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TraderSC
Profile Joined October 2011
Sweden7 Posts
December 13 2011 13:36 GMT
#361
On December 13 2011 22:35 nvs. wrote:
Sounds like he lost a lot of respect in Korea.


yeah, wonder what the guys over at startale/qxg think about this._.
KeksX
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Germany3634 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-13 13:38:18
December 13 2011 13:36 GMT
#362
On December 13 2011 22:35 synaptik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2011 22:30 kalismist wrote:
This is HILLARIOUS! You all know it and love it! I dont think you should compare him with Zlatan. Zlatan is a cheater with no manner, no values, greedy, selfish, stupid son of a bitch.


so basically naniwa just needs to cheat to cement the comparison.

You deserve a temp ban for this imho, but I'm no mod.

Thats it. I'm leaving this thread. It's just so irrational and people won't look at this in any different way. Minds are set up. Good luck with your witch hunt, guys. I tried.

Hopefully this will be forgotten within the next few days, like everything else.
nforce
Profile Joined March 2010
Bulgaria116 Posts
December 13 2011 13:37 GMT
#363
So many people talk about respect, maturity and professionalism yet fail to show any of it themselves. Hypocrites much?
crowbar
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden21 Posts
December 13 2011 13:38 GMT
#364
Naniwa will always be Naniwa and idra will always be idra get used and over it butthurt maggots )))
Anmity
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden12 Posts
December 13 2011 13:38 GMT
#365
If you want to complain, go complain to GOM for even deciding to play that game. Not saying NaNiWa did the correct thing, but the game was so entirely pointless that it's stupid.
Insurrectionist
Profile Joined February 2011
Norway141 Posts
December 13 2011 13:38 GMT
#366
On December 13 2011 22:21 MayorITC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2011 22:12 KeksX wrote:
On December 13 2011 22:11 MayorITC wrote:
On December 13 2011 22:05 careohx wrote:
"@MVPGuineapig: There's so many people who can't compete in leagues even if they want to.. are you mocking them?"
Those players should get better and qualify.


They didn't qualify because they lacked the finances/opportunities to participate in all the tournaments Naniwa has. This is backed up by Naniwa's mediocre record in Korea, showing that Naniwa isn't worthy of a tournament that's supposed to have the best 10 players in the world.

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2011_MLG_Global_Invitational

You look like you're desperately trying to justify your overreaction. Just chill. Nobody will judge you, I mean you didn't worker rush, did you?


Great! One tournament where he doesn't win!

Now let me cite another tournament. It's called the Blizzard Cup (0-4). Oh wait, let me cite another tournament. Code A GSL August (0-2). And yet another tournament... Code A October (0-2). And Code A November (0-2).

I don't see your point. He lost a whole lot of tournaments and then he won one (and against some of the toughest competition he's faced). Meanwhile the players who didn't qualify lost a whole lot of tournaments and didn't win any at all.
Hubris
Profile Joined November 2010
United States113 Posts
December 13 2011 13:39 GMT
#367
I don't know what Naniwa is thinking... It's like he gets a chance to further himself in the eyes of fans and just pisses it away every time. Good job on Col getting rid of him before they started to look bad.
Wut?
Waterflow
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden1550 Posts
December 13 2011 13:40 GMT
#368
On December 13 2011 22:37 nforce wrote:
So many people talk about respect, maturity and professionalism yet fail to show any of it themselves. Hypocrites much?


+1 my friend.
Nekovivie
Profile Joined October 2011
United Kingdom2599 Posts
December 13 2011 13:41 GMT
#369
Professional suicide.
If you are not supporting K-Pop you are hurting E-Sports.
Femari
Profile Joined June 2011
United States2900 Posts
December 13 2011 13:41 GMT
#370
On December 13 2011 22:38 Insurrectionist wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2011 22:21 MayorITC wrote:
On December 13 2011 22:12 KeksX wrote:
On December 13 2011 22:11 MayorITC wrote:
On December 13 2011 22:05 careohx wrote:
"@MVPGuineapig: There's so many people who can't compete in leagues even if they want to.. are you mocking them?"
Those players should get better and qualify.


They didn't qualify because they lacked the finances/opportunities to participate in all the tournaments Naniwa has. This is backed up by Naniwa's mediocre record in Korea, showing that Naniwa isn't worthy of a tournament that's supposed to have the best 10 players in the world.

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2011_MLG_Global_Invitational

You look like you're desperately trying to justify your overreaction. Just chill. Nobody will judge you, I mean you didn't worker rush, did you?


Great! One tournament where he doesn't win!

Now let me cite another tournament. It's called the Blizzard Cup (0-4). Oh wait, let me cite another tournament. Code A GSL August (0-2). And yet another tournament... Code A October (0-2). And Code A November (0-2).

I don't see your point. He lost a whole lot of tournaments and then he won one (and against some of the toughest competition he's faced). Meanwhile the players who didn't qualify lost a whole lot of tournaments and didn't win any at all.

He fails when he has to prepare. He is easily dissected.


On December 13 2011 22:37 nforce wrote:
So many people talk about respect, maturity and professionalism yet fail to show any of it themselves. Hypocrites much?

There is nothing to respect other than his SC2 skills.
Mvp | BoxeR | MarineKing | MC | viOlet | Scarlett | Flash | Bisu | XellOs | Sea | Fantasy | By.Sun
gregnog
Profile Joined December 2010
United States289 Posts
December 13 2011 13:41 GMT
#371
On December 13 2011 22:35 jyisvip wrote:
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On December 13 2011 21:53 Kappa09 wrote:
I don't get the attitude of the people here. Try to make a real world comparison to main stream sports just to see how wrong Naniwa was. How would you feel if the Green Bay Packers were 0-12 (obviously not true, so can't offend anyone) in the season and obviously had no chance of making the playoffs/superbowl, and then they went on to purposely lose their remaining games by sitting on the sidelines or just screwing around in front of thousands of live spectators and millions of spectators watching on television. Their fans and football fans alike would be absolutely outraged and this would be completely unacceptable. Do you think it's fair for everyone involved with the team or game that they weren't shown a true game like they were promised?

There is no difference between what Naniwa did and the analogy. It doesn't matter that the game meant nothing. Naniwa still spat in all of our faces and everyone involved with the Blizzard Cup and basically said he doesn't give a fuck about anyone except for himself and the money/championships he is trying to win.

I can't believe some of you actually find this action acceptable, and it shows that we are still very far from being considered a true spectator sport.


Well said. Perfectly on point.


I guess neither of you have heard of the Pro Bowl for the NFL or the All Star game for MLB... they are endlessly made fun of. Nobody even considers them a game. Many top players don't even participate for all kinds of reasons. The ones that do never push them self. They are literally doing exactly what you mentioned, "sitting on the sidelines" or "screwing around". They bring their family's and video cameras. You can see them getting autographs from other players... These "entertainment" games are a joke to the typical fan. This is what happens when you have a competitive sport and then throw in the occasional meaningless game.
Treziel
Profile Joined October 2010
United Kingdom123 Posts
December 13 2011 13:42 GMT
#372
On December 13 2011 22:32 TheSubtleArt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2011 22:18 Treziel wrote:
Honestly the reaction from so many people trying to justify this kind of behaviour shows why no foreigners can compete with Koreans. I've never been so angry watching any professional sport before. Obviously most of the fan base are immature idiots who don't take it seriously whatsoever so look: if you think Naniwa's actions here should just be let go or just be passed off as a 'a bit of fun' then you are wrong, just flat out wrong. GOM should remove his S class and ban him from participating for at least 1 season. If a Korean had done this, I am almost positive that even if GOM didn't take action, they would have been kicked out of their team and blacklisted and no other team would ever touch them again no matter how good they are, it is so fucking disrespectful to everyone.

If one Sc2 player not opting to play a completely meaningless match makes you this angry I'd hate to see how you deal with real world problems O_O


I said I've never been this angry watching a professional sport before. I'm only a little bit angry, I don't tend to get riled up over stuff that doesn't affect me much, but this kind of thing actually does affect me, because I want to see more foreigners in Korea competing with the best (and I want to see eSports get more legitimacy in the west also) and actions like this make both of these scenarios more unlikely - why bother inviting foreign players when this is how they act. The reason I'd like to see GOM take action is not anything I have against Naniwa (although I'm certainly not a fan), it's to stop future foreign players who go over to Korea embarassing the foreign community. Going 0-3 against the best in the world is not embarassing, throwing a game against one of the top Korean zergs because you're angry that you lost absolutely is.
Nadarath
Profile Joined July 2011
98 Posts
December 13 2011 13:42 GMT
#373
Big LOL at everyone who thinks Koreans are so pure and respectful. I gues you dont know about them so much.
And comments from FXO Choya and MVP twitter are same unprofessional as Naniwa.
Naniwa could do anything he wanted in that game as long as he didnt break any official rules.
Grow up SC2 community and stop trying to act like you are more holy than Pope.
Nestea practiced so hard yet he loses his 3 games i guess it didn't do so good for him after all.
Turbogangsta
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Australia319 Posts
December 13 2011 13:43 GMT
#374
im gona do this if im ever pro in a tournament im already out of and its a pointless match just to piss u all off
Esports is killing Esports.
synaptik
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada644 Posts
December 13 2011 13:43 GMT
#375
On December 13 2011 22:36 KeksX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2011 22:35 synaptik wrote:
On December 13 2011 22:30 kalismist wrote:
This is HILLARIOUS! You all know it and love it! I dont think you should compare him with Zlatan. Zlatan is a cheater with no manner, no values, greedy, selfish, stupid son of a bitch.


so basically naniwa just needs to cheat to cement the comparison.

You deserve a temp ban for this imho, but I'm no mod.

Thats it. I'm leaving this thread. It's just so irrational and people won't look at this in any different way. Minds are set up. Good luck with your witch hunt, guys. I tried.

Hopefully this will be forgotten within the next few days, like everything else.


this is exactly how i feel when i see all these posts defending such unprofessionalism
Pulimuli
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Sweden2766 Posts
December 13 2011 13:43 GMT
#376
On December 13 2011 22:32 TheSubtleArt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2011 22:18 Treziel wrote:
Honestly the reaction from so many people trying to justify this kind of behaviour shows why no foreigners can compete with Koreans. I've never been so angry watching any professional sport before. Obviously most of the fan base are immature idiots who don't take it seriously whatsoever so look: if you think Naniwa's actions here should just be let go or just be passed off as a 'a bit of fun' then you are wrong, just flat out wrong. GOM should remove his S class and ban him from participating for at least 1 season. If a Korean had done this, I am almost positive that even if GOM didn't take action, they would have been kicked out of their team and blacklisted and no other team would ever touch them again no matter how good they are, it is so fucking disrespectful to everyone.

If one Sc2 player not opting to play a completely meaningless match makes you this angry I'd hate to see how you deal with real world problems O_O


exactly what i was thinking
Merlimoo
Profile Joined January 2011
France192 Posts
December 13 2011 13:43 GMT
#377
Naniwa is a douchbad. He said he disliked CoL because they value fanbase as much as results. He clearly said that he only cares to win. So fans are useless to him. And he just prove it.
He doesn't deserve any of his match until round of 4 to be cast since he does not care about viewership, fans or entertainment.
He does not deserve any fan either.

Not to mention the lack of sport spirit and fairplay.
No excuse for him, he has always been like that. Even if some known people tried to save his public image.

I'm more than eager to see him fail in the next tournament to see him quit the game.

DR;TL : It's about sport spirit. The proscene lives from viewership, through publicity. Even if I profondly dislike this model entertainment is very important right now. Without going like WWF, this match could have been fun to watch knowning the pride at stake. He's just shown he has none. How can we claim to have a sport-like (esport) game, if we show people behaving like that ? Shame on him.
Day[9] made me do it.
Waterflow
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden1550 Posts
December 13 2011 13:44 GMT
#378
On December 13 2011 22:36 MayorITC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2011 22:27 Ponchey wrote:
On December 13 2011 22:21 MayorITC wrote:
On December 13 2011 22:12 KeksX wrote:
On December 13 2011 22:11 MayorITC wrote:
On December 13 2011 22:05 careohx wrote:
"@MVPGuineapig: There's so many people who can't compete in leagues even if they want to.. are you mocking them?"
Those players should get better and qualify.


They didn't qualify because they lacked the finances/opportunities to participate in all the tournaments Naniwa has. This is backed up by Naniwa's mediocre record in Korea, showing that Naniwa isn't worthy of a tournament that's supposed to have the best 10 players in the world.

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2011_MLG_Global_Invitational

You look like you're desperately trying to justify your overreaction. Just chill. Nobody will judge you, I mean you didn't worker rush, did you?


Great! One tournament where he doesn't win!

Now let me cite another tournament. It's called the Blizzard Cup (0-4). Oh wait, let me cite another tournament. Code A GSL August (0-2). And yet another tournament... Code A October (0-2). And Code A November (0-2).


MLG Dallas (24-2)
MLG Providence - 2nd
TSL 3 - 2nd
Blizzcon EU invitational - 2nd
Homestory cup 2 & 3 - 2nd/2nd

And as far as being "worhty" of being in this tournament; yes, the results said 0-3 before the Nestea match, but those were hard earned wins for his opponents, EVEN when they were completely unscouted build order win cheeses.


How many of the tournaments you listed include the other "9 best players in the world" from the Blizzard Cup? Maybe you should read my original post. Let me quote it once more for you: "this is backed up by Naniwa's mediocre record in Korea." So you respond by listing a bunch of tournaments where only a handful of Koreans participated (if even that since MLG Dallas had none).


They way NaNiwa played @ MLG Providence makes him worthy of playing in both Blizzard Cup and Code S. And if you watched these games that naniwa lost it was extremely close and NaNiwa held on for a really long time.

I guess you just hate him and cant stand the fact that he's a very talented player.
Fred Flintstone
Profile Joined December 2011
Germany73 Posts
December 13 2011 13:44 GMT
#379
this is what happens when kids like naniwa instead of being punished for their immature behaviour in past events were being praised and essentialy encouraged to continue acting like that, because ''it is good for e-sports''
Yabba dabba doo!
Waterflow
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden1550 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-13 13:47:04
December 13 2011 13:45 GMT
#380
On December 13 2011 22:43 Merlimoo wrote:
Naniwa is a douchbad. He said he disliked CoL because they value fanbase as much as results. He clearly said that he only cares to win. So fans are useless to him. And he just prove it.
He doesn't deserve any of his match until round of 4 to be cast since he does not care about viewership, fans or entertainment.
He does not deserve any fan either.

Not to mention the lack of sport spirit and fairplay.
No excuse for him, he has always been like that. Even if some known people tried to save his public image.

I'm more than eager to see him fail in the next tournament to see him quit the game.

DR;TL : It's about sport spirit. The proscene lives from viewership, through publicity. Even if I profondly dislike this model entertainment is very important right now. Without going like WWF, this match could have been fun to watch knowning the pride at stake. He's just shown he has none. How can we claim to have a sport-like (esport) game, if we show people behaving like that ? Shame on him.


He never ever said that fans are useless to him. You fucking liar. Don't come here and spread lies.

You are exactly the kind of person i can imagine living in 1500-century screaming "burn that witch". Grow the fuck up.

User was temp banned for this post.
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