EPTOn December 13 2011 22:35 nvs. wrote:
Sounds like he lost a lot of respect in Korea.
Sounds like he lost a lot of respect in Korea.
yeah, wonder what the guys over at startale/qxg think about this._.
Nestea vs Naniwa Korean Twitterstorm - Page 19
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TraderSC
Sweden7 Posts
yeah, wonder what the guys over at startale/qxg think about this._. | ||
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KeksX
Germany3634 Posts
On December 13 2011 22:35 synaptik wrote: so basically naniwa just needs to cheat to cement the comparison. You deserve a temp ban for this imho, but I'm no mod. Thats it. I'm leaving this thread. It's just so irrational and people won't look at this in any different way. Minds are set up. Good luck with your witch hunt, guys. I tried. Hopefully this will be forgotten within the next few days, like everything else. | ||
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nforce
Bulgaria116 Posts
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crowbar
Sweden21 Posts
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Anmity
Sweden12 Posts
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Insurrectionist
Norway141 Posts
On December 13 2011 22:21 MayorITC wrote: Great! One tournament where he doesn't win! Now let me cite another tournament. It's called the Blizzard Cup (0-4). Oh wait, let me cite another tournament. Code A GSL August (0-2). And yet another tournament... Code A October (0-2). And Code A November (0-2). I don't see your point. He lost a whole lot of tournaments and then he won one (and against some of the toughest competition he's faced). Meanwhile the players who didn't qualify lost a whole lot of tournaments and didn't win any at all. | ||
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Hubris
United States113 Posts
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Waterflow
Sweden1550 Posts
On December 13 2011 22:37 nforce wrote: So many people talk about respect, maturity and professionalism yet fail to show any of it themselves. Hypocrites much? +1 my friend. | ||
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Nekovivie
United Kingdom2599 Posts
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Femari
United States2900 Posts
On December 13 2011 22:38 Insurrectionist wrote: I don't see your point. He lost a whole lot of tournaments and then he won one (and against some of the toughest competition he's faced). Meanwhile the players who didn't qualify lost a whole lot of tournaments and didn't win any at all. He fails when he has to prepare. He is easily dissected. On December 13 2011 22:37 nforce wrote: So many people talk about respect, maturity and professionalism yet fail to show any of it themselves. Hypocrites much? There is nothing to respect other than his SC2 skills. | ||
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gregnog
United States289 Posts
I guess neither of you have heard of the Pro Bowl for the NFL or the All Star game for MLB... they are endlessly made fun of. Nobody even considers them a game. Many top players don't even participate for all kinds of reasons. The ones that do never push them self. They are literally doing exactly what you mentioned, "sitting on the sidelines" or "screwing around". They bring their family's and video cameras. You can see them getting autographs from other players... These "entertainment" games are a joke to the typical fan. This is what happens when you have a competitive sport and then throw in the occasional meaningless game. | ||
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Treziel
United Kingdom123 Posts
On December 13 2011 22:32 TheSubtleArt wrote: If one Sc2 player not opting to play a completely meaningless match makes you this angry I'd hate to see how you deal with real world problems O_O I said I've never been this angry watching a professional sport before. I'm only a little bit angry, I don't tend to get riled up over stuff that doesn't affect me much, but this kind of thing actually does affect me, because I want to see more foreigners in Korea competing with the best (and I want to see eSports get more legitimacy in the west also) and actions like this make both of these scenarios more unlikely - why bother inviting foreign players when this is how they act. The reason I'd like to see GOM take action is not anything I have against Naniwa (although I'm certainly not a fan), it's to stop future foreign players who go over to Korea embarassing the foreign community. Going 0-3 against the best in the world is not embarassing, throwing a game against one of the top Korean zergs because you're angry that you lost absolutely is. | ||
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Nadarath
98 Posts
And comments from FXO Choya and MVP twitter are same unprofessional as Naniwa. Naniwa could do anything he wanted in that game as long as he didnt break any official rules. Grow up SC2 community and stop trying to act like you are more holy than Pope. Nestea practiced so hard yet he loses his 3 games i guess it didn't do so good for him after all. | ||
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Turbogangsta
Australia319 Posts
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synaptik
Canada644 Posts
On December 13 2011 22:36 KeksX wrote: You deserve a temp ban for this imho, but I'm no mod. Thats it. I'm leaving this thread. It's just so irrational and people won't look at this in any different way. Minds are set up. Good luck with your witch hunt, guys. I tried. Hopefully this will be forgotten within the next few days, like everything else. this is exactly how i feel when i see all these posts defending such unprofessionalism | ||
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Pulimuli
Sweden2766 Posts
On December 13 2011 22:32 TheSubtleArt wrote: If one Sc2 player not opting to play a completely meaningless match makes you this angry I'd hate to see how you deal with real world problems O_O exactly what i was thinking | ||
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Merlimoo
France192 Posts
He doesn't deserve any of his match until round of 4 to be cast since he does not care about viewership, fans or entertainment. He does not deserve any fan either. Not to mention the lack of sport spirit and fairplay. No excuse for him, he has always been like that. Even if some known people tried to save his public image. I'm more than eager to see him fail in the next tournament to see him quit the game. DR;TL : It's about sport spirit. The proscene lives from viewership, through publicity. Even if I profondly dislike this model entertainment is very important right now. Without going like WWF, this match could have been fun to watch knowning the pride at stake. He's just shown he has none. How can we claim to have a sport-like (esport) game, if we show people behaving like that ? Shame on him. | ||
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Waterflow
Sweden1550 Posts
On December 13 2011 22:36 MayorITC wrote: How many of the tournaments you listed include the other "9 best players in the world" from the Blizzard Cup? Maybe you should read my original post. Let me quote it once more for you: "this is backed up by Naniwa's mediocre record in Korea." So you respond by listing a bunch of tournaments where only a handful of Koreans participated (if even that since MLG Dallas had none). They way NaNiwa played @ MLG Providence makes him worthy of playing in both Blizzard Cup and Code S. And if you watched these games that naniwa lost it was extremely close and NaNiwa held on for a really long time. I guess you just hate him and cant stand the fact that he's a very talented player. | ||
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Fred Flintstone
Germany73 Posts
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Waterflow
Sweden1550 Posts
On December 13 2011 22:43 Merlimoo wrote: Naniwa is a douchbad. He said he disliked CoL because they value fanbase as much as results. He clearly said that he only cares to win. So fans are useless to him. And he just prove it. He doesn't deserve any of his match until round of 4 to be cast since he does not care about viewership, fans or entertainment. He does not deserve any fan either. Not to mention the lack of sport spirit and fairplay. No excuse for him, he has always been like that. Even if some known people tried to save his public image. I'm more than eager to see him fail in the next tournament to see him quit the game. DR;TL : It's about sport spirit. The proscene lives from viewership, through publicity. Even if I profondly dislike this model entertainment is very important right now. Without going like WWF, this match could have been fun to watch knowning the pride at stake. He's just shown he has none. How can we claim to have a sport-like (esport) game, if we show people behaving like that ? Shame on him. He never ever said that fans are useless to him. You fucking liar. Don't come here and spread lies. You are exactly the kind of person i can imagine living in 1500-century screaming "burn that witch". Grow the fuck up. User was temp banned for this post. | ||
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