really weird is that some of my peers and im sure other students as well talks about porn. What? Its just embarrassing to even listen to and in my life I will never ever discuss the issue. As a parent for some of you, are you aware of your children doing this and how do you feel about them? We are the future, but are we being guided wrongly? Sigh sorry guys; I just wanted to clear some of this out of my head. Changelog + Show Spoiler +None yet, no real edits or proofread done because I lazy
You're too tightly wound. You'll end up hating everybody for every little thing if you keep this attitude up. You don't even have your facts right either. Weed is by far the worst drug to be taking at that age (out of alcohol, weed and nicotine) since it is known to hinder the development of the brain to some degree. Nicotine is pointless, and alcohol can be positive or negative depending on how you treat it.
Teenage guys are horny. The ones that don't look at porn are still masturbating and the ones that don't talk about good looking girls are still thinking it. Maybe you don't masturbate (yet), but you sure as hell look at girls and assess their looks. It's impossible not to.
Swear words are just words. Language is constantly evolving and as a result of that the acceptability of certain words will change too. Some of the words you use which you think are okay were probably unacceptable 50 or 100 years ago.
Most of this stuff you will either learn to accept or you'll continue avoiding, but even if you do avoid it just be aware that the fact that a person enjoys an activity which you don't, or says things which you wouldn't doesn't make that person bad. They're just different. A lot of the teachers at your school probably drank, swore and smoked at some point. Yet here they are, decades later and extremely valuable members of society.
Long story short, loosen up man.
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