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0ne
Spain2464 Posts
On December 13 2011 22:24 Seronei wrote: It wasn't? I seem to remember it being after the announcement of the Code A spot. But ok then. Still 150$. It was not even the finals of an 150$ online tournament, sounds pretty meaningless for me. He is out of the GSL for that. | ||
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MayorITC
Korea (South)798 Posts
On December 13 2011 21:40 ComusLoM wrote: This is the first time I have actually felt like the Korean community don't deserve any respect at all. If it was a Korean losing three times to cheese there would be the same comments but more along the lines of: LOLOLOL STUPID FOREIGNERS CAN'T BEAT US IN REAL GAMES They talk about professionalism while showing none themselves on this issue. Uh, you do Koreans have nothing but the upmost respect for foreigners.... who also show respect. Koreans WORSHIPPED Guillame Patry. They also respect Huk and recognize him as one of the best (if not the best) Protoss players. | ||
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Ponchey
Sweden89 Posts
On December 13 2011 22:21 MayorITC wrote: Great! One tournament where he doesn't win! Now let me cite another tournament. It's called the Blizzard Cup (0-4). Oh wait, let me cite another tournament. Code A GSL August (0-2). And yet another tournament... Code A October (0-2). And Code A November (0-2). MLG Dallas (24-2) MLG Providence - 2nd TSL 3 - 2nd Blizzcon EU invitational - 2nd Homestory cup 2 & 3 - 2nd/2nd And as far as being "worhty" of being in this tournament; yes, the results said 0-3 before the Nestea match, but those were hard earned wins for his opponents, EVEN when they were completely unscouted build order win cheeses. | ||
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synaptik
Canada644 Posts
On December 13 2011 22:21 GMarshal wrote: To be fair its not just the swedish fans, its all the naniwa fanatics, however I imagine that if Naniwa stabbed Nestea on stream the response would look something like this: also, blame GOMTV for not making the booths more secure | ||
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XRuneTH
Vietnam34 Posts
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Dommk
Australia4865 Posts
But what makes this special is where it happened. I'm sure there are a lot of people who poke fun at the pope, I do it sometimes when the opportunity presents it self  but there is a time and a place and you certainly DON'T want to do something like that whilst you are in the middle of the Sistine Chapel around people who would get offended by even the smallest off hand joke.I know in MLG there have been games where people have decided the outcome with an actual coin flip, but this didn't happen at MLG, this happened in Korea during an important match It is okay to be angry but it is even more important to use your darn brain. I'm still a fan of Naniwa, but fan support isn't going to get him out of what hes got himself into | ||
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KeksX
Germany3634 Posts
On December 13 2011 22:26 bana wrote: Sry, throwing a game like that is match fixing. He could've just said "I forfeit". Oh wait, he couldn't. | ||
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Blek
Brazil38 Posts
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0ne
Spain2464 Posts
On December 13 2011 22:27 XRuneTH wrote: I think if Coca did something like this in a tournament, he will be kicked out of SlayerS immediately. I think you are right | ||
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Slider954
United States342 Posts
On December 13 2011 22:24 KeksX wrote: He probe rushed. PROBE RUSHED. He didn't matchfix, he didn't hack, he didn't kill somebody, HE A-MOVED his workers! What the heck. This is really, really getting out of hand. He didn't probe rush, he intentionally threw his workers away . He took his hands off the keyboard and let them die, he didn't micro them or try to win at all. He lost on purpose. You keep trying to make it seem like his thought process was, "Well I'm desperate to win at least one game, so I'll try this and see if it works" when it was more along the lines of "I don't give a shit about this, just gonna a-move my drones and let them die so I can get this over with." | ||
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KeksX
Germany3634 Posts
On December 13 2011 22:28 Blek wrote: Take it as the joke it is. Naniwa doesn't deserve all the shit he gets every day, and we don't know his reasoning behind that either. He probably was frustrated about the previous matches and tired. It's pretty obvious that after you lost 3 games and basically all hope and you're still forced to play a game you CAN get quite frustrated. On December 13 2011 22:29 Slider954 wrote: He didn't probe rush, he intentionally threw his workers away . He took his hands off the keyboard and let them die, he didn't micro them or try to win at all. He lost on purpose. You keep trying to make it seem like his thought process was, "Well I'm desperate to win at least one game, so I'll try this and see if it works" when it was more along the lines of "I don't give a shit about this, just gonna a-move my drones and let them die so I can get this over with." Thats not at all what I'm trying to say. What he did was nothing else than just forfeiting. And yea it kinda was a dick move but what the heck, people do it all the time with 6 pools, proxy 2gates and everything. Or they simply just forfeit. Naniwa now took his workers to do that and suddenly he is the worst progamer ever. At least he played WITHIN THE RULES, unlike other pro players who got their pitchforks up against him. | ||
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pulvret
Sweden10 Posts
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Dommk
Australia4865 Posts
On December 13 2011 22:28 Blek wrote: Take it as the joke it is. Naniwa doesn't deserve all the shit he gets every day, and we don't know his reasoning behind that either. He probably was frustrated about the previous matches and tired. I don't think he deserves the self righteous bullshit of the people here, but hes deserves every bit of fury hes getting from the Korean community. | ||
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Cramsy
Australia1100 Posts
On December 13 2011 22:26 ComusLoM wrote: Something IdrA has done at pretty much every MLG but has never received criticism for. The games weren't being televised in the biggest Esports country in the world. He was supporting his team mate. They weren't the center of attention. Proxy 2 gates or something. What he did was just disrespectful to the tournament. | ||
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iamthedave
England2814 Posts
On December 13 2011 22:26 chokke wrote: Wasn't it Zlatan that filmed and got whatever-the-shot-within-16-metre-is-called in a match. I don't consider a games with 5 rax of one base, proxy-stuff, rushed 2-port-banshee and whatever to be good, yet the same guys are gfiving these games. It's just formal bullshit just as whenever a player leaves the team it's the same boring "didn't fit our style, great man, good luck in future" and how every new team is "an experience to broaden my skill as a player and an oppertunity to become better". I don't think calling out the GSL curse in a live interview is just formal stuff. I can't think of any korean players with Naniwa's attitude or anything approaching it. The closest would be some of the top GSL players pulling wacky builds in matches they don't care about, like in the World Championships when Cella tweeted asking the fans what builds they wanted his players to use. They still play out the games and go for it, though. What Naniwa did is just foreign - so to speak - to the entire Korean mentality of SC. | ||
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Omar91
Angola620 Posts
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kalismist
Sweden8 Posts
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Waterflow
Sweden1550 Posts
NaNiwa didn't murder anyone. He just pulled his probes. Just waiting for some moron to say: "omg Sweden is such a bad country with evil people they are so bad mannered yada yada yada". Like a fucking witch hunt. | ||
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dinsim1
67 Posts
On December 13 2011 22:19 jojo311 wrote: "I was insanely frustrated by my bad performance today(Nestea himself) and the opponent did a more insane job" Can we get a better translation on this? This isn't really coherent English... | ||
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TraderSC
Sweden7 Posts
ok, to me naniwa didn't let anyone down but nestea, so if someone should be mad it's him. Since i think he was looking for revenge. Don't really understand why fans and other gamers have a problem with it. | ||
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