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Title is really stupid lol; should be something more like students and their negative behavior or something like that (Someone suggest me a better title, head dead its 1 in the morning )
Hey guys; sorry for writing a depressing blog on new years (For NZ, YEAH FELLOW KIWIS; HAPPY NEW YEARS) but this has been on my mind so much recently as a high school student, i've had this topic haunt me for months now. (Not sure if this belongs in blogs) This blog will be short.
So i'm 17 years old and I want to discuss the negative things that majority of students that I know in my school are doing, to be more specific; underaged drinking, drugs and sexual references. I'll write my personal feelings and thoughts for each one. I'm sorry if anyone got offended for this this is just my personal opinions.
This is a rant (Warning)
After my first year of college, I have started to recognise that people were drinking alcohol. (This is at 14 years old) How is this possible? What kind of unresponsible parents/store clerks sell these things to teenagers? I just don't understand it. There are few negative effects of drinking and drinking at a young age its just worse (Drink driving, irresponsible behavior towards others and their environment, and maybe even breaking a few laws) I want to know the psychological explanation onto why teenagers are doing this. I know that smoking used to be the "cool" thing back then so has that been changed to alcohol? It doesn't even taste that good at this age. And I seem to detest anyone drinking as a teenager (Less than the legal age limit) without clear explanations.
Another one are drugs and smoking. Okay, this one I kind of understand; maybe its to release stress? I'm actually really not sure about this one. Okay, actually; i'll say its okay for weed although I will never do it as there is no proven real consequence to it. Smoking though... Why? This is worse than beer, this literally shortens your life and puts you at a risk of even getting cancer.
Sexual and inappropriate references; okay this one is for the children at ELEMENTARY school. What the fuck? As a local convinent store worker I take upon a lot of elementary school students after school (Theres a school nearby) Unavoidably I hear their conversations and some of them goes like this;
"Saw that hot ass chick on that other road" "YEAH" "Hey we have a fucking good tv"
I can't help but want to actually hit them some manners and common sense, lol. What has the generation become? What has children become exposed to? In my generations I never knew ANYONE that knows even a single swear word, we pretty much spoke about pokemon and played basketball on the court (Good times ^-^)
One thats really weird is that some of my peers and im sure other students as well talks about porn. What? Its just embarrassing to even listen to and in my life I will never ever discuss the issue.
As a parent for some of you, are you aware of your children doing this and how do you feel about them?
We are the future, but are we being guided wrongly?
Sigh sorry guys; I just wanted to clear some of this out of my head.
Changelog + Show Spoiler +None yet, no real edits or proofread done because I lazy
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Aotearoa39261 Posts
Whatever man, it's highschool. Wait until you graduate and you meet people worth knowing.
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On December 31 2011 21:35 Plexa wrote: Whatever man, it's highschool. Wait until you graduate and you meet people worth knowing. I can't wait seriously, highschool is really crap lol.
Maybe im being ignorant but I hear highschool is the worst time of your life
On December 31 2011 21:29 AMaidensWrath wrote: O tempora, o mores!
Exactly
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ALLEYCAT BLUES48984 Posts
On December 31 2011 21:35 Plexa wrote: Whatever man, it's highschool. Wait until you graduate and you meet people worth knowing.
I've always believed this to be false, so glad I'm wrong though.
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On December 31 2011 22:01 BLinD-RawR wrote:Show nested quote +On December 31 2011 21:35 Plexa wrote: Whatever man, it's highschool. Wait until you graduate and you meet people worth knowing. I've always believed this to be false, so glad I'm wrong though. Well it's possible to be false, I've met equally many good people in HS as I have done University - but I also met a ton more douchebags in HS than University and given how HS operates, I couldn't avoid them like I can at uni.
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On December 31 2011 22:09 Plexa wrote:Show nested quote +On December 31 2011 22:01 BLinD-RawR wrote:On December 31 2011 21:35 Plexa wrote: Whatever man, it's highschool. Wait until you graduate and you meet people worth knowing. I've always believed this to be false, so glad I'm wrong though. Well it's possible to be false, I've met equally many good people in HS as I have done University - but I also met a ton more douchebags in HS than University and given how HS operates, I couldn't avoid them like I can at uni. can't wait for uni next year XD
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On December 31 2011 21:24 RogerX wrote:Sexual and inappropriate references; okay this one is for the children at ELEMENTARY school. What the fuck? As a local convinent store worker I take upon a lot of elementary school students after school (Theres a school nearby) Unavoidably I hear their conversations and some of them goes like this; "Saw that hot ass chick on that other road" "YEAH" "Hey we have a fucking good tv" I can't help but want to actually hit them some manners and common sense, lol. What has the generation become? What has children become exposed to? In my generations I never knew ANYONE that knows even a single swear word, we pretty much spoke about pokemon and played basketball on the court (Good times ^-^) I think this is true in most places. I wonder if it's the internet that's caused this. The increased communication for young children can probably greatly affect their development.
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Hum, I think I can answer to all your questions: people have fun.
I have great memories from drunken or high times with friends. Great memories from Salvia sessions (done in a responsible setting, don't worry). I also regret not going through young sexual experimentations, as this is a good time to explore. When you're older, things are kind of figured out (atleast to some extent), and a certain behaviour is expected from you.
Sure, some people are irresponsible, but I feel that it is very irresponsible to live a sheltered early life as it does not prepare you for what comes next. : )
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Im guessing ur from the US?
It's funney to read a post like this, maybe it's because in Denmark where I'm from it's not seen that way. It's legal to drink at age 16 and most people begin at age 13-14. Sex is 15. Funny how much countries differ. But im still amazed of how americans react towards smoking weed etc so weird.
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On December 31 2011 23:19 Flippin1337 wrote: Im guessing ur from the US?
It's funney to read a post like this, maybe it's because in Denmark where I'm from it's not seen that way. It's legal to drink at age 16 and most people begin at age 13-14. Sex is 15. Funny how much countries differ. But im still amazed of how americans react towards smoking weed etc so weird. He's from NZ, drinking age 18, sex 16. Most people begin earlier. But I'd wager our cultures are very very different.
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On December 31 2011 23:21 Plexa wrote:Show nested quote +On December 31 2011 23:19 Flippin1337 wrote: Im guessing ur from the US?
It's funney to read a post like this, maybe it's because in Denmark where I'm from it's not seen that way. It's legal to drink at age 16 and most people begin at age 13-14. Sex is 15. Funny how much countries differ. But im still amazed of how americans react towards smoking weed etc so weird. He's from NZ, drinking age 18, sex 16. Most people begin earlier. But I'd wager our cultures are very very different.
Also, with regards to the reaction to weed thing, its often cut and unpure. Sometimes, certain dealers lace their Weed with more addicting drugs like cocaine to make sure people go back to them instead of someone else when they run out.
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I don't see how a primary school student using the word 'fuck' to describe how good a tv is, is the end of the world.
You 'detest' underage drinkers? Why do your values correlate to the legal limit? What's wrong with a few beers at 17? Some people aren't wound as tight as you and want to have fun. Also you'll likely have some joking conversations about porn over the course of your life if you plan on hanging out with guys. Just try and keep an open mind, no need to despise people for not being as conservative as you.
If you're this sheltered you'd better go to a christian university and/or dorm. Regular uni dorms will probably be too much for you.
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Not sure what the big deal is to be honest. If people want to intoxicate themselves with drugs or whatever then so be it. Not for you to worry.
Personally I have drunk since I was about 14. Obviously not as much as I do now (18) but I drank the occasional drink when I could (everyone remembers the times of WKD and Smirnoff Ice haha). Saying that I only really started drinking properly when I was 16 (houseparties etc). The reason why I drunk was the same reason I still drink, for a sense of enjoyment, the social aspect and ofc at that age the "taboo effect" made it more interesting and funny.
Smoking, personally I don't smoke cigs but most of the people I know either do smoke or are social smokers. Ofc once they start smoking they continue due to addiction, however I think most people start because of the social aspect. Say you go to a club, its easier to chat to someone in the smoking area than the dance floor for example. I guess also people start because of the same reasons as to why I drink.
Anyhow, I am not defending these actions just saying that you shouldn't get angry/annoyed by it. At the end of the day its their lives, let them do what they want and you focus on doing what you want.
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On December 31 2011 22:47 micronesia wrote:Show nested quote +On December 31 2011 21:24 RogerX wrote:Sexual and inappropriate references; okay this one is for the children at ELEMENTARY school. What the fuck? As a local convinent store worker I take upon a lot of elementary school students after school (Theres a school nearby) Unavoidably I hear their conversations and some of them goes like this; "Saw that hot ass chick on that other road" "YEAH" "Hey we have a fucking good tv" I can't help but want to actually hit them some manners and common sense, lol. What has the generation become? What has children become exposed to? In my generations I never knew ANYONE that knows even a single swear word, we pretty much spoke about pokemon and played basketball on the court (Good times ^-^) I think this is true in most places. I wonder if it's the internet that's caused this. The increased communication for young children can probably greatly affect their development.
No, it is not the internet. I got internet in 1997 at the age of 13, and even I had used lots of sexual innuendos in 4th grade. Thing is, I didn't quite understand the meaning, just picked it up from older kids and imitated it. Have you never heard a 10 year old call somebody else a wanker? They do here, all the time. Though I doubt they truly understand the actual meaning. It's just imitating stuff.
So sorry, the internet is not to blame here :-)
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On December 31 2011 23:28 Scarecrow wrote: I don't see how a primary school student using the word 'fuck' to describe how good a tv is, is the end of the world.
You 'detest' underage drinkers? Why do your values correlate to the legal limit? What's wrong with a few beers at 17? Some people aren't wound as tight as you and want to have fun. Also you'll likely have some joking conversations about porn over the course of your life if you plan on hanging out with guys. Just try and keep an open mind, no need to despise people for not being as conservative as you.
If you're this sheltered you'd better go to a christian university and/or dorm. Regular uni dorms will probably be too much for you. alcohol in general can damage young children's brain more than adult. And since it is bad, they want to make it completely illegal to do so to be more consistent with the policy. Also children exposed to "sex" topics can be considered bad as they are 1. have no ideas about the consequences 2. they don't need to. And saying fuck shows two things about those elementary children 1. Low intelligence (low vocabulary) 2. Bad Manner --> Bad parents
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On December 31 2011 23:26 ZeromuS wrote:Show nested quote +On December 31 2011 23:21 Plexa wrote:On December 31 2011 23:19 Flippin1337 wrote: Im guessing ur from the US?
It's funney to read a post like this, maybe it's because in Denmark where I'm from it's not seen that way. It's legal to drink at age 16 and most people begin at age 13-14. Sex is 15. Funny how much countries differ. But im still amazed of how americans react towards smoking weed etc so weird. He's from NZ, drinking age 18, sex 16. Most people begin earlier. But I'd wager our cultures are very very different. Also, with regards to the reaction to weed thing, its often cut and unpure. Sometimes, certain dealers lace their Weed with more addicting drugs like cocaine to make sure people go back to them instead of someone else when they run out.
Lol how do you cut weed? I know you can add glass but it's pretty effin easy to tell that your weed is unpure. Just buy entire buds and observe what lies at the bottom of the bag. But maybe NZ potheads are more hardcore than what I know.
What makes people change providers is mostly quality, quantity and sometimes the source running out, that's all.
On December 31 2011 23:39 brachester wrote:Show nested quote +On December 31 2011 23:28 Scarecrow wrote: I don't see how a primary school student using the word 'fuck' to describe how good a tv is, is the end of the world.
You 'detest' underage drinkers? Why do your values correlate to the legal limit? What's wrong with a few beers at 17? Some people aren't wound as tight as you and want to have fun. Also you'll likely have some joking conversations about porn over the course of your life if you plan on hanging out with guys. Just try and keep an open mind, no need to despise people for not being as conservative as you.
If you're this sheltered you'd better go to a christian university and/or dorm. Regular uni dorms will probably be too much for you. alcohol in general can damage young children's brain more than adult. And since it is bad, they want to make it completely illegal to do so to be more consistent with the policy. Also children exposed to "sex" topics can be considered bad as they are 1. have no ideas about the consequences 2. they don't need to
When do children become adults? What other need than just desire do you need to engage in sexual activities?
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On December 31 2011 23:41 Kukaracha wrote:Show nested quote +On December 31 2011 23:26 ZeromuS wrote:On December 31 2011 23:21 Plexa wrote:On December 31 2011 23:19 Flippin1337 wrote: Im guessing ur from the US?
It's funney to read a post like this, maybe it's because in Denmark where I'm from it's not seen that way. It's legal to drink at age 16 and most people begin at age 13-14. Sex is 15. Funny how much countries differ. But im still amazed of how americans react towards smoking weed etc so weird. He's from NZ, drinking age 18, sex 16. Most people begin earlier. But I'd wager our cultures are very very different. Also, with regards to the reaction to weed thing, its often cut and unpure. Sometimes, certain dealers lace their Weed with more addicting drugs like cocaine to make sure people go back to them instead of someone else when they run out. Lol how do you cut weed? I know you can add glass but it's pretty effin easy to tell that your weed is unpure. Just buy entire buds and observe what lies at the bottom of the bag. But maybe NZ potheads are more hardcore than what I know. What makes people change providers is mostly quality, quantity and sometimes the source running out, that's all. Show nested quote +On December 31 2011 23:39 brachester wrote:On December 31 2011 23:28 Scarecrow wrote: I don't see how a primary school student using the word 'fuck' to describe how good a tv is, is the end of the world.
You 'detest' underage drinkers? Why do your values correlate to the legal limit? What's wrong with a few beers at 17? Some people aren't wound as tight as you and want to have fun. Also you'll likely have some joking conversations about porn over the course of your life if you plan on hanging out with guys. Just try and keep an open mind, no need to despise people for not being as conservative as you.
If you're this sheltered you'd better go to a christian university and/or dorm. Regular uni dorms will probably be too much for you. alcohol in general can damage young children's brain more than adult. And since it is bad, they want to make it completely illegal to do so to be more consistent with the policy. Also children exposed to "sex" topics can be considered bad as they are 1. have no ideas about the consequences 2. they don't need to When do children become adults? What other need than just desire do you need to engage in sexual activities? I'm just saying, there have been cases childen engaged in sexual activities and hence it's completely normal for people to shelter their children from such topics when they're young to prevent any unwanted outcomes
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On December 31 2011 23:34 IBringUFire wrote:Show nested quote +On December 31 2011 22:47 micronesia wrote:On December 31 2011 21:24 RogerX wrote:Sexual and inappropriate references; okay this one is for the children at ELEMENTARY school. What the fuck? As a local convinent store worker I take upon a lot of elementary school students after school (Theres a school nearby) Unavoidably I hear their conversations and some of them goes like this; "Saw that hot ass chick on that other road" "YEAH" "Hey we have a fucking good tv" I can't help but want to actually hit them some manners and common sense, lol. What has the generation become? What has children become exposed to? In my generations I never knew ANYONE that knows even a single swear word, we pretty much spoke about pokemon and played basketball on the court (Good times ^-^) I think this is true in most places. I wonder if it's the internet that's caused this. The increased communication for young children can probably greatly affect their development. No, it is not the internet. I got internet in 1997 at the age of 13, and even I had used lots of sexual innuendos in 4th grade. Thing is, I didn't quite understand the meaning, just picked it up from older kids and imitated it. Have you never heard a 10 year old call somebody else a wanker? They do here, all the time. Though I doubt they truly understand the actual meaning. It's just imitating stuff. So sorry, the internet is not to blame here :-) I don't feel like you have shown that my theory is wrong. I'm not saying no kids acted like that in 1997. I'm saying there has been a shift.
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On December 31 2011 23:46 brachester wrote:Show nested quote +On December 31 2011 23:41 Kukaracha wrote:On December 31 2011 23:26 ZeromuS wrote:On December 31 2011 23:21 Plexa wrote:On December 31 2011 23:19 Flippin1337 wrote: Im guessing ur from the US?
It's funney to read a post like this, maybe it's because in Denmark where I'm from it's not seen that way. It's legal to drink at age 16 and most people begin at age 13-14. Sex is 15. Funny how much countries differ. But im still amazed of how americans react towards smoking weed etc so weird. He's from NZ, drinking age 18, sex 16. Most people begin earlier. But I'd wager our cultures are very very different. Also, with regards to the reaction to weed thing, its often cut and unpure. Sometimes, certain dealers lace their Weed with more addicting drugs like cocaine to make sure people go back to them instead of someone else when they run out. Lol how do you cut weed? I know you can add glass but it's pretty effin easy to tell that your weed is unpure. Just buy entire buds and observe what lies at the bottom of the bag. But maybe NZ potheads are more hardcore than what I know. What makes people change providers is mostly quality, quantity and sometimes the source running out, that's all. On December 31 2011 23:39 brachester wrote:On December 31 2011 23:28 Scarecrow wrote: I don't see how a primary school student using the word 'fuck' to describe how good a tv is, is the end of the world.
You 'detest' underage drinkers? Why do your values correlate to the legal limit? What's wrong with a few beers at 17? Some people aren't wound as tight as you and want to have fun. Also you'll likely have some joking conversations about porn over the course of your life if you plan on hanging out with guys. Just try and keep an open mind, no need to despise people for not being as conservative as you.
If you're this sheltered you'd better go to a christian university and/or dorm. Regular uni dorms will probably be too much for you. alcohol in general can damage young children's brain more than adult. And since it is bad, they want to make it completely illegal to do so to be more consistent with the policy. Also children exposed to "sex" topics can be considered bad as they are 1. have no ideas about the consequences 2. they don't need to When do children become adults? What other need than just desire do you need to engage in sexual activities? I'm just saying, there have been cases childen engaged in sexual activities and hence it's completely normal for people to shelter their children from such topics when they're young to prevent any unwanted outcomes
Of course, but children protecting themselves, now that is weird. Parents act as a mooring bitt, friends as a life-changing storm. It usually balances itself.
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Maybe im being ignorant but I hear highschool is the worst time of your life
Depends on whether or not you are attractive and charismatic. Some people say high school was the best time of their life, since there wasn't much to study (compared to higher levels of education) and it was almost entirely a social experience.
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drinking alcohol and drugs can often be just a part of growing up. You try things you haven't done before and in most cases kids learn their own limits and they become more adult. Weird comparing but you could compare it to bullying, in some cases yes, someone end up with suicide or whatnot, but the majority actually become stronger people after they have been bullied. Yeah some kids end up doing drugs for the rest of their life and drinking way too much alcohol, but I think the majority just becomes more adult and learns their own limits and they can look back upon their actions knowing its wrong. Sometimes its required for people to experience something before they know it's wrong.
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On January 01 2012 00:12 Vetrocide wrote: drinking alcohol and drugs can often be just a part of growing up. You try things you haven't done before and in most cases kids learn their own limits and they become more adult. Weird comparing but you could compare it to bullying, in some cases yes, someone end up with suicide or whatnot, but the majority actually become stronger people after they have been bullied. Yeah some kids end up doing drugs for the rest of their life and drinking way too much alcohol, but I think the majority just becomes more adult and learns their own limits and they can look back upon their actions knowing its wrong. Sometimes its required for people to experience something before they know it's wrong. they only need to know that drugs are bad for them and never should have tried it, bad examples
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People are baudy and bad in all walks off life at all ages. You think their grandparents weren't talking the same shit about girls and school while drinking basement moonshine? Okay, I guess I can't guarantee that but it did happen that way for a lot of people.
The key concept you must grasp is that swearing, sex, drugs and alcohol aren't inherently bad. A lot of people get brought up with certain messages, like Weed is bad, or gays are bad, or black people are bad. In reality of course, nothing's bad or good inherently and it's all about the actions taken and consequences of those actions. "That fuckin girl is fuckin hot" is fine, saying it to one of your friends. Might not be a good idea to go to a police officer and say, "Fuck you you fuckin pig" however...
I for one believe that teenagers have the capacity to party responsibly, and many do. Many don't. You should try it, before having a set mindset on it. As for having sex before a certain age, There's a miles long thread about that somewhere else in TL, to save you the reading: people have urges to have sex regardless of what society tells us, and we'll do it wherever and whenever we damn well please. Again, you can have sex responsibly, and everything will be okay. Or not.
Anyway, the point is that your concept of this "downward spiral in society" is wrong; its not like we crossed some magic line and now people act differently. From what I've gathered from my elders, people always behaved this way, at least when in good company. Maybe the difference is we just aren't discreet anymore.
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more specific; underaged drinking, drugs and sexual references. Huh? Maybe I'm missing something, but experimenting with drugs, sex, and rock n roll alcohol has always been a part of growing up. Is it happening a little earlier? Maybe, but I don't think it's significantly different. I started cussing in the break between elementary and middle school, and tried pot and alcohol by 14 And hell, I've was talking about sex(without really understanding about it)looking at Mariah Carey when I was like 8 years old. I guess I just don't see the outrage about something that has always happened, and only became taboo in the last couple hundred years.
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You sound really, really worried about other people. Do your thing; make your money, accomplish your goals, etc etc. If the people that surround you are idiots, it doesn't really affect you, if anything it should make it easier for you to thrive and outshine them. Worry about yourself a bit!
And you don't realize it right now, but you are living a very sheletered life. Having a drink or joking about porn are such insignificant things that everyone does, they really shouldn't irk you. If its not your thing, don't do it, but quit being so judgy
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On December 31 2011 23:55 micronesia wrote:Show nested quote +On December 31 2011 23:34 IBringUFire wrote:On December 31 2011 22:47 micronesia wrote:On December 31 2011 21:24 RogerX wrote:Sexual and inappropriate references; okay this one is for the children at ELEMENTARY school. What the fuck? As a local convinent store worker I take upon a lot of elementary school students after school (Theres a school nearby) Unavoidably I hear their conversations and some of them goes like this; "Saw that hot ass chick on that other road" "YEAH" "Hey we have a fucking good tv" I can't help but want to actually hit them some manners and common sense, lol. What has the generation become? What has children become exposed to? In my generations I never knew ANYONE that knows even a single swear word, we pretty much spoke about pokemon and played basketball on the court (Good times ^-^) I think this is true in most places. I wonder if it's the internet that's caused this. The increased communication for young children can probably greatly affect their development. No, it is not the internet. I got internet in 1997 at the age of 13, and even I had used lots of sexual innuendos in 4th grade. Thing is, I didn't quite understand the meaning, just picked it up from older kids and imitated it. Have you never heard a 10 year old call somebody else a wanker? They do here, all the time. Though I doubt they truly understand the actual meaning. It's just imitating stuff. So sorry, the internet is not to blame here :-) I don't feel like you have shown that my theory is wrong. I'm not saying no kids acted like that in 1997. I'm saying there has been a shift.
Well I didn't want to disprove you, just saying this has been there all the time. Has the internet increased the usage of curse words and sexual innuendos? I don't know and don't claim to know. Are children getting more rough in their language from generation to generation? Yes they do. Remember, even the ancient greek philosophers were musing about the decay of their youth.
When I was young my grandparents were shocked by my language, whereas to me it was quite usual to throw around "bad words" without attaching meaning to them.
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On January 01 2012 00:44 brachester wrote:Show nested quote +On January 01 2012 00:12 Vetrocide wrote: drinking alcohol and drugs can often be just a part of growing up. You try things you haven't done before and in most cases kids learn their own limits and they become more adult. Weird comparing but you could compare it to bullying, in some cases yes, someone end up with suicide or whatnot, but the majority actually become stronger people after they have been bullied. Yeah some kids end up doing drugs for the rest of their life and drinking way too much alcohol, but I think the majority just becomes more adult and learns their own limits and they can look back upon their actions knowing its wrong. Sometimes its required for people to experience something before they know it's wrong. they only need to know that drugs are bad for them and never should have tried it, bad examples
Drugs can be fun and/or helpful, or participate in the human spiritual experience. We have been using them for milleniums. Alcohol, nicotine, THC, morphine are all drugs, and serve different purposes in different places.
"Drugs are bad" is just a very simplistic view of the problem, much like "sex is an evil, ungodly thing" could be.
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On January 01 2012 00:44 brachester wrote:Show nested quote +On January 01 2012 00:12 Vetrocide wrote: drinking alcohol and drugs can often be just a part of growing up. You try things you haven't done before and in most cases kids learn their own limits and they become more adult. Weird comparing but you could compare it to bullying, in some cases yes, someone end up with suicide or whatnot, but the majority actually become stronger people after they have been bullied. Yeah some kids end up doing drugs for the rest of their life and drinking way too much alcohol, but I think the majority just becomes more adult and learns their own limits and they can look back upon their actions knowing its wrong. Sometimes its required for people to experience something before they know it's wrong. they only need to know that drugs are bad for them and never should have tried it, bad examples facepalm, some drugs arent actually that bad, weed for instance has absolutely no reason for being illegal, the main reason "drugs are bad" is due to the potential for addiction as well as adverse side effects, or hallucinogens which basically take away your sane decision making...if you follow by the legal system then drugs are horrible for you by nature and anything legal cant possibly be bad for you
legal: alcohol, tobacco, perscription drugs alcohol and tobacco are known to cause diseases and injure who people are with their usage, they are also addictive yet they are perfectly legal, and as for perscription drugs...just read the side effects before you take anything there are some messed up side effects with some of these legal drugs :/
illegal: weed, cocaine, heroin, hallucinogens cocaine and heroin are quite detrimental to health and are addictive, so its understandable why they are illegal, and hallucinogens cause people to act out very irrationally quite often creating a danger for themselves and others, so that makes sense
weed on the other hand does not make sense on this list, as it has been proven to be healthier than even the legal drugs such as alcohol/tobacco (im not gonna say its perfect but its nowhere near as bad esp w/the dosage difference that you take of each (you smoke more tobacco/drink more alcohol)) the main reason this is illegal is due to a stigma created by tobacco companies to get rid of competition for their product...thinking for yourself weed really isnt that bad
so, my list: never smoke tobacco, its just bad for you dont take perscription drugs without acknowledging how they can fuck you up drink sparingly and not for the purpose of getting wasted (you save a TON of money this way too) also never drink&drive its retarded and you will hurt someone... weed is fine, sadly its illegal which is an inconvenience and an annoyance, also dont hotbox its retarded
while im on laws i disagree with...fuck speed limits
edit: wow forgot cocaine, heroin, hallucinogens stay away from shit thats either super addictive or you arent sure what it is....if you really want to try it, research into it and figure out what it is and what it can do to you before you do it also hallucinogens are fine only if you have yourself set up in a way where you cant possibly hurt anyone (in other words dont bother unless you wanna lock yourself up or something)
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On January 01 2012 01:44 unit wrote:Show nested quote +On January 01 2012 00:44 brachester wrote:On January 01 2012 00:12 Vetrocide wrote: drinking alcohol and drugs can often be just a part of growing up. You try things you haven't done before and in most cases kids learn their own limits and they become more adult. Weird comparing but you could compare it to bullying, in some cases yes, someone end up with suicide or whatnot, but the majority actually become stronger people after they have been bullied. Yeah some kids end up doing drugs for the rest of their life and drinking way too much alcohol, but I think the majority just becomes more adult and learns their own limits and they can look back upon their actions knowing its wrong. Sometimes its required for people to experience something before they know it's wrong. they only need to know that drugs are bad for them and never should have tried it, bad examples facepalm, some drugs arent actually that bad, weed for instance has absolutely no reason for being illegal, the main reason "drugs are bad" is due to the potential for addiction as well as adverse side effects, or hallucinogens which basically take away your sane decision making...if you follow by the legal system then drugs are horrible for you by nature and anything legal cant possibly be bad for you legal: alcohol, tobacco, perscription drugs alcohol and tobacco are known to cause diseases and injure who people are with their usage, they are also addictive yet they are perfectly legal, and as for perscription drugs...just read the side effects before you take anything there are some messed up side effects with some of these legal drugs :/ illegal: weed, cocaine, heroin, hallucinogens cocaine and heroin are quite detrimental to health and are addictive, so its understandable why they are illegal, and hallucinogens cause people to act out very irrationally quite often creating a danger for themselves and others, so that makes sense weed on the other hand does not make sense on this list, as it has been proven to be healthier than even the legal drugs such as alcohol/tobacco (im not gonna say its perfect but its nowhere near as bad esp w/the dosage difference that you take of each (you smoke more tobacco/drink more alcohol)) the main reason this is illegal is due to a stigma created by tobacco companies to get rid of competition for their product...thinking for yourself weed really isnt that bad so, my list: never smoke tobacco, its just bad for you dont take perscription drugs without acknowledging how they can fuck you up drink sparingly and not for the purpose of getting wasted (you save a TON of money this way too) also never drink&drive its retarded and you will hurt someone... weed is fine, sadly its illegal which is an inconvenience and an annoyance, also dont hotbox its retarded while im on laws i disagree with...fuck speed limits edit: wow forgot cocaine, heroin, hallucinogens stay away from shit thats either super addictive or you arent sure what it is....if you really want to try it, research into it and figure out what it is and what it can do to you before you do it also hallucinogens are fine only if you have yourself set up in a way where you cant possibly hurt anyone (in other words dont bother unless you wanna lock yourself up or something) i was only referrring to the drugs that have bad effects on your health, if they're livng fine as they are, they prob don't need to know about the existence of drugs
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On January 01 2012 01:49 brachester wrote:Show nested quote +On January 01 2012 01:44 unit wrote:On January 01 2012 00:44 brachester wrote:On January 01 2012 00:12 Vetrocide wrote: drinking alcohol and drugs can often be just a part of growing up. You try things you haven't done before and in most cases kids learn their own limits and they become more adult. Weird comparing but you could compare it to bullying, in some cases yes, someone end up with suicide or whatnot, but the majority actually become stronger people after they have been bullied. Yeah some kids end up doing drugs for the rest of their life and drinking way too much alcohol, but I think the majority just becomes more adult and learns their own limits and they can look back upon their actions knowing its wrong. Sometimes its required for people to experience something before they know it's wrong. they only need to know that drugs are bad for them and never should have tried it, bad examples facepalm, some drugs arent actually that bad, weed for instance has absolutely no reason for being illegal, the main reason "drugs are bad" is due to the potential for addiction as well as adverse side effects, or hallucinogens which basically take away your sane decision making...if you follow by the legal system then drugs are horrible for you by nature and anything legal cant possibly be bad for you legal: alcohol, tobacco, perscription drugs alcohol and tobacco are known to cause diseases and injure who people are with their usage, they are also addictive yet they are perfectly legal, and as for perscription drugs...just read the side effects before you take anything there are some messed up side effects with some of these legal drugs :/ illegal: weed, cocaine, heroin, hallucinogens cocaine and heroin are quite detrimental to health and are addictive, so its understandable why they are illegal, and hallucinogens cause people to act out very irrationally quite often creating a danger for themselves and others, so that makes sense weed on the other hand does not make sense on this list, as it has been proven to be healthier than even the legal drugs such as alcohol/tobacco (im not gonna say its perfect but its nowhere near as bad esp w/the dosage difference that you take of each (you smoke more tobacco/drink more alcohol)) the main reason this is illegal is due to a stigma created by tobacco companies to get rid of competition for their product...thinking for yourself weed really isnt that bad so, my list: never smoke tobacco, its just bad for you dont take perscription drugs without acknowledging how they can fuck you up drink sparingly and not for the purpose of getting wasted (you save a TON of money this way too) also never drink&drive its retarded and you will hurt someone... weed is fine, sadly its illegal which is an inconvenience and an annoyance, also dont hotbox its retarded while im on laws i disagree with...fuck speed limits edit: wow forgot cocaine, heroin, hallucinogens stay away from shit thats either super addictive or you arent sure what it is....if you really want to try it, research into it and figure out what it is and what it can do to you before you do it also hallucinogens are fine only if you have yourself set up in a way where you cant possibly hurt anyone (in other words dont bother unless you wanna lock yourself up or something) i was only referrring to the drugs that have bad effects on your health, if they're livng fine as they are, they prob don't need to know about the existence of drugs
i can see your point now before i thought it was purely "law abiding citizen" approach, but this is the same with numerous things other than drugs, ignorance truly is bliss sometimes
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In my 17yr old experience. People drink because it's the culture, everybody does it. Why not yourself? I myself don't drink. The negative effects off alcohol are really a turn-off for me. I'm not going to slow down the growth of my brain so I can drink stuff I hate the taste from. Nobody from my friends care that I don't drink even tho they all do, but I have pretty mature friends. Also I don't see why it makes going out any more fun, but maybe a drinker can enlighten me why it is ^^
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I totally agree with this. Our generation is such shit imo I suspect it to be the fault of the media/music etc. but it's really hard to tell. Hell, if you listen to pop music it's all about having sex, drugs, partying and drinking, honestly...WTF? That seems to be the biggest influence that I can find. As for talking about porn and such; I think our culture has become a lot more open and as a result its becoming socially acceptable to talk about those things once taboo.
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Ah, the neverending illusion that "we" are special: especially good, or especially bad.
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On January 01 2012 01:01 Pawsom wrote: You sound really, really worried about other people. Do your thing; make your money, accomplish your goals, etc etc. If the people that surround you are idiots, it doesn't really affect you, if anything it should make it easier for you to thrive and outshine them. Worry about yourself a bit!
And you don't realize it right now, but you are living a very sheletered life. Having a drink or joking about porn are such insignificant things that everyone does, they really shouldn't irk you. If its not your thing, don't do it, but quit being so judgy
this, dude. You are only hearing bits and pieces of other people's conversations and judging them for it.
Just remember the only thing that never gets old, matter how old you are: judging the world by an arbitrary set of values because it's the only way to see yourself as a winner.
Go easy on other people, don't drag a whole generation down because of people you barely know.
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On January 01 2012 00:44 brachester wrote:Show nested quote +On January 01 2012 00:12 Vetrocide wrote: drinking alcohol and drugs can often be just a part of growing up. You try things you haven't done before and in most cases kids learn their own limits and they become more adult. Weird comparing but you could compare it to bullying, in some cases yes, someone end up with suicide or whatnot, but the majority actually become stronger people after they have been bullied. Yeah some kids end up doing drugs for the rest of their life and drinking way too much alcohol, but I think the majority just becomes more adult and learns their own limits and they can look back upon their actions knowing its wrong. Sometimes its required for people to experience something before they know it's wrong. they only need to know that drugs are bad for them and never should have tried it, bad examples
cause you're one-liner response with with good examples is so constructive
as i said, some kids need to try it out to know its bad for them. telling a kid ''do not do drugs'' can often lead kids to want to try drugs even more becomes they know it's not allowed.
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Think you're hanging out the wrong crowd. What's great about university is that you can surround yourself with people like you and not have to deal with the rest.
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On December 31 2011 21:24 RogerX wrote:Title is really stupid lol; should be something more like students and their negative behavior or something like that (Someone suggest me a better title, head dead its 1 in the morning )Hey guys; sorry for writing a depressing blog on new years (For NZ, YEAH FELLOW KIWIS; HAPPY NEW YEARS) but this has been on my mind so much recently as a high school student, i've had this topic haunt me for months now. (Not sure if this belongs in blogs) This blog will be short. So i'm 17 years old and I want to discuss the negative things that majority of students that I know in my school are doing, to be more specific; underaged drinking, drugs and sexual references. I'll write my personal feelings and thoughts for each one. I'm sorry if anyone got offended for this this is just my personal opinions. This is a rant (Warning)After my first year of college, I have started to recognise that people were drinking alcohol. (This is at 14 years old) How is this possible? What kind of unresponsible parents/store clerks sell these things to teenagers? I just don't understand it. There are few negative effects of drinking and drinking at a young age its just worse (Drink driving, irresponsible behavior towards others and their environment, and maybe even breaking a few laws) I want to know the psychological explanation onto why teenagers are doing this. I know that smoking used to be the "cool" thing back then so has that been changed to alcohol? It doesn't even taste that good at this age. And I seem to detest anyone drinking as a teenager (Less than the legal age limit) without clear explanations. Another one are drugs and smoking. Okay, this one I kind of understand; maybe its to release stress? I'm actually really not sure about this one. Okay, actually; i'll say its okay for weed although I will never do it as there is no proven real consequence to it. Smoking though... Why? This is worse than beer, this literally shortens your life and puts you at a risk of even getting cancer. Sexual and inappropriate references; okay this one is for the children at ELEMENTARY school. What the fuck? As a local convinent store worker I take upon a lot of elementary school students after school (Theres a school nearby) Unavoidably I hear their conversations and some of them goes like this; "Saw that hot ass chick on that other road" "YEAH" "Hey we have a fucking good tv" I can't help but want to actually hit them some manners and common sense, lol. What has the generation become? What has children become exposed to? In my generations I never knew ANYONE that knows even a single swear word, we pretty much spoke about pokemon and played basketball on the court (Good times ^-^) One thats really weird is that some of my peers and im sure other students as well talks about porn. What? Its just embarrassing to even listen to and in my life I will never ever discuss the issue. As a parent for some of you, are you aware of your children doing this and how do you feel about them? We are the future, but are we being guided wrongly? Sigh sorry guys; I just wanted to clear some of this out of my head. Changelog + Show Spoiler +None yet, no real edits or proofread done because I lazy
You're too tightly wound. You'll end up hating everybody for every little thing if you keep this attitude up. You don't even have your facts right either. Weed is by far the worst drug to be taking at that age (out of alcohol, weed and nicotine) since it is known to hinder the development of the brain to some degree. Nicotine is pointless, and alcohol can be positive or negative depending on how you treat it.
Teenage guys are horny. The ones that don't look at porn are still masturbating and the ones that don't talk about good looking girls are still thinking it. Maybe you don't masturbate (yet), but you sure as hell look at girls and assess their looks. It's impossible not to.
Swear words are just words. Language is constantly evolving and as a result of that the acceptability of certain words will change too. Some of the words you use which you think are okay were probably unacceptable 50 or 100 years ago.
Most of this stuff you will either learn to accept or you'll continue avoiding, but even if you do avoid it just be aware that the fact that a person enjoys an activity which you don't, or says things which you wouldn't doesn't make that person bad. They're just different. A lot of the teachers at your school probably drank, swore and smoked at some point. Yet here they are, decades later and extremely valuable members of society.
Long story short, loosen up man.
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On January 01 2012 20:15 Swede wrote: Weed is by far the worst drug to be taking at that age (out of alcohol, weed and nicotine) since it is known to hinder the development of the brain to some degree. Nicotine is pointless, and alcohol can be positive or negative depending on how you treat it.
I'd like to see a scientific paper on this. "Weed kills braincells" is an unproven myth while the dangers of alcohol and tobacco components are accepted and known. Where did you see that weed is the worst?
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Smoking though... Why? This is worse than beer, this literally shortens your life and puts you at a risk of even getting cancer.
So does McDonalds.
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You're too tightly wound. You'll end up hating everybody for every little thing if you keep this attitude up. You don't even have your facts right either. Weed is by far the worst drug to be taking at that age (out of alcohol, weed and nicotine) since it is known to hinder the development of the brain to some degree. Nicotine is pointless, and alcohol can be positive or negative depending on how you treat it.
You got your facts completely wrong. Alcohol is definitely the worst for kids that age, it has proven detrimental effects on the brain one of wich is stopping growth of the brain. I don't think there is any research out there that suggests weed does the same.
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On January 02 2012 03:43 Kukaracha wrote:Show nested quote +On January 01 2012 20:15 Swede wrote: Weed is by far the worst drug to be taking at that age (out of alcohol, weed and nicotine) since it is known to hinder the development of the brain to some degree. Nicotine is pointless, and alcohol can be positive or negative depending on how you treat it. I'd like to see a scientific paper on this. "Weed kills braincells" is an unproven myth while the dangers of alcohol and tobacco components are accepted and known. Where did you see that weed is the worst?
I don't have the exact paper on hand, but a PhD holding psych lecturer told me that marijuana has negative effects on the developing brain - note that I'm only talking about the developing brain and I'm only saying it's the worst of the three during that time, although I think alcohol and marijuana are similarly bad. No offense, but I trust him more than any of the overly-zealous defenders of weed on the internet, especially since he was willing to admit that marijuana is relatively innocuous besides that and a few other things.
Anyway, a quick Google shows a lot of results on marijuana and the developing brain, but rather than paste various links in here and take the OP far off topic I'll let you look into it if you're interested.
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It's not about over-zealous defenders of cannabis, haven't seen any here. But about the absurdity of putting marijuana use before alcohol and nicotine as a dangerous substance for the developing brain.
Alcohol consumption for infants was common in certain areas, and studies have underlined how devastating it was, leading not to slight and hardly noticeable damage, but mental disabilities. Nicotine, aside from the insane addictive effect printed on a young brain, is much more often used in high doses at a very high frequency. More smoke, more lung and throat damage, to say the least.
Weed is the less damaging of those three substances, by far. The fact that it can be damaging alone does not say much since both of the two other drugs are disastrous in regards of physical and mental health.
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On January 02 2012 09:17 Kukaracha wrote: It's not about over-zealous defenders of cannabis, haven't seen any here. But about the absurdity of putting marijuana use before alcohol and nicotine as a dangerous substance for the developing brain.
Alcohol consumption for infants was common in certain areas, and studies have underlined how devastating it was, leading not to slight and hardly noticeable damage, but mental disabilities. Nicotine, aside from the insane addictive effect printed on a young brain, is much more often used in high doses at a very high frequency. More smoke, more lung and throat damage, to say the least.
Weed is the less damaging of those three substances, by far. The fact that it can be damaging alone does not say much since both of the two other drugs are disastrous in regards of physical and mental health.
I'm not talking about marijuana and infants. I'm talking about marijuana and teenagers, since that was the context of the OP.
But to be honest I'm not interested in trying to prove myself right nor prove you wrong. I don't have the time or energy to debate until conclusion whenever somebody disagrees with me on the internet, especially when this particular thread isn't about what we're discussing. I'm perfectly happy to agree to disagree, particularly since you admit that marijuana can be damaging to some degree, which is all I wanted to communicate to the OP in the first place.
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Because they (except swearing) have positive, enjoyable experiences. They can also have negative consequences, but in the end you have to weigh those against the positives.
However, it sounds like you don't dislike such actions purely because of the negative experiences, but because you don't like those people. I wouldn't judge these people because in the end everyone has to assign their own personal values to the benefits and the consequences, you haven't evaluated the positives, and you don't know how other people value them. You can argue high school students don't properly value the negative consequences, but it's much harder to dislike people simply for that reason.
For example, I don't ski or ride motorcycles, because in the long term there's a convergent risk towards incapacitating injuries, and the cost of not being able to be active for a few months is very high to me, and I don't enjoy skiing and riding motorcycles nearly as much as being active in other ways. And obviously I don't dislike people ski or motorcycle, because they probably enjoy it a lot more than I do and don't mind being hurt as much.
Drinking: http://www.theonion.com/articles/new-study-finds-college-binge-drinking-to-be-a-bla,763/ Most of the negative effects are the same for adults (recklessness, alcoholism, developing depression), but overall most adults of rational and sound mind enjoy it enough and can limit potential harm enough that they find it worth doing. You could argue that it's better for people to understand how to drink responsibility, rather than starting to binge drink the moment it's allowed. The main reason underage people shouldn't is because of the risk of harming their developing brain. Again, it really matters how much you value your brain (to my understanding it's not the cognitive parts as much as emotional/anger/depression areas).
Smoking and drugs: Enough people down the road have huge problems quitting, even though they become more aware of the long term damage. I would feel lucky that I don't have a smoking or drug addiction, and hope people who do smoke the best.
Swearing: Swearing is regarded as vulgar. As in it is "classless" and has no place in situations with social graces. Of course if you're not in such a situation, it really doesn't matter and it might be a more succinct way of expressing yourself. If you are unable to function well in a situation that requires social graces, then it's a problem.
And I don't smoke, do drugs, and didn't drink until 21, so my defenses are purely rational. Let people handle their own problems, there's enough problems in life that there's no reason to pile on.
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1. I don't know why you give a shit. 2. Kids really haven't changed, they might be more public about things, but I really don't think kids have changed at all. You're just noticing it now people you're older and are starting to observe people of a younger age.
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Kids being kids, nothing more.
When you're a kid its all about what you have and pretending to be the 'big man', when you really have no idea what that means, so kids will often talk utter shite, my little brother is 14 and some of the conversations I've heard between his friends are hilarious (im 24), but I have no doubt I was the same at his age.
Also kids experiment, I believe there have been studies (too tired to link, find if you want) which showed that teenagers have an impaired ability to react to known consequences, from memory it was something along the lines of, a teenager will know something is stupid, something is bad for them etc but still do it, like driving too fast, smoking, jumping off high places etc They are hard wired to be stupid and reckless, although the reason for that is unknown, it's believed to be a way of pushing people out of comfort zones they develop as kids and helping them be more independent.
What you get at the end is often a well rounded adult though, sure you lose a few on the way but I often meet people who were quite sheltered as kids and they are never as emphatic or understanding towards certain aspects of people or life in general. Some people grow up a little quicker and some might not grow up till they're 30 and its a bit too late, but the overwhelming majority of people will, eventually.
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christ you're tightly wound up
it appears like you're just judging people and saying ignorant things in this blog.just because the kids aren't like you don't mean they're rebels, thugs or outcasts. they're teenagers
have started to recognise that people were drinking alcohol. (This is at 14 years old) How is this possible? What kind of unresponsible parents/store clerks sell these things to teenagers? I just don't understand it.
i think you have to like.. get out of the rock you've been hiding under.
maybe it's just the liberal me speaking but i encourage experimenting as a teenager
the key is to make sure they experiment correctly instead of shielding them.
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Which part of Nz are you in? I recently visited my cousins in Auckland. They have similar problems in their schools. They also like to poke at Maoris a lot. Care to explain more on this?
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