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gullberg
Sweden1301 Posts
On December 13 2011 22:36 TraderSC wrote: yeah, wonder what the guys over at startale/qxg think about this._. My advice to QXG would be to get him some fucking PR training or SOMETHING before he ruins his career even further. | ||
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Lysanias
Netherlands8351 Posts
On December 13 2011 22:23 OMGKEI wrote: Wow I really think the mvp team hates Naniwa. Never took him seriously when he was there and now this. Maybe they had there reasons ? Who knows what's going on there. | ||
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Nadarath
98 Posts
On December 13 2011 22:44 Fred Flintstone wrote: this is what happens when kids like naniwa instead of being punished for their immature behaviour in past events were being praised and essentialy encouraged to continue acting like that, because ''it is good for e-sports'' And why exactly he should be punished ? Did he break any rules ? It is almost comparable to Boxing match when 1 player knows out 2nd one in first 30 seconds of fight. Will you punish him for ending fight to soon ? | ||
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Niazger
Germany41 Posts
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iamthedave
England2814 Posts
On December 13 2011 22:44 Waterflow wrote: They way NaNiwa played @ MLG Providence makes him worthy of playing in both Blizzard Cup and Code S. And if you watched these games that naniwa lost it was extremely close and NaNiwa held on for a really long time. I guess you just hate him and cant stand the fact that he's a very talented player. Actually I think Naniwa's repeated failings in Code A make him very suspect. I think the GSL format is bad for him, and he flourishes in an environment where there isn't as much preparation. It seems like anytime people can look at his style and get ready for it he gets crushed. That's the thing in GSL, if you have a definite style or crutches, people have plenty of time to custom build something to wreck you a la MVP/Stephano. | ||
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Femari
United States2900 Posts
On December 13 2011 22:44 Waterflow wrote: They way NaNiwa played @ MLG Providence makes him worthy of playing in both Blizzard Cup and Code S. And if you watched these games that naniwa lost it was extremely close and NaNiwa held on for a really long time. I guess you just hate him and cant stand the fact that he's a very talented player. Shouldn't it be his play in the GSL be the indicator of whether or not he should be in GSL? I mean GSL isn't MLG. MLG is 3 days. GSL is over a month. He cannot play in GSL because he doesn't come up with diverse strategies to beat his opponent. He is terrible at preparing for his opponents. He's highly talented but he's not good enough to be in GSL with his prep skills. | ||
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Ponchey
Sweden89 Posts
On December 13 2011 22:36 MayorITC wrote: How many of the tournaments you listed include the other "9 best players in the world" from the Blizzard Cup? Maybe you should read my original post. Let me quote it once more for you: "this is backed up by Naniwa's mediocre record in Korea." So you respond by listing a bunch of tournaments where only a handful of Koreans participated (if even that since MLG Dallas had none). let's see... MLG Providence: Leenock Nestea Mvp MC MMA DongRaeGu Hero Homestory Cup 3: MC Stephano TSL 3: Nestea Mvp MC Oh, wait a minute. That's everyone in Blizzard Cup, except Polt! (EDIT: Forgot Hero) | ||
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Slider954
United States342 Posts
On December 13 2011 22:46 Nadarath wrote: And why exactly he should be punished ? Did he break any rules ? It is almost comparable to Boxing match when 1 player knows out 2nd one in first 30 seconds of fight. Will you punish him for ending fight to soon ? WHAT?!? It's not even close to comparable because both fighters actually are trying to WIN THE FIGHT. Nani didn't try, he A-moved his drones and took his hands off the keyboard. No micro, no attempt to keep them alive, he let them die. Not even close to what you said. | ||
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zdfgucker
China594 Posts
On December 13 2011 22:36 KeksX wrote: You deserve a temp ban for this imho, but I'm no mod. Thats it. I'm leaving this thread. It's just so irrational and people won't look at this in any different way. Minds are set up. Good luck with your witch hunt, guys. I tried. Hopefully this will be forgotten within the next few days, like everything else. You've been stubborn all the time and claimed his cheese was not any better than a 6pool or a proxy 2gate so maybe you should not be talking about others being stubborn, especially when Naniwa made it so obvious. As for forgetting about this, people still have not forgotten his BM past. He also embarrassed his new clan so I wouldn't count on this being forgotten anytime soon, it's probably going to have consequences for him. You can kinda pull this off if you have a good reputation and/or do this off-stage in a non-casted game but definitely not with Naniwa's reputation, in Korea, with it being live-casted in front of thousands of watchers, other players and casters. This will not be forgotten quickly for quite a few people. | ||
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Niazger
Germany41 Posts
On December 13 2011 22:46 Nadarath wrote: And why exactly he should be punished ? Did he break any rules ? It is almost comparable to Boxing match when 1 player knows out 2nd one in first 30 seconds of fight. Will you punish him for ending fight to soon ? It's not the same at all. Naniwa chose to basicly forfeit the game. There are sponsors etc. behind him that try to get their team/product out there. He has a responsibility towards those people to do the "job" hes being paid for. I also feel really bad for NesTea, apparently he had been practising till late at night yesterday to be prepared for this match (on his birthday). | ||
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m3deman
United States68 Posts
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Petninja
United States159 Posts
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mrGRAPE
Singapore293 Posts
It seems that the community is so divided about what is acceptable and what is not acceptable when it comes to games like this. Empathy guys, empathy. | ||
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Celadan
Norway471 Posts
On December 13 2011 22:43 Merlimoo wrote: Naniwa is a douchbad. He said he disliked CoL because they value fanbase as much as results. He clearly said that he only cares to win. So fans are useless to him. And he just prove it. He doesn't deserve any of his match until round of 4 to be cast since he does not care about viewership, fans or entertainment. He does not deserve any fan either. Not to mention the lack of sport spirit and fairplay. No excuse for him, he has always been like that. Even if some known people tried to save his public image. I'm more than eager to see him fail in the next tournament to see him quit the game. DR;TL : It's about sport spirit. The proscene lives from viewership, through publicity. Even if I profondly dislike this model entertainment is very important right now. Without going like WWF, this match could have been fun to watch knowning the pride at stake. He's just shown he has none. How can we claim to have a sport-like (esport) game, if we show people behaving like that ? Shame on him. you clearly don't have any idea of what kind of stressing situation it is to play at a LAN tourney...... To loose like that is extremely frustrating and its not exactly like you think straight at Offline events. So since you don't know what you are talking about, so stfu plz?? | ||
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andaylin
United States10830 Posts
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KibbelzNbits
United States14 Posts
If they do, then this was to some, a slap in the face, but to others, a light-hearted joke of a game. I don't think you can really criticize him too much tbh, tho i personally disagree with his choice; I mean come on, it was NesTea's birthday! | ||
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Rustug
1488 Posts
Someone really needs to find you Naniwa a PR person. Just a someone to inform him what you can and cannot do if you want to become a marketable brand and make some money. | ||
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Waterflow
Sweden1550 Posts
On December 13 2011 22:49 zdfgucker wrote: You've been stubborn all the time and claimed his cheese was not any better than a 6pool or a proxy 2gate so maybe you should not be talking about others being stubborn, especially when Naniwa made it so obvious. As for forgetting about this, people still have not forgotten his BM past. He also embarrassed his new clan so I wouldn't count on this being forgotten anytime soon, it's probably going to have consequences for him. You can kinda pull this off if you have a good reputation and/or do this off-stage in a non-casted game but definitely not with Naniwa's reputation, in Korea, with it being live-casted in front of thousands of watchers, other players and casters. This will not be forgotten quickly for quite a few people. oh dear god...... oooooooh it's so terrible..... naniwa did a probe rush.... HE DESERVES DEATH PENALTY INFRONT OF A HUGE CROWD IN SEOUL. oh jesus....... some people just likes to hate on anything they can get their hands on. People here should take a look at themselves also and think about how they act as persons. | ||
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synaptik
Canada644 Posts
On December 13 2011 22:43 Merlimoo wrote: Naniwa is a douchbad. He said he disliked CoL because they value fanbase as much as results. He clearly said that he only cares to win. So fans are useless to him. And he just prove it. He doesn't deserve any of his match until round of 4 to be cast since he does not care about viewership, fans or entertainment. He does not deserve any fan either. Not to mention the lack of sport spirit and fairplay. No excuse for him, he has always been like that. Even if some known people tried to save his public image. I'm more than eager to see him fail in the next tournament to see him quit the game. DR;TL : It's about sport spirit. The proscene lives from viewership, through publicity. Even if I profondly dislike this model entertainment is very important right now. Without going like WWF, this match could have been fun to watch knowning the pride at stake. He's just shown he has none. How can we claim to have a sport-like (esport) game, if we show people behaving like that ? Shame on him. very well put. some people just dont listen to reason. | ||
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Vond
Sweden145 Posts
On December 13 2011 22:49 Slider954 wrote: WHAT?!? It's not even close to comparable because both fighters actually are trying to WIN THE FIGHT. Nani didn't try, he A-moved his drones and took his hands off the keyboard. No micro, no attempt to keep them alive, he let them die. Not even close to what you said. This. It was a disgrace and I'm furious about the lack of respect shown towards everyone who was looking forward to an entertaining game - it deffo could've been since neither of them had anything to lose. | ||
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